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  • Eddy Munny
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    • 08-13-13
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    #36
    Originally posted by asiagambler
    Collusion. Mark Cuban spinning in his grave
    Are you breaking even more shocking news?
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    • asiagambler
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      • 07-23-17
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      #37
      Originally posted by Eddy Munny
      Are you breaking even more shocking news?
      That it's collusion? I don't think it's really that shocking
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      • Eddy Munny
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        • 08-13-13
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        #38
        Originally posted by asiagambler
        That it's collusion? I don't think it's really that shocking
        Clever.

        Someone has to be in their grave to be rolling over in it or "spinning" as you put it..
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        • Madison
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          • 09-16-11
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          #39
          Originally posted by 2Sweeet
          What does it change? Nothing. Lakers gave up a first round pick also. Luka is washed at 32 he's out of shape every yr. Unless he changes his ways. No one is closer to Luka than the Mavs and they just traded him. It should tell you something.
          How many top 20 players have soured with Kyrie?

          And isn't Luka up for contract renewal this year or next.

          LeBron now playing second fiddle.

          Half the battle in the NBAis getting these primadonna's to play together!!

          Watchability waning badly.
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          • Madison
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            • 09-16-11
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            #40
            Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
            The Laker just won 8 of the last 10, so they were on an upward trajectory. I think the Mavs could have a formidable big lineup defensively. This helps the Mavs right now. It should help the Lakers after LeBron.
            Someone needs to cover up for Kyrie's DEF misgivings.
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            • Madison
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              • 09-16-11
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              #41
              Originally posted by ChuckyTheGoat
              basketballforever

              5h5 hours ago







              Luka Doncic has reached up to 270 pounds and the Dallas Mavericks were growing concerned, per ESPN.This makes Luka the 7th heaviest player in the NBA
              That says one thing to me ... "Wear and tear on legs/knees".
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              • Mac4Lyfe
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                • 01-04-09
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                #42
                Originally posted by Ian
                Crazy. If Luka gets motivated to stay in shape this could be a great move for the Lakers.
                Stay in shape??? Luka’s never been in shape. Better chance seeing him and Zion at the Buffett at the Golden Corrall. Rumor is that the Macs tried everything to get him motivated and he just wasn’t committed. That’s a huge red flag. Maybe this will motivate him.
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                • Mac4Lyfe
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                  • 01-04-09
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                  #43
                  Originally posted by lakerboy
                  I haven't followed the NBA much but the Mavs got robbed
                  It seems like it me as well. So why would they do it? Maybe they know something we don’t? I really like Max Christie. He could be a steal here. Both teams benefit by this trade imo. Both Davis and Luka are made of glass, so coin flip which one plays more games. Can Kyrie carry the Mavs? I don’t think more than Luka could but the Mavs obviously said it was time to punt. Crazy.
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                  • Mac4Lyfe
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                    • 01-04-09
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                    #44
                    Originally posted by ChuckyTheGoat
                    basketballforever5h5 hours ago
                    Luka Doncic has reached up to 270 pounds and the Dallas Mavericks were growing concerned, per ESPN.This makes Luka the 7th heaviest player in the NBA
                    DAMN!!! Put the freaking fork down. This tells me Luka is not incensed on winning. Zion is a good comparison. Transcendent players but doesn’t have the gene to be a killer. Maybe Luka will see how committed Lebron is to nutrition and weight training.
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                    • stevenash
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                      • 01-17-11
                      • 65361

                      #45
                      Originally posted by ChuckyTheGoat
                      Nash, that's a great post. Very well-thought out. Where else do you get content like that?
                      Thank you for that, appreciate the words.

                      I use RotoWire for DFS content and analysis, there's three others I'll refer to such as NumberFire, but my go to for DFS is RotoWire.
                      I'm freelance by choice, I'm not on anybody's payroll, this way I can never be labeled a shill, plus I can never be 'cancelled'.

