College football is history

[gokaps]

It's still good for betting but its lost whatever charm it had.
It's just junior pro football now. The quarterbacks at the top schools now make
way over a million per year. The other players make half a million or so.
Soon to increase since they just passed a law that says colleges can pay athletes
directly now and don't have to go through the NIL bullshit.
Doubt these guys even go to class or get tutoring anymore unless they want to.
They're just pro football employees of the school.

[Headsterx]

“Doubt these guys even go to class or get tutoring anymore unless they want to.
They're just pro football employees of the school.”

Huh? That’s how it’s been for years, at least they are now getting paid with real money. I remembered I saw a football player in class at the first day in college and, not surprisingly, the last time I ever saw him in class.

[gokaps]

Thats an exagerration to say nobody went to class or got tutoring. I went to a Div 1 school 10 years ago and there were 3 football players in my psychology class . Just saying they should rename this sport junior pro football because to call it college football is an insult .

[Headsterx]

Thats an exagerration to say nobody went to class or got tutoring. I went to a Div 1 school 10 years ago and there were 3 football players in my psychology class . Just saying they should rename this sport junior pro football because to call it college football is an insult .

Do you think for the last 25-30 years the majority of the top football players, the ones who moved on to NFL, actually cared and/or went to classes?

[homie1975]

It's still good for betting but its lost whatever charm it had.
It's just junior pro football now. The quarterbacks at the top schools now make
way over a million per year. The other players make half a million or so.
Soon to increase since they just passed a law that says colleges can pay athletes
directly now and don't have to go through the NIL bullshit.
Doubt these guys even go to class or get tutoring anymore unless they want to.
They're just pro football employees of the school.

could not agree more with you.
when the bowl games sucked asss last season because of all of the opt outs and all that mattered was the two semifinal
games and the title game, i was done.
very sad because i loved college football since brett favre played at southern miss 35 years ago.

[unde0087]

Throw on top of that transfer portal and teams changing conferences every year. I mean there is basically three conferences now that even matter. It has just become all about the money, zero loyalty. Players changing teams like most of us change underwear. It didn't take very long for the NCAA to lose control.

[homie1975]

Throw on top of that transfer portal and teams changing conferences every year. I mean there is basically three conferences now that even matter. It has just become all about the money, zero loyalty. Players changing teams like most of us change underwear. It didn't take very long for the NCAA to lose control.

true.

[klemopixx]

Isn't this what everyone wanted though? Before it was the same ten teams at the top of the polls every year, maybe one team having the year of its life. Now you don't know who will be in it although teams with the most ca$h can load their rosters each year. The schedule is better this year too with oddball matchups all year long. What I would like to see is a paring down of only Div 1 teams playing each other. No more Morgan St or Cal Poly Tech opponents for Bama and Texas. Money has always ruined the college game, it's just out in the open now. And make the transfer portal just one week a year.

[mjsuax13]

It is a wrap. It’s NFL Lite but most people have not told these kids they aren’t going to the NFL and they aren’t gonna be much better than they already are. You never hear about the kids who don’t make it or who aren’t high NIL guys. Ohio State just spent $20 million this season on a roster chasing Michigan. People wanted this though… fan boys and fans asked for it and helped create this monster. There are fans in some of these states who have never even stepped foot on any campus and then go nuts about young men! Bizarre. They are basically stalkers on 17-22 year old kids via social media, websites, etc… made them famous before they ever got a dime. Of course- that would make you think you deserve the world.

The kids deserve to get paid! The kids deserve more! They should be able to transfer whenever they want! It’s a bunch of hired mercenaries now. Not saying they didn’t deserve and earn more or the rules weren’t archaic but let’s not act like it’s about education. It goes both ways- if you don’t perform I will just cut your ass or better yet NO NIL Asswipe. Like the real world. I blame the NCAA and coaches as well. It’s not about education, making boys into men, providing opportunities, blah blah blah. It’s about MONEY. Period. I’m Michigan Alumni and they’ve had kids ask for $5k-$15k just to show up for a recruiting visit. GTFO. Let’s be real though- this was always happening, just public now. I can lay out the schemes and scams on paying players pre NIL if you want.

[JAKEPEAVY21]

Sadly, I agree.

College football used to be my favorite sport and I still enjoy but it's not nearly the same.

[texhooper]

Yall clearly didn’t watch the week zero games. It was awesome and weird just like college football should be. Stop old-man-shakes-fist-at-cloud and watch the damn games. Playoff means more teams get a shot (including one guaranteed little guy) but still small enough and with enough seeding implications that every regular season game will still matter.

Snap out of it! This shit rules!

[stevenash]

I just read where some SEC schools have hired GM's just like the NFL.
Yeah, this isn't our daddy's college football any longer.

Having said all that, that Ga. Tech game restored some faith.
That game was as good as it gets.

[mjsuax13]

Yall clearly didn’t watch the week zero games. It was awesome and weird just like college football should be. Stop old-man-shakes-fist-at-cloud and watch the damn games. Playoff means more teams get a shot (including one guaranteed little guy) but still small enough and with enough seeding implications that every regular season game will still matter.

