the greek (how can this house get an A)????

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  • devilonline
    SBR Rookie
    • 02-26-07
    • 40

    #1
    the greek (how can this house get an A)????
    hi, i've tried this house and let me say, they pay but is beside that the worst bet house in the world
    the webpage is horrible, the transations don't work well. now they charge me an fee of 11 euros because my acount is not active ?????
    In order for your account to be considered active there must be at least 2 wagers made each week within a 30 days period.
    then I discovered it was withdarawl fees.
    The account has been open and wagers placed each week for the last 30 days
    once again How can this bethouse get an A???

    thanks
  • WileOut
    SBR MVP
    • 02-04-07
    • 3844

    #2
    This is a joke right? An inactive fee?

    Surely you are a shill for somebody else.
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    • devilonline
      SBR Rookie
      • 02-26-07
      • 40

      #3
      ya. i didn't see that in any conditions.
      but this what they told me. never seen this in other house.

      this is not a joke i have the email sent by them!
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      • devilonline
        SBR Rookie
        • 02-26-07
        • 40

        #4
        somebody help me. i don't think it's normal inventing this rule.

        here are the conditions:
        Fees - Flat $15 USD charge - FREE - If the following conditions are met:
        Previous deposit(s) were made through NETeller
        A withdrawal of any type has not been made in the previous 14 days
        The account has been open and wagers placed each week for the last 30 days
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        • Lucas
          SBR MVP
          • 12-20-05
          • 1062

          #5
          Hey Devil,
          maybe you should read this forum or their TOC where you can see it written. From time to time some new 5 EURO/USD bettor here is angry because of this fee.

          So please now if you go to US bookies, ask everytime for withdrawal fees. This is not Europe and habbits are different. The inactive fee is normal for example at DPTgroup for Moneybookers or wire payouts. If you can not pay 15 USD / payout or make 2 bets a week /actually 1 should be enough in my experience/ TheGreek is not bookie for you.
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          • devilonline
            SBR Rookie
            • 02-26-07
            • 40

            #6
            i understand that this bookie is for professionals. but let's be honest this house get an A+????? this house is horrible in many ways. for the love of god correct that rate. and yes i understand the habbits are very diferent but this rule is not reasonable
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            • WileOut
              SBR MVP
              • 02-04-07
              • 3844

              #7
              Man an inactive fee just seems a little------well------wrong.

              Sometimes I go a week without making a bet, it would just piss me off to be penalized for that. I don't care if its 50 cents I would still get pissed.
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              • Lucas
                SBR MVP
                • 12-20-05
                • 1062

                #8
                please specify what "other terrible ways"?
                only bad what i see with them is that actually they are only fuzzy-professional bookie, that does not welcome all action

                except that they make fast big payouts, free for most bettors and at their CS are not total idiots;
                plus their lines are often among first on market

                if this rule is not acceptable for you, you should not register; IMO the rule is not hidden like smallprint at other bookies, but maybe i am wrong - just my opinion
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                • devilonline
                  SBR Rookie
                  • 02-26-07
                  • 40

                  #9
                  sorry but this house didn't deserve an A+. maybe they have fast and big payouts but other houses that don't have a+ also have. they have an website that maybe is the worst i've seen. know they have that strange fee, i didn't know that. but it's never late to close this acount, but what i want to say is that it was the most bad experience that i have in a bookie (beside pointbet)
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                  • WileOut
                    SBR MVP
                    • 02-04-07
                    • 3844

                    #10
                    I don't see this inactive fee rule listed anywhere on the site.
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                    • devilonline
                      SBR Rookie
                      • 02-26-07
                      • 40

                      #11
                      it's in the withdrawl conditions
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                      • WileOut
                        SBR MVP
                        • 02-04-07
                        • 3844

                        #12
                        Idiot that is a withdrawal fee. Its waived if certain (easily obtained) conditions are met. Its not an inactive fee at all.

                        The way you described it, I thought they took $15 out of your account everytime you go a week without betting. Not true at all.

                        The greek is a great book.
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                        • Lucas
                          SBR MVP
                          • 12-20-05
                          • 1062

                          #13
                          well.. your opinion, that only supports the idea that greek is not for small bettors; for me is much more important not design of pages (which i like btw, because i can be logged in for days and i can open multiple windows) and some minority fee; not many bookies allow you so big payouts like the greek, i swear

                          i do not know why did not you know about the fee - if i would be a newbie at greek, considering sign-up, i would click on deposits/withdrawals, if my wallet is supported, and there the fee is written! If it would be too much for me, i would just open a beer and bet at unibet
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                          • devilonline
                            SBR Rookie
                            • 02-26-07
                            • 40

                            #14
                            idiot! that what they told me. then they told me that is an withdraw condition

                            thanks lucas for your replys
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                            • WileOut
                              SBR MVP
                              • 02-04-07
                              • 3844

                              #15
                              90% of sportsbooks have some kind of withdrawal fees if you withdraw a certain way. It's not shady at all.
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                              • Lucas
                                SBR MVP
                                • 12-20-05
                                • 1062

                                #16
                                Originally posted by WileOut
                                90% of sportsbooks have some kind of withdrawal fees if you withdraw a certain way. It's not shady at all.
                                we are communists from europe, we hate those unregulated capitalistic fees; we rather pay 50times more on vig -125/-125
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                                • 20Four7
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 04-08-07
                                  • 6703

                                  #17
                                  LOL Lucas I've never seen -125 on each side but a lot of eurobooks are -118 each side for soccer. But they do let me withdraw cheap or free. You just have to hammer them when they make a mistake and put up a bad line.
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                                  • Lucas
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 12-20-05
                                    • 1062

                                    #18
                                    Ladbrokes standart -120
                                    Interwetten have maybe -130 + fee on deposits if i remember
                                    locals in my contry have -120 lines + 10% fee on stake (you pay this fee if you win but also if you lose)!!!