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                      IMO, The Athletic is light years ahead of every other publication when it comes to content, digital or traditional print.
                      The Athletic only hires the elite writers, if you don't have Pulitzer type credentials, you're not getting hired by The Athletic, shit, you're lucky if they even read your resume. The Athletic is the only paid content subscription I have, one dollar a month, it's usually 6.95 monthly.

                      The Athletic - Sports news, stories, scores, schedules, podcasts, and more

                      As you know my passion is MLB, my go to guy is Ken Rosenthall, I 'speak' to him on occasions on X.
                      He also writes for The Athletic, he got me The Athletic discounted monthly rate.
                      When it comes to MLB there's Ken Rosenthall is #1, and everyone else is #2, just my opinion.

                      NHL hockey is a beautiful sport, it's poetry in motion, ballet on ice but with bone shattering hits against the dasher board.
                      Problem is MLB and NFL consume most of my time, so there's not much time leftover to dedicate to NHL, I have a good working knowledge of the sport, but that's pretty much it, so I lean on the dedicated puck heads I know to get me up to speed.
                      There're other sources I'll refer to, but you get the gist.

                      Originally posted by MOBIL19
                      Lakers 15/1 to win the 'ship. You heard it here first
                      LAL was +4000 prior to opening day to win it all, it's sitting now at +1600 (give or take, some books vary a little)
                      LAL was +2500 prior to opening day to win the West Conference, it's sitting now at +850.

                      I've never, ever seen in season movement like that in any sport.

                      Originally posted by unde0087
                      They got one thing right in the title of the article......this trade is about news worthy as a blockbuster video store
                      What, no love for Hollywood Video?
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                      • Steelers05
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                        • 12-12-24
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                        #46
                        How dare the NBA announce a blockbuster trade on the NFL's big day of the inaugural Flag Football Pro Bowl
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                        • stevenash
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                          • 01-17-11
                          • 65361

                          #47
                          Originally posted by Steelers05
                          How dare the NBA announce a blockbuster trade on the NFL's big day of the inaugural Flag Football Pro Bowl
                          The nerve of Adam Silver.
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                          • RunBookRun
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                            • 12-19-21
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                            #48
                            Doncic is a bum. Been saying so years. Not committed to excellence. Just wants to show off. Great trade. But in end Mavs GM will lose, because this likely wakes him up. Luka loses 70 lbs. And becomes an MVP, and champion.. Lebron will not toletate fat, lazy players, one of few players who outrank Luka and can give him a hard time for bring out of shape. In Dallas, everyone had to kiss his ass
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                            • pavyracer
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                              • 04-12-07
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                              #49
                              When a trade is so much one sided the league should not approve it. The Mavs got nothing in return.
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                              • ChuckyTheGoat
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                                • 04-04-11
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                                #50
                                Originally posted by RunBookRun
                                Doncic is a bum. Been saying so years. Not committed to excellence. Just wants to show off. Great trade. But in end Mavs GM will lose, because this likely wakes him up. Luka loses 70 lbs. And becomes an MVP, and champion.. Lebron will not toletate fat, lazy players, one of few players who outrank Luka and can give him a hard time for bring out of shape. In Dallas, everyone had to kiss his ass
                                Fair comment. This should be a wake-up call for Luka.

                                And you're right about Lebron. Luka SHOULD be prepared to learn from Lebron. Maybe Lebron's last chapter is as a Mentor to this guy.
                                Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                                • stevenash
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                                  • 01-17-11
                                  • 65361

