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    daneblazer
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    The two post important poker stats

    VPIP & PFR

    If you don't know what they mean, look them up.

    Very basic, but all the difference in the world


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    Yes. Most poker tracker software have this.

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    lol

    poker??

    lol

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    this 2008 or what??

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    Quote Originally Posted by CanuckG View Post
    Yes. Most poker tracker software have this.
    yes...

    and... if you are a pro....you put live players on vpip/pfr too

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    It's very easy to fool players using this type of software, they are inherent suckers. Very easy.


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    Quote Originally Posted by daneblazer View Post
    yes...

    and... if you are a pro....you put live players on vpip/pfr too
    Not enough, you need to know their range and take into consideration how their range changes situationally.

    A top heavy range is very different from a balanced range, a player might be loose against fish but nitty against regs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Gonzo View Post
    Not enough, you need to know their range and take into consideration how their range changes situationally.

    A top heavy range is very different from a balanced range, a player might be loose against fish but nitty against regs.
    I couldn't agree more, very situational.

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    Only thing I know about Poker is every time I see it here at SBR I see that guy Bobby Waves whining about the totals being wrong

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    omg I am on the floor laughing here

    poker was gone 7 years ago

    all the pros broke too

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    omg I am on the floor laughing here

    poker was gone 7 years ago

    all the pros broke too
    You can make a living out of live poker in Vegas or Cali.

    How many people are doing that out of sports?

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    Daner uses a HUD for SBR poker

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    most people in Vegas pal are broke playing daily poker including so called pros

    It is a game of chance as the word Pro goes out the door

    NFL is not a game of chance meaning players..They are PROS because some clown off the street cannot even touch them but in poker an 8th grader can win a poker tourney with 10 other pros in it

    GAME OVER

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    remember when jj was a poker pro? good times...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    most people in Vegas pal are broke playing daily poker including so called pros

    It is a game of chance as the word Pro goes out the door

    NFL is not a game of chance meaning players..They are PROS because some clown off the street cannot even touch them but in poker an 8th grader can win a poker tourney with 10 other pros in it

    GAME OVER
    And Billy Walters could be on the wrong side of a game whilst an 8th grader is on the winner, what kind of result orientated nonsense is this?

    To be a pro you simply need to have a positive hourly expectation that allows you a livable income and put in work.

    I agree, the poker balla is a myth but the grinding cash game pro is not.

    I'm not in the US but I bet horses for a living, and if I was in the US I'd be in Cali playing poker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Gonzo View Post
    And Billy Walters could be on the wrong side of a game whilst an 8th grader is on the winner, what kind of result orientated nonsense is this?

    To be a pro you simply need to have a positive hourly expectation that allows you a livable income and put in work.

    I agree, the poker balla is a myth but the grinding cash game pro is not.

    I'm not in the US but I bet horses for a living, and if I was in the US I'd be in Cali playing poker.
    jj's head is going to fukkin explode like that dude in scanners

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    i'm always doing something else when playing sbr poker so I don't pay attention to other players, but can you imagine if you had a HUD for these games? Literally shooting fish in a barrel, as if it wasn't already...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    most people in Vegas pal are broke playing daily poker including so called pros

    It is a game of chance as the word Pro goes out the door

    NFL is not a game of chance meaning players..They are PROS because some clown off the street cannot even touch them but in poker an 8th grader can win a poker tourney with 10 other pros in it

    GAME OVER
    penetrate all those acronyms JJ, but you better mutha fukkin' remember I'm a mutha fuckin' VIP and PIMP!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ballerholic View Post
    i'm always doing something else when playing sbr poker so I don't pay attention to other players, but can you imagine if you had a HUD for these games? Literally shooting fish in a barrel, as if it wasn't already...

    Indicator works for SBR. It makes the rigged threads all the more funny when you see the guy playing 60/10 poker
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    Quote Originally Posted by daneblazer View Post
    Indicator works for SBR. It makes the rigged threads all the more funny when you see the guy playing 60/10 poker
    Gimme my stats daner. Sample size probably pretty low.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Gonzo View Post
    And Billy Walters could be on the wrong side of a game whilst an 8th grader is on the winner, what kind of result orientated nonsense is this?

    To be a pro you simply need to have a positive hourly expectation that allows you a livable income and put in work.

    I agree, the poker balla is a myth but the grinding cash game pro is not.

    I'm not in the US but I bet horses for a living, and if I was in the US I'd be in Cali playing poker.
    Walters made 85% Of his money booking and real estate not sports betting

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty Sanchez View Post
    Only thing I know about Poker is every time I see it here at SBR I see that guy Bobby Waves whining about the totals being wrong
    If I had ever done this, then the totals were obviously wrong. It would be a public service announcement by bringing it to Sammy's attention, not whining.

    Obviously you know nothing about poker, as your lack of poker badges & broke dikk status clearly indicate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gauchojake View Post
    Gimme my stats daner. Sample size probably pretty low.

    I may run it tonight if I have time. gotta do some work on my laptop. indicator resets after every session, so I don't have history

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    Quote Originally Posted by daneblazer View Post
    Indicator works for SBR. It makes the rigged threads all the more funny when you see the guy playing 60/10 poker

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    What percent of SBR players would still lose even if we played the cards face up? 30-40% ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by boscokid View Post
    What percent of SBR players would still lose even if we played the cards face up? 30-40% ?
    Some guys would never win as they always raise pre flop with shit cards, somehow thinking they are "bluffing."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Gonzo View Post
    Not enough, you need to know their range and take into consideration how their range changes situationally.

    A top heavy range is very different from a balanced range, a player might be loose against fish but nitty against regs.

    Gonzo I'm not trying to get too in depth here. You have always been one of the sharpest posters here

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    Wait, why is this news? Most people have known this for a while.

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    you cant just like poker a lot , you have to love poker to make a living at it ,

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    Quote Originally Posted by daneblazer View Post


    Gonzo I'm not trying to get too in depth here. You have always been one of the sharpest posters here
    Google tells me these two stats basically tell you their range.

    How else do you find their range first and why are these stats so important if you need to work that out some other way?

    (you asked me to google it)

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    most people in Vegas pal are broke playing daily poker including so called pros

    It is a game of chance as the word Pro goes out the door

    NFL is not a game of chance meaning players..They are PROS because some clown off the street cannot even touch them but in poker an 8th grader can win a poker tourney with 10 other pros in it

    GAME OVER
    I agree

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