                                    to say that average bet in europe was bet at -125 was maybe too optimistic


                                    this vig does not push them to look at lines, so their linesmakers can be retards and monkeys - thanks god for them
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                                    • Dark Horse
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 12-14-05
                                      • 13764

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by devilonline
                                      but what i want to say is that it was the most bad experience that i have in a bookie (beside pointbet)
                                      Ah! So you have two books.

                                      You came to the right site. Not for emotional support for a missing five bucks, but to read about some of the real problems people have experienced with books.
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                                      • devilonline
                                        SBR Rookie
                                        • 02-26-07
                                        • 40

                                        #20
                                        not for emotional support thanks anyway. and it's not for the few bucks. it for the absurd of this bookie have A+. it's just my opinion. as the fees of
                                        The account has been open and wagers placed each week for the last 30 days
                                        , this is the most asurd rule that i ever seen. but no problem. this was my mistake when i registered in this bookie. there are many more with better conditions (for me).
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                                        • freebie
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 08-10-05
                                          • 1174

                                          #21
                                          a fuking withdraw fees? Sheesh, I thought you mean they milk $15 from your account if you don't make a wager in 2 weeks.

                                          inactive fees and withdrawal fees are 2 different things.
                                          God damn it, some people!
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                                          • jjgold
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 07-20-05
                                            • 388179

                                            #22
                                            Greek is an A+ book period
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                                            • isetcap
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 12-16-05
                                              • 4006

                                              #23
                                              This ranks up there as one of the most pathetic complaints I have ever seen.
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                                              • ms61853
                                                Restricted User
                                                • 04-10-07
                                                • 731

                                                #24
                                                I don't like it that the Greek will not allow a parlay to be made on side and total in the same game.
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                                                • Justin7
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 07-31-06
                                                  • 8577

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by ms61853
                                                  I don't like it that the Greek will not allow a parlay to be made on side and total in the same game.
                                                  Find a book that lets you do this on all games, and i'll show you a book that loses a lot of money.
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                                                  • WileOut
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 02-04-07
                                                    • 3844

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Justin7
                                                    Find a book that lets you do this on all games, and i'll show you a book that loses a lot of money.
                                                    WSEX allows it and I'm pretty sure that Cris does too. I think Cris may even go a step further and allows a +runline with an under, and a - runline with an over.
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                                                    • ms61853
                                                      Restricted User
                                                      • 04-10-07
                                                      • 731

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Justin7
                                                      Find a book that lets you do this on all games, and i'll show you a book that loses a lot of money.
                                                      I don't believe they ever allow it. Don't get me wrong -- I do like that book, but not this aspect.

                                                      I can't think of a time when I couldn't do this at 5 Dimes.
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                                                      • Justin7
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 07-31-06
                                                        • 8577

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by WileOut
                                                        WSEX allows it and I'm pretty sure that Cris does too. I think Cris may even go a step further and allows a +runline with an under, and a - runline with an over.
                                                        Cris used to allow same-game parlays in NCAAF. They don't anymore (at least games that are correlated).

                                                        Correlations in MLB aren't strong enough to win, but they can offset about half the juice. If you play with reduced juice, the correlation is enough to do real damage. If you're somewhat sharp and use this as another tool, you have an inflated edge over the book - which is why most won't allow it.
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                                                        • DrunkenLullaby
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 03-30-07
                                                          • 1631

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by ms61853
                                                          I don't believe they ever allow it.

                                                          I can't think of a time when I couldn't do this at 5 Dimes.
                                                          Put down the crack pipe. Actually put down both of them, the one you use when you log into Oly and the other one you use when you log into 5 Dimes. Neither of your statements is remotely close to accurate.
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                                                          • THE HITMAN
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 06-16-07
                                                            • 2394

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by devilonline
                                                            hi, i've tried this house and let me say, they pay but is beside that the worst bet house in the world
                                                            the webpage is horrible, the transations don't work well. now they charge me an fee of 11 euros because my acount is not active ?????


                                                            then I discovered it was withdarawl fees.
                                                            The account has been open and wagers placed each week for the last 30 days
                                                            once again How can this bethouse get an A???

                                                            thanks
                                                            Get your story/complaint straight before starting a thread.
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                                                            • devilonline
                                                              SBR Rookie
                                                              • 02-26-07
                                                              • 40

                                                              #31
                                                              thei ask me 3 wagers a week to can withdrawl but they don't say 3 wagers in the conditions
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                                                              • michael777
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 09-20-05
                                                                • 1936

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by devilonline
                                                                thei ask me 3 wagers a week to can withdrawl but they don't say 3 wagers in the conditions
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                                                                • Santo
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 09-08-05
                                                                  • 2957

                                                                  #33
                                                                  3 wagers a week is their definition of "active" for the free withdrawal I believe.
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                                                                  • devilonline
                                                                    SBR Rookie
                                                                    • 02-26-07
                                                                    • 40

                                                                    #34
                                                                    yes it is.
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                                                                    • betplom
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 09-20-06
                                                                      • 13444

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Justin7
                                                                      Find a book that lets you do this on all games, and i'll show you a book that loses a lot of money.
                                                                      Bet365 allows this, maybe thats why they sold their UK shops.
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