                                  #51
                                  And the Mavs celebrate by going out and losing by 43 points.
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                                  • pavyracer
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                                    • 04-12-07
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                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by RunBookRun
                                    Doncic is a bum. Been saying so years. Not committed to excellence. Just wants to show off. Great trade. But in end Mavs GM will lose, because this likely wakes him up. Luka loses 70 lbs. And becomes an MVP, and champion.. Lebron will not toletate fat, lazy players, one of few players who outrank Luka and can give him a hard time for bring out of shape. In Dallas, everyone had to kiss his ass
                                    When Michael Jordan was 25 years old the Bulls record was 47-35 and they finished 5th in their division and lost to the Pistons in East Finals. Luka has already accomplished more than MJ did at that age. How ols was Lebron or Kobe Bryant before they won a champioship?
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                                    • IBetYou
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                                      • 07-03-15
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                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by asiagambler
                                      That it's collusion? I don't think it's really that shocking
                                      Either a deal between two buddies or a DEI idiot. Lakers actually had another 1st rounder to give. Maybe they can get themselves a centre now.
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                                      • Headsterx
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                                        • 12-03-16
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                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by pavyracer
                                        When Michael Jordan was 25 years old the Bulls record was 47-35 and they finished 5th in their division and lost to the Pistons in East Finals. Luka has already accomplished more than MJ did at that age. How ols was Lebron or Kobe Bryant before they won a champioship?
                                        But fat Luka will never win a championship.
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                                        • ChuckyTheGoat
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                                          • 04-04-11
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                                          #55
                                          A lot of valid points in this thread. I was a Luka fan from early on. I saw him lead Slovenia to a win at the 2017 Euro Basket.

                                          I was blown away. He led a nation of 2.0 Million people to the European championship. Goran Dragic was the only Slovenian player of real note.

                                          I made a mental note to myself. How much is this guy going to get touted? Will he ever have a bigger career achievement?

                                          1) Looking in the rear-view mirror, I really think the 2017 Euro title might be his career highlight.
                                          2) When a player has success, the pundits tend to push expectations higher. He's had team and individual success. But maybe not to the n-th degree.
                                          3) Go back to the Money angle. I'm sure he was VERY hungry to establish himself at the start of his career. What does money do to a guy? Doesn't seem to have diminished Jokic's drive. But every guy is different.

                                          As a sports-fan, I'll be rooting for Luka. You always want someone to reach their potential. But they have to earn it.
                                          Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                                          • IBetYou
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                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by ChuckyTheGoat
                                            A lot of valid points in this thread. I was a Luka fan from early on. I saw him lead Slovenia to a win at the 2017 Euro Basket.

                                            I was blown away. He led a nation of 2.0 Million people to the European championship. Goran Dragic was the only Slovenian player of real note.

                                            I made a mental note to myself. How much is this guy going to get touted? Will he ever have a bigger career achievement?

                                            1) Looking in the rear-view mirror, I really think the 2017 Euro title might be his career highlight.
                                            2) When a player has success, the pundits tend to push expectations higher. He's had team and individual success. But maybe not to the n-th degree.
                                            3) Go back to the Money angle. I'm sure he was VERY hungry to establish himself at the start of his career. What does money do to a guy? Doesn't seem to have diminished Jokic's drive. But every guy is different.

                                            As a sports-fan, I'll be rooting for Luka. You always want someone to reach their potential. But they have to earn it.
                                            Wow. Boom or bust for some! He led the Mavs to the finals last season, but they weren't the best out of 30 so he's a disappointment...

                                            The days of stars winning championships ended when they got rid of the hard cap. Contenders spending vastly different amounts on salaries. It matters. It's why James has so few championships, and why Durant has any.
                                            Last edited by IBetYou; 02-03-25, 12:02 AM.
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                                            • Steelers05
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                                              #57
                                              What about that Kings' trade, they got a stockpile of picks.
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                                              • IBetYou
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                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by Steelers05
                                                What about that Kings' trade, they got a stockpile of picks.
                                                They got Lavine and a bunch of 2nd rounders. Strange franchise. They certainly like SG, but the only PG on the roster is a rookie.
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                                                • IBetYou
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                                                  #59
                                                  Spurs got another T.Parker. Bit of a prima donna though, and not team oriented. Parker was molded by the Spurs into a winner from the very beginning. More charisma & leadership ability & toughness than Fox will ever have.
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                                                  • Mac4Lyfe
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                                                    • 01-04-09
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                                                    #60
                                                    People forget the Hawks chose Trae over Luka. Maybe they know something about him as well? Maybe he likes having sex with under aged girls?? Something is fishy.
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                                                    • 19th Hole
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                                                      #61
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                                                      Upon hearing the trade news,
                                                      EMTs carried A. Davis and Luka Doncic into separate Emergency Rooms.
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                                                      • 2Sweeet
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                                                        • 08-31-22
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                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by Madison
                                                        Someone needs to cover up for Kyrie's DEF misgivings.
                                                        So who's gonna cover up for the Lakers defense misgivings. It sure isn't Dough Boy. Maybe they should call up Dwight? if he isn't sucking some dudes coccck right now. Neither team is winning shit anytime soon.
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                                                        • 2Sweeet
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                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by IBetYou
                                                          Wow. Boom or bust for some! He led the Mavs to the finals last season, but they weren't the best out of 30 so he's a disappointment...

