Anyone have any basic info on arbitrage strategies in sports wagering?
Thanks
Mudcat
Restricted User
07-21-05
9287
#2
No offense but, I hope anyone who knows how to make money arbing would be bright enough not to post their strategies on a public forum. I certainly wouldn't post any of my secrets (other than generalities like, you need to look for situations where the lines are out of whack between books).
It would be like a fisherman with a great fishing hole telling the whole town about it. It won't be long before there are no fish left for the guy who put in all the work of discovering the spot.
My only suggestion - which I used quite a bit when I was getting started years ago - is to form business relationships with people who know what they are doing. Sometimes two individuals can find a way to share this kind of information in a mutually profitable way.
But if you get bunches of people involved then everyone just ends up working against each other.
But who knows? Maybe some nut will come along and give away all his secrets. I'll keep an eye open for that.
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mockingboy
SBR High Roller
12-22-06
162
#3
I clearly can figure out how arbitrage strategies work and discrepencies in lines. I am curious though, how when betjamaica is at at -102, and matchbook at +103 ona game, how much money can you wagerto make any serious money.
There must be bigger and better ways to take advantage of spreads, but I am unclear on how someone can be a pure arbitrage bettor.
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vanman
SBR MVP
02-08-07
1163
#4
the amount you can make will depend on your bankroll and what your limits are at the books where your trying to make an arb.
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Jamie_UK
SBR MVP
01-12-07
1103
#5
Originally posted by mockingboy
Anyone have any basic info on arbitrage strategies in sports wagering?
Thanks
Well its not rocket science buddy, the strategy is you find a book that has a price that is out of line, you then either lay the price on an exchange or dutch it with a book that offers you a market in excess of 100%. Simple really, since I have started arbing I have won money beyond my wildest dreams , just yesterday I backed Spurs (thats the football team from London, not some yank nonsense) at Interwetten and I laid it at betfair , and I had a guaranteed profit of £0.27p , beat that suckers!
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vanman
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02-08-07
1163
#6
how much did interwetten let you have on £10?
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Jamie_UK
SBR MVP
01-12-07
1103
#7
Originally posted by vanman
how much did interwetten let you have on £10?
shut up, nothing that bad, I had £11.11, top banana mate.
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vanman
SBR MVP
02-08-07
1163
#8
lucky you,thats more than they let me have
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Jamie_UK
SBR MVP
01-12-07
1103
#9
Originally posted by vanman
lucky you,thats more than they let me have
Its game dependant , sometimes I can get £15 on!! happy days, nearly a bag of chips profit on that arbtastic wager.
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vanman
SBR MVP
02-08-07
1163
#10
Originally posted by Jamie_UK
Its game dependant , sometimes I can get £15 on!! happy days, nearly a bag of chips profit on that arbtastic wager.
Gave up on interwetten a couple of months ago,just couldn`t be bothered doing arbs for pence.
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Jamie_UK
SBR MVP
01-12-07
1103
#11
Originally posted by vanman
Gave up on interwetten a couple of months ago,just couldn`t be bothered doing arbs for pence.
They are worth doing for the 10% reloads, you just have to be patient and pick them off.
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Lucas
SBR MVP
12-20-05
1062
#12
guys it is a real fun making jokes from miniarbs while i read at another forum like some MODERATOR made great arb with stakes 0.14, 2.6 and 0.4 EUR
Lucas, they all count dude, I did an arb today and made the equivalent of 25c , if I do 1000 of them a day thats...erm...... $hit, its....erm......well, I can get chicken nuggets anyway!!!
There is a virus in that link, its all in gobbledegook Euro cr@p, make them speak English before its to late for them!!
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Lucas
SBR MVP
12-20-05
1062
#15
LOL
no it is a new EU country you moron..that is we who are making superpower from EU
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vanman
SBR MVP
02-08-07
1163
#16
Originally posted by Jamie_UK
There is a virus in that link, its all in gobbledegook Euro cr@p, make them speak English before its to late for them!!
It`s too late they`re already all infected.
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Jamie_UK
SBR MVP
01-12-07
1103
#17
Originally posted by Lucas
LOL
no it is a new EU country you moron..that is we who are making superpower from EU
Lucas, please.
No, it is a new EU Country you moron... it is us who are making the EU into a superpower.
I hope that helps my European friend.
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Lucas
SBR MVP
12-20-05
1062
#18
thank you jamie, my true friend
if you want to check my grammar, you can do it via PMs, while i am richer than you - pitiful arber of german low end shop - i can pay you nice money for the paper work that i hate
generous offer from you, soon whole UK will be only fabric for our sharp brains, i have never seen so many idiots as drunken Brits in Prague
Nice to see support from from you, now I am sorry my mindless friend, limousine is waiting for me, I must eat some supper in luxury restaurant, before I will pull some money from your US buddies
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betplom
SBR Posting Legend
09-20-06
13444
#19
LOL!
I just got back from changing my clothes cause I pissed myself reading this thread.
fukkin hilarious!!
