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  • veriableodds
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 08-22-17
    • 5093

    #1
    is it a DOG in MLB??
    MLB Baseball Trends - Season To Date


    straight up dogs home/or/away
    41.8% win rate

    Against The Spread Trends (ATS) home/or/away

    57.5%
  • bhoor
    SBR MVP
    • 12-17-12
    • 2256

    #2
    Of all the sports, MLB is the most profitable for betting.
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    • 19th Hole
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 03-22-09
      • 18835

      #3
      MLB
      Sat 7/29/23
      Dogs 10---Favs 5
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      • OldBill
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 11-02-21
        • 6398

        #4
        love MLB dogs because it's money line bet just that sports books use 20 - 30 cent lines too much

        like - 220 fv but dog is only + 190
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        • OldBill
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 11-02-21
          • 6398

          #5
          when i was betting MLB with a local huge favs he used - 1.5 runs for saying im doing you a favor i said no your robbing of dog money i want +250 for my $200 so he snaps back you get 1.5 runs and +120 grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr ok so i'm getting the team who i think wins the game +1.5 runs right? OK give me that dog for $1000 whoaaaaaa he snaps you never bet that much ya know if you lose you pay me $1100 i said what? no this aint NFL buddy or nba this is ML betting i lose 1000$ if they lose by 2 runs or more right?

          HE said ok u got it the DOG WON 10- 2 lol i call him up ok see ya fri budddy whooo oooo couldnt drive fast enough to ac nj casinos 1000$ cash on craps table wam wam wam buried them won $2500 more in 4 hours took dinner break at 7 pm nice juicy rib eye steak baked tater plus salad and drink with free comp ...... went back to differnt table played rest of night until about 4 am and i'm fuggin happy with $6579
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          • lakerboy
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 04-02-09
            • 94364

            #6
            Originally posted by bhoor
            Of all the sports, MLB is the most profitable for betting.
            This is 100% fact.
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            • stevenash
              Moderator
              • 01-17-11
              • 65171

              #7
              Originally posted by bhoor
              Of all the sports, MLB is the most profitable for betting.
              You've made a lot of good points in the decade that you've been here, I know, I read most everything.
              But the aforementioned quote just may be the truest words you ever uttered.

              *off topic*
              Don't you love it when in NCAA hoops, when an unranked home team, a two point unranked home team favorite beats a ranked visiting two point underdog team, and those empty suited talking heads over at ESPN's Sports Center tease their upcoming telecast with "the biggest upset of the month"

              How exactly is a, say, a 10-5 unranked Big East Providence team, as a two point home favorite beats a say, then 12-3 14th ranked road underdog Xavier team a n upset?
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              • bhoor
                SBR MVP
                • 12-17-12
                • 2256

                #8
                Originally posted by stevenash
                You've made a lot of good points in the decade that you've been here, I know, I read most everything.
                But the aforementioned quote just may be the truest words you ever uttered.

                *off topic*
                Don't you love it when in NCAA hoops, when an unranked home team, a two point unranked home team favorite beats a ranked visiting two point underdog team, and those empty suited talking heads over at ESPN's Sports Center tease their upcoming telecast with "the biggest upset of the month"

                How exactly is a, say, a 10-5 unranked Big East Providence team, as a two point home favorite beats a say, then 12-3 14th ranked road underdog Xavier team a n upset?
                You understood the game very well from the fan/analyst point of view. Even with the deep knowledge of sports, you won't get too far in sports betting because there will be too many external factors ( rigging, players, coaches, market influences etc). The bet you make would be an ideal one from your analysis point of view but market will decide differently. To beat this game, you have to find an edge that should be independent of these market forces, for example, I found gematria is the key to beat this game, at least,that's my point of view. MLB offering 160 games would be a perfect sports to exploit these market conditions using Gematria. My issues are MM and discipline. This NCAA/NFL/NHL/