                                                          The days of stars winning championships ended when they got rid of the hard cap. Contenders spending vastly different amounts on salaries. It matters. It's why James has so few championships, and why Durant has any.
                                                          This guy was on fumes by the Finals and Kyrie or no1 else helped? U ppl are blind Luka is one of the worst defensive players in the NBA. Again the Mavs let him walk you don't do that with real Superstars at age 26.
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                                                          • 2Sweeet
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                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                                                            People forget the Hawks chose Trae over Luka. Maybe they know something about him as well? Maybe he likes having sex with under aged girls?? Something is fishy.
                                                            I think it's to much of the
                                                            Slovenian Cream Cake

                                                            At least his mom is hot so we will be seeing a lot more of her.

                                                            She must be one hell of a baker to.
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                                                            • mpaschal34
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                                                              • 02-04-13
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                                                              #65
                                                              This may have been said somewhere in the thread…but this is just the first step to get the Mavs franchise to Vegas. Piss the fans off a couple of years and then leave when no one really cares.
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                                                              • JAKEPEAVY21
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                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by mpaschal34
                                                                This may have been said somewhere in the thread…but this is just the first step to get the Mavs franchise to Vegas. Piss the fans off a couple of years and then leave when no one really cares.
                                                                The local sports talk radio must be blowing up this morning!!

                                                                If I was a Mavs fan, I'd be beyond pissed off...
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                                                                • Easy-Rider 66
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                                                                  #67
                                                                  Originally posted by pavyracer
                                                                  When a trade is so much one sided the league should not approve it. The Mavs got nothing in return.
                                                                  Davis is called the glass man but would say he is one of the top 5 centers in the game. So don't see your take. And with Luka hurt as much as he seems to be you could refer to him as well that moniker?
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                                                                  • Steelers05
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                                                                    #68
                                                                    Just my opinion but I would rather have AD than Luka, I just think AD fits better with James than Luka will. I can kind of see it if you are trying to move on from Lebron in the coming year seeing Luka's only 26 but not like he is a built for longevity 26, dude doesn't take care of himself.
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                                                                    • klemopixx
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                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by ChuckyTheGoat
                                                                      Nash, that's a great post. Very well-thought out. Where else do you get content like that?

                                                                      You used to see some trades like this. Almost like both parties could use a change of scenery.

                                                                      I think the key points have come to the forefront:
                                                                      1) This guy (Doncic) doesn't keep himself in top shape.
                                                                      2) The Mavs were staring at a HUGE payday. And they didn't like it.

                                                                      People think these escalating contracts are normal. When you're on the hook for that $$, you have to think about how you're going to re-coup that $$.
                                                                      Bingo. The Mavs saw how his conditioning is worsening every year and know that if you sign him to that super-max, you're never getting rid of him. This is exactly what the Sixers should have done with Embiid this offseason instead of giving him a huge extension. Now they're stuck with an injury riddled player who has no motivation to play in the regular season. Same thing with Kawhi Leonard.
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                                                                      • Steelers05
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                                                                        #70
                                                                        Watching First Take and they are making such a big deal about it not being discussed with the superstars prior to the trade happening, it's a little comical. I know they make outrageous money and are a big reason why fans are in the seats but at the end of the day they are just employees and as we all know employers have the authority and final say.
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