How Much Would You Bet On A Fixed Game?

Dark Horse · 06-20-07, 07:18 PM

Depends on how much I would trust my source. I don't want to know about 80%. A fix is a fix is 100%.

If I'd trust my source 100% I'd bet 100%.

JBrown1045 · 06-20-07, 07:26 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

If your chance of winning was 80%?

I would bet everything I had to my name or get a huge loan to get down on the game.

whats an 80% fix? I thought a fix meant it was a "sure" thing.

Santo · 06-20-07, 08:28 PM

Plug it into Kelly, if you're 80% sure and bet 1/6 kelly at evens, you know what to do.

framboise · 06-20-07, 08:37 PM

There have been many fixed sport events in the past. Most I know involved soccer matches and some boxing matches.

Strangely enough, i didn't place a bet on any of them.

I remember one match that i'm sure was 100% fixed.

Denmark/Sweden at the Euro 2004 when the score ended 2-2.

The two Scandinavian sides, Sweden and Denmark knew in advance that 2-2 was scoreline that guaranteed both of them progress into the quaterfinals.

Surprise, surprise, the score ended 2-2. Hmm...

The price for the 2-2 draw was around 5.50.

JBC77 · 06-20-07, 09:23 PM

If you have a just a player or two shaving pts....it's not %100. You would have to have both sides in on it like Fram's example.

But sh1t.....80%, you have to put your balls on the line for 80%. When I play red/black at the Sun....I toss down some loot and thats 50%, had some good luck at that a few times. I'll do backflips for 80%.

Santo · 06-20-07, 11:00 PM

Originally posted by framboise

There have been many fixed sport events in the past. Most I know involved soccer matches and some boxing matches.

Strangely enough, i didn't place a bet on any of them.

I remember one match that i'm sure was 100% fixed.

Denmark/Sweden at the Euro 2004 when the score ended 2-2.

The two Scandinavian sides, Sweden and Denmark knew in advance that 2-2 was scoreline that guaranteed both of them progress into the quaterfinals.

Surprise, surprise, the score ended 2-2. Hmm...

The price for the 2-2 draw was around 5.50.

Serie B or Serie C a couple of years ago had some classic fixed matches. The big giveaway was the in-running odds.. same in tennis.

When a player is up 5-2 final set, and their opponents were odds on at Betfair, well, suspicions were raised

slash · 06-21-07, 02:32 AM

Originally posted by framboise

There have been many fixed sport events in the past. Most I know involved soccer matches and some boxing matches.

Strangely enough, i didn't place a bet on any of them.

I remember one match that i'm sure was 100% fixed.

Denmark/Sweden at the Euro 2004 when the score ended 2-2.

The two Scandinavian sides, Sweden and Denmark knew in advance that 2-2 was scoreline that guaranteed both of them progress into the quaterfinals.

Surprise, surprise, the score ended 2-2. Hmm...

The price for the 2-2 draw was around 5.50.

If you had watched the game, you would know it wasn't a fix. Of course when the score was 2-2 with only a few minutes to go, none of the teams risked anything.

And normally the Italians are the ones fixing games.

adriano · 06-21-07, 03:05 AM

Hahahaha. This game was a fix.

And there is no need to watch the whole game, just the "blunder" by the swedish keeper minutes before the end.

jjgold · 06-21-07, 06:14 AM

Soccer is the most rigged sport out there, an 80% shot (hypothetical) you have to unload heavy.

acw · 06-21-07, 06:30 AM

I never bet on fixed matches.

A) Often not every player has been involved in the fix, so still not 100% sure.
B) I make enough money betting on honest matches and do not wish my accounts limited for having bet on a fixed match.

Then there are these 100% honest matches, totally no fix whatsoever, just 11 reserve players being fielded of which some of the books are not aware yet, so they all keep up the same prices, on BetFair proper gamblers like jjgold start betting on the other team, all the Santos and kiwis start helping those guys out as traders and scalpers getting them on in the Asian market and as a bonus BetFair reports these honest gamblers as frauds, because they were betting unusually big

Keep me out of all this!

framboise · 06-21-07, 08:32 AM

Originally posted by slash

If you had watched the game, you would know it wasn't a fix. Of course when the score was 2-2 with only a few minutes to go, none of the teams risked anything.

And normally the Italians are the ones fixing games.

Sure they made it look like it wasn't a fixed game because if there would have been any evidence that the game was planned to end 2-2, there would have in deep troubles. Althought they haven't found any proofs that the game was planned to end 2-2, you can't argue the fact that both scandinaves teams, Denmark and Sweden, knew before the game that with a 2-2 result, they were guaranteed a place into the quaterfinals, even if Italy would have scored 3goals against Bulgaria. So for that reason, it makes perfect sense to fix the game.

"And normally the Italians are the ones fixing games."

True.

Pareto · 06-21-07, 08:48 AM

@ Adriano

It was the danish keeper who made a huge blunder so the score ended 2-2. I agree that this could seem suspicious ( especially if you are Italian, considering the many strange results that happens every year in italian soccer). But before this happened the danish team had many chances to score the 3-1 goal. Shots that were miraculously saved. Denmark had incentive to win the game, as they would go through as group winners instead of runners up. But when the score is 2-2 with 5 minutes to go, then naturally no team wanted to risk anything.

When people say that this game was fixed, it says more about the moral of the people uttering the statement than about this game.

adriano · 06-21-07, 09:17 AM

My mistake about the keeper and who levelled the score at end. Game was 3 years ago, and i didn't research before posting.

Now, i'm not Italian at all, but my country played in that EC group and btw was on the receiving end of some of the most terrible refereeing (fixed is a proper word here again) i've ever seen.

About the game, you think scoring 2 goals in a few minutes is any problem at all in a fixed game?

No comment on the last paragraph of your post.

raiders72002 · 06-21-07, 09:20 AM

Russian tennis players are known for being on the take.

Pareto · 06-21-07, 09:31 AM

I am sure scoring two goals in a fixed game is very easy. But if you are convinced that this is a fixed game solely because the danish keeper made a mistake ( a mistake which you see happen in many games ), then you are just looking for a conspiracy.

freebie · 06-21-07, 10:13 AM

all sports are fixed. Anytime money is involve the fix is in.

I just learn to bet on the right side of the fixed games.
when I lose a game, I just tell myself to get in on the right side of the fixed game next time.

And if I win, I'll say to myself that was a good fixed game to win.

framboise · 06-21-07, 10:48 AM

Originally posted by freebie

all sports are fixed. Anytime money is involve the fix is in.

I just learn to bet on the right side of the fixed games.
when I lose a game, I just tell myself to get in on the right side of the fixed game next time.

And if I win, I'll say to myself that was a good fixed game to win.

Hum, no. Not every sports events are fixed.

pjesnik24 · 06-21-07, 11:22 AM

I remember when HSV lost against Paderborn in DFB Pokal. Now that had some really really strange decisions and in the end it was proven that the referee fixed the game. However, not many people knew about it so that the odds stayed quite normal (HSV was a big favourite all the time if I remember correctly)

pavyracer · 06-21-07, 11:25 AM

This year's superbowl and loss of Dallas in basketball playoffs was fixed too.

pjesnik24 · 06-21-07, 11:25 AM

there are fixed games everywhere, but if too many people know about it then I am sure I will avoid it at any cost because if I know about it then I am also sure that bookies also know about it.