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Jamie_UK
SBR MVP
01-12-07
1103
#20
Originally posted by Lucas
thank you jamie, my true friend
if you want to check my grammar, you can do it via PMs, while i am richer than you - pitiful arber of german low end shop - i can pay you nice money for the paper work that i hate
generous offer from you, soon whole UK will be only fabric for our sharp brains, i have never seen so many idiots as drunken Brits in Prague
Nice to see support from from you, now I am sorry my mindless friend, limousine is waiting for me, I must eat some supper in luxury restaurant, before I will pull some money from your US buddies
Lucas, if I had any idea what you are trying to say I would respond my rescued by the EU from communism friend. I think you should forget sport and stick to gypsy chasing
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Lucas
SBR MVP
12-20-05
1062
#21
Back.
Are you really masochist gypsy? My pleasure...
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Ganchrow
SBR Hall of Famer
08-28-05
5011
#22
Originally posted by mockingboy
I am curious though, how when betjamaica is at at -102, and matchbook at +103 ona game, how much money can you wagerto make any serious money.
This does not represent a profitable opportunity.
If Matchbook is at +103 then after taking into account the 2% commission paid of winnings, you're effectively receiving a line of 98% × +103 ≈ +100.94.
If Bet Jamaica is offering the other side at -102, then this corresponds to an expected loss of -0.260% (see my arbitrage calculator).
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kiwi
SBR Wise Guy
08-11-05
674
#23
Originally posted by mockingboy
Anyone have any basic info on arbitrage strategies in sports wagering?
But don't expect anyone tells you more than just general things.
Mainly guys who use multiple accounts on this forum, because they bet the max. on minor sports, and use books that do not want this type of action, and so on..
The worst thing is prolly that they openly post stuff like "on my 6th account with xxx now, hahahaha!"
You can find the basics there probably, but that´s it.
The rest is about people that have no shame, and like to admit it.
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curious
Restricted User
07-20-07
9093
#25
Originally posted by mockingboy
Anyone have any basic info on arbitrage strategies in sports wagering?
Thanks
In my opinion, the best way to use arbs is to find weak lines that have real value and then bet on the side of the arb that has the highest value. This is what I do.
I have a program that shows me baseball arbs and when I get an alert I handicap that game to see which team is out of line in terms of the value offered. Then I bet on that team.
My original intention was to bet arbs, but the spread is usually so low that you would have to bet > $10,000 on each side to make > $100. I don't like tying my bank up like that, so I use the arbs screen for information to help find good value.
Seems to work pretty well.
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tribet
SBR High Roller
08-12-06
171
#26
Originally posted by Zeroed
Mainly guys who use multiple accounts on this forum, because they bet the max. on minor sports, and use books that do not want this type of action, and so on..
The worst thing is prolly that they openly post stuff like "on my 6th account with xxx now, hahahaha!"
You can find the basics there probably, but that´s it.
The rest is about people that have no shame, and like to admit it.
Zeroed=Zero Idea
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raiders72002
SBR MVP
03-06-07
3368
#27
No offense but, I hope anyone who knows how to make money arbing would be bright enough not to post their strategies on a public forum. I certainly wouldn't post any of my secrets (other than generalities like, you need to look for situations where the lines are out of whack between books).
Mudcat- Why do you have to brag in every post? Either show the guy how to make money or shut up.
You don't have to show him how to manipulate the market but the basics would suffice.
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Zeroed
SBR High Roller
08-05-07
245
#28
Originally posted by tribet
Zeroed=Zero Idea
If i would be a mod. there, i would say that too.
But everyone can go and read it for themselves.
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Tevez
SBR High Roller
06-21-07
131
#29
My advice,
Learn more that you could on a secondary soccer league that has certain liquidity.
Ej Sweden, Ireland, Breazil, Argentina (some are beginning now)
Then when you know which bookies open lines first, buy the offers.
Wait to the weekend to sell them.
In the begining, this method is much profitable and less risky to get into the big leagues
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kiwi
SBR Wise Guy
08-11-05
674
#30
Originally posted by Zeroed
Mainly guys who use multiple accounts on this forum, because they bet the max. on minor sports, and use books that do not want this type of action, and so on..
The worst thing is prolly that they openly post stuff like "on my 6th account with xxx now, hahahaha!"
Zero Idea, are you the 'rebirth' of 'Yoshi'? I hoped he had gone...
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Zeroed
SBR High Roller
08-05-07
245
#31
Thought i´d post this, to refresh you guys memories on where you come from. Quote from a mod on that forum:
Hi Mark,
I'm pretty sure this subject has been mentioned plenty of times in the forum.
Anyway you have answered yourself, if you are limited you will need to open new accs and for that you will need a new ID (friends, relatives, etc...). Most bookies will limit you sooner or later, when and how bad? is difficult to say.
And no, iam not "Yoshi"..but i guess there are more people than me who noticed this. I could find and copy more, but what for.
So stop acting as if you wouldn´t know.
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tacomax
SBR Hall of Famer
08-10-05
9619
#32
Originally posted by raiders72002
Mudcat- Why do you have to brag in every post? Either show the guy how to make money or shut up.
You don't have to show him how to manipulate the market but the basics would suffice.
Raiders - why not tell the guy how to get a 100%+ payout on roulette via the Martingale system. Go on, post that again. That will brighten up my day.
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numptie
SBR Rookie
02-18-07
35
#33
Originally posted by vanman
Gave up on interwetten a couple of months ago,just couldn`t be bothered doing arbs for pence.