Snap out of it! This shit rules!

The games were great for sure but it is NFL lite and the under current of building rosters through money will eventually deplete the smaller guys and make them even more irrelevant. You also will have the bigger guys and donors at some point ask- what’s in it for me?! As it stands today- really only 2.5 conferences even matter. I say build out one big NFL lite conference with salary caps based on actual revenue and let them compete for the real national title. Maybe have 5-6 schools relegated like euro soccer each year. There needs to be more structure or the gap of the haves and have nots will only get greater.

I do disagree that all games will matter though, we will get better games across the board but a 1-2 loss team can still make the playoffs and do damage. It’s all ok by me- my beef is the illusion that it’s about education or more importantly about the kids. You aren’t hearing about the Jimmy’s and Joes who probably need the education more than the football.

[mjsuax13]

I just read where some SEC schools have hired GM's just like the NFL.
Yeah, this isn't our daddy's college football any longer.

Having said all that, that Ga. Tech game restored some faith.
That game was as good as it gets.

Watching them beat a paid for NIL ROSTER keeps some of the faith for sure.

[SomeDayinBuffalo]

Collage football is back!! I'm looking more to this season than I have in the past 10 years. How can you not like players getting paid. With the new rules more players are getting paid. The only thing that still needs to happen is to get rid of the NCAA. Come up with a head of collage football. The NCAA doesn't know what they are doing and has shown over the years. If they did TV would of not had to blow it up.

How collage football is now gives hope to a lot of teams. Every year you can make you team better with the portal. For teams just making the tournament is going to be a win. Makes it more interesting to a lot more people. Live sports is where it's at. More people that have rooting interest, means more money for all.

[texhooper]

It’s not as different as you’re making it out to be MJ, it’s just above board now. Everyone has always paid everyone, the scale has shifted up as it’s easier to do now but the haves have and will always be the haves and the have nots are always struggling for relevance.

Seeds 1-4 get a bye. And yes 1-2 loss teams get in but a) 1 loss teams have always been in the top 4 and won titles so who cares and b) no one is gonna want to take a 2nd loss and face an extra game (or get a third and get left out!) so the regular season games will still feel huge as they’re happening, more games will be of consequence honestly because there’s more spots.

Just everyone really think about what you’re lamenting. The portal part IS different, but the paying and kids not graduating and all that, this has always been going on. When the games really start this won’t even be a discussion because college football is so perfect it cannot be ruined!!!!!

[JAKEPEAVY21]

thooper, agreed that the 12 team playoff should make things a lot more interesting...

They need to figure out the NIL and transfer portal stuff so that is not the wild wild west.

[stevenash]

Live sports are like real life therapy for a lot of people.
I've read where sports have inspired physically handicapped people to get out there and go, like wheelchair basketball for instance, track meets for those with artificial limbs is another.

One of the quickest ways to anger me is to make an off-colored crack about the Special Olympics.
Have you ever noticed the faces of those young ones that participate?
I hate the term "game changer" but it truly is.

Maybe it's just me, I'm on board with play for pay on the college level, but if you're accepting cash money to play hoops, football, or whatever. the least you can do is pay back that 100k in tuition scholarships.

[mjsuax13]

Collage football is back!! I'm looking more to this season than I have in the past 10 years. How can you not like players getting paid. With the new rules more players are getting paid. The only thing that still needs to happen is to get rid of the NCAA. Come up with a head of collage football. The NCAA doesn't know what they are doing and has shown over the years. If they did TV would of not had to blow it up.

How collage football is now gives hope to a lot of teams. Every year you can make you team better with the portal. For teams just making the tournament is going to be a win. Makes it more interesting to a lot more people. Live sports is where it's at. More people that have rooting interest, means more money for all.

The real question is… when does the NCAA implode finally? It’s like kicking up money to a mob boss on their death bed. Fukkk em!

[mjsuax13]

It’s not as different as you’re making it out to be MJ, it’s just above board now. Everyone has always paid everyone, the scale has shifted up as it’s easier to do now but the haves have and will always be the haves and the have nots are always struggling for relevance.

Seeds 1-4 get a bye. And yes 1-2 loss teams get in but a) 1 loss teams have always been in the top 4 and won titles so who cares and b) no one is gonna want to take a 2nd loss and face an extra game (or get a third and get left out!) so the regular season games will still feel huge as they’re happening, more games will be of consequence honestly because there’s more spots.

Just everyone really think about what you’re lamenting. The portal part IS different, but the paying and kids not graduating and all that, this has always been going on. When the games really start this won’t even be a discussion because college football is so perfect it cannot be ruined!!!!!

Fair. It’s always been happening. I need to see some graduation rates! lol

[texhooper]

Fair. It’s always been happening. I need to see some graduation rates! lol

LOL someone get this man some graduation rates! Some APR numbers!!!

