[BigDeem5]

Banner and Lombardi gone. Coach Chud gone.

Whole new front office, coaching staff.... Things get worse in Berea

[pavyracer]

Sounds a lot like yourself.

[Smoke]

Sounds a lot like yourself.

[BIGDAY]

Sounds a lot like yourself.

[opie1988]

Sounds a lot like yourself.

[Ted Sheckler]

Sounds a lot like yourself.

[Doughboy22]

Sounds a lot like yourself.

[bobby heenan]

ive actually stuck up for them even though im not a browns fan...i feel like there is potential there....talent wise....and armed with some good picks this year....i thought the chud move was a bit crazy but i let it slide....this just...i dunno.....be interesting to see how this plays out

[opie1988]

ive actually stuck up for them even though im not a browns fan...i feel like there is potential there....talent wise....and armed with some good picks this year....i thought the chud move was a bit crazy but i let it slide....this just...i dunno.....be interesting to see how this plays out

Heenan....WTF, pal? Did you not see what was happening here? It was beautiful.

If possible...could you please edit your post, and simply insert a immediately after quoting the above post from Pavy?

Your info was spot on, brother....but this thread had some serious comedic potential. Its bigger than all of us.

[BIGDAY]

Sounds a lot like yourself.

[bobby heenan]

sorry opie...i dont know much about the deemer...i remember hes some asian looking kid from ohio....but i dont really follow what goes on with him.....i did enjoy your post from the superbowl guy....you are a-ok with me

[Big Bear]

well the good thing is it will be 6 months before Football starts and your Indians may be decent again.

[bobby heenan]

Sounds a lot like yourself.

[InTheDrink]

Sounds a lot like yourself.

[Vegas39]

Sounds a lot like yourself.

[El Nino]

Sounds a lot like yourself.

[bobby heenan]

[opie1988]

Sounds a lot like yourself.

[boeing power]

Sounds a lot like yourself.

[Louisvillekid1]

Sounds a lot like yourself.

[STAX]

Don't think for one second Jimmy Haslam isn't a smart cookie. You don't just start a gas station, become a billionarre doing it, and then go buy an NFL team being a dumbass. Why would he hire two jokers to begin with in Banner and Lombardi to basically intervene with all football related decisions for the entire organization? And then go fire them, after they hired your head coach for the future, and presumably have to start from scratch all over again? Cleveland's problem was and is QB play... no bones about it. Haslam is BIG on a certain QB in this draft (Manziel). It wouldn't surprise me if the Browns were (intentionally) set up for failure in 2013 by having a circus in the front office. Chudzinski and Banner/Lombardi constantly feuded over roster moves. T. Richardson was a promising young RB at the time the Browns traded him (of course we all know now it was a genius move). The Browns are looking to package #4 and #26 (and more if need be) to move up to #1 to get their guy. This has been the plan all along, and it started before last season. Don't be surprised if the Browns trade their 2nd round pick for Cousins either. Even if they get their guy at #1. And even if we dont get JF, we get Bortles or Bridgewater at #4.

Browns QB's is 2014 could very well look like this...

Brian Hoyer
John Manziel/Bridgewater/Bortles
Kirk Cousins

[opie1988]

Goddammit, STAX.

Fukk man.

[bobby heenan]

Don't think for one second Jimmy Haslam isn't a smart cookie. You don't just start a gas station, become a billionarre doing it, and then go buy an NFL team being a dumbass. Why would he hire two jokers to begin with in Banner and Lombardi to basically intervene with all football related decisions for the entire organization? And then go fire them, after they hired your head coach for the future, and presumably have to start from scratch all over again? Cleveland's problem was and is QB play... no bones about it. Haslam is BIG on a certain QB in this draft (Manziel). It wouldn't surprise me if the Browns were (intentionally) set up for failure in 2013 by having a circus in the front office. Chudzinski and Banner/Lombardi constantly feuded over roster moves. T. Richardson was a promising young RB at the time the Browns traded him (of course we all know now it was a genius move). The Browns are looking to package #4 and #26 (and more if need be) to move up to #1 to get their guy. This has been the plan all along, and it started before last season. Don't be surprised if the Browns trade their 2nd round pick for Cousins either. Even if they get their guy at #1. And even if we dont get JF, we get Bortles or Bridgewater at #4.

Browns QB's is 2014 could very well look like this...

Brian Hoyer
John Manziel/Bridgewater/Bortles
Kirk Cousins

im sorry opie...i hate to do this....but

ya...thats it....trade 26 and 4 for manziel then trade 36 for cousins? lol...are you kidding me......yes qb play was their biggest problem....but its not the only issue.....to even trade 26 to move up for manziel would be idiotic.....and doing that and then trading 2nd rounder for cousins??? lol...cmon

[InTheDrink]

Sounds a lot like yourself.

[BIGDAY]

Sounds a lot like yourself.

[STAX]

if they trade up for manziel, they would be less likely to get Cousins, but ur probably right, that wouldn't happen. But if they settle for Bridgewater or Bortles, I could very well see them pulling that move. It can never be a problem to have toomany good QBs, and only one HAS to pan out. Then next year, maybe we are the ones trading a QB. They Browns will try to give a 3rd rounder for Cousins, but Redskins want a 2nd. Browns may pull that move before the draft starts, in the horrid case that Bortles, Manziel, and Bridgewater go 1-2-3.

[El Nino]

Sounds a lot like yourself.

[BigDeem5]

They don't want Cousins.

Hoyer
Bridgewater/Manziel
Pick up a scrub 3rd guy.

[Dirty Sanchez]

Browns are a fukkin trainwreck..Steelers have had 3 coaches in 45 years....Browns have had 3 coaches in 407 days

[Dirty Sanchez]

[The Kraken]

Sounds a lot like yourself.

[opie1988]

Sounds a lot like yourself.

[BIGDAY]

Sounds a lot like yourself.

[Smoke]

Sounds a lot like yourself.

[InTheDrink]

Sounds a lot like yourself.