[texhooper]

Collage football is back!! I'm looking more to this season than I have in the past 10 years. How can you not like players getting paid. With the new rules more players are getting paid. The only thing that still needs to happen is to get rid of the NCAA. Come up with a head of collage football. The NCAA doesn't know what they are doing and has shown over the years. If they did TV would of not had to blow it up.

How collage football is now gives hope to a lot of teams. Every year you can make you team better with the portal. For teams just making the tournament is going to be a win. Makes it more interesting to a lot more people. Live sports is where it's at. More people that have rooting interest, means more money for all.

I would give this a point or two if I could

[unde0087]

Collage football is back!! I'm looking more to this season than I have in the past 10 years. How can you not like players getting paid. With the new rules more players are getting paid. The only thing that still needs to happen is to get rid of the NCAA. Come up with a head of collage football. The NCAA doesn't know what they are doing and has shown over the years. If they did TV would of not had to blow it up.

How collage football is now gives hope to a lot of teams. Every year you can make you team better with the portal. For teams just making the tournament is going to be a win. Makes it more interesting to a lot more people. Live sports is where it's at. More people that have rooting interest, means more money for all.

Well I am going to have to disagree with the "gives hope to more teams" bit. The paying players changes nothing to help smaller teams, it only makes the rich richer. Smaller schools had a hard enough time fighting with recruiting, now they have to go against top schools large ass pocket books. This only makes the top schools horde in more top players. As for the 12 team playoff, nothing is changing. You are just going to see more SEC and Big 10 schools in the playoff. We will still be sitting there the night after the bracket is announced listening to the committee defend taking a 4 loss SEC team over a undefeated lower tier conference champion, all the while knowing it was all about the money for them and not actually the bullshit coming out of their mouth.

[dollarbill]

Did Brett repay the WELFARE MONEY?

[homie1975]

some of you are missing the point.
the NIL is a good thing.
who is not in favor of players getting paid, especially the top players?
besides, if they are making millions in college it can hopefully keep them around longer.

the difficult part for me is that it is so tough to keep track of the QB's let alone the rest of the starters,
because every kid is a free agent now and can simply transfer for just about any reason he wants.

i am a way bigger CFB fan than NFL however I have now moved to the latter because i actually know the QB's on all 32 teams
and it makes it more fun for me knowing that and seeing how the teams improve (or regress) over the course of seasons and in-season.

i cannot wait until the NFL starts next week.

[stevenash]

LOL someone get this man some graduation rates! Some APR numbers!!!

I just spent ten minutes researching this.
This data us a year and a half old, the number in the data base was 74%

I didn't realize Boise State pretty much graduates all the kids.
UCF too.

There are a ton of smart schools out west, Air Force is wicked smart, and I consider Colorado out west.

Here's your list.

NCAA Academic Progress Rate: 2023 APR Football Rankings 1-133 - College Football News | College Football Predictions, Analysis and Updates

[Optional]

Bowl games seemed a lot better not many years ago.

Fix that so it means something to everyone and all the players want to be part of it would help a lot.

[lonegambler23]

It's still good for betting but its lost whatever charm it had.
It's just junior pro football now. The quarterbacks at the top schools now make
way over a million per year. The other players make half a million or so.
Soon to increase since they just passed a law that says colleges can pay athletes
directly now and don't have to go through the NIL bullshit.
Doubt these guys even go to class or get tutoring anymore unless they want to.
They're just pro football employees of the school.

what are you a college administrator?

[unde0087]

Bowl games seemed a lot better not many years ago.

Fix that so it means something to everyone and all the players want to be part of it would help a lot.

Opti, you will see all the toiletries sponsoring the bowl games now because that is what they are worth. Now Charmin with host the wipe it deep bowl and Clorox Bleach spray will sponsor the toilet rim bowl.

[JAKEPEAVY21]

Bowl games seemed a lot better not many years ago.

Fix that so it means something to everyone and all the players want to be part of it would help a lot.

The non playoff bowl games are a joke now with all the players opting out etc

Not sure it can be fixed as players do what they feel is right for them.

[Easy-Rider 66]

The non playoff bowl games are a joke now with all the players opting out etc

Not sure it can be fixed as players do what they feel is right for them.

If in their BOOTS Jake and you were sitting on making millions in NFL or risking serious injury in a meaningless bowl game. What do you think you would do?

[JAKEPEAVY21]

If in their BOOTS Jake and you were sitting on making millions in NFL or risking serious injury in a meaningless bowl game. What do you think you would do?

Not saying that they do not have the right to do so or a smart business decision but can you argue it has ruined most bowl games?


Not sure what can be done about it at this point but most bowl games are about as bad as the now defunct NFL Pro Bowl....

[johnnyvegas13]

Like a part of history???

[Optional]

As a foreigner growing up with not much interest in American Football, I remember The Rose Bowl as being known as the most important trophy in the sport.

I know now I was wrong, but that was the perception of how important that game was at one time.

[Snowball]

This is America. Having an education gets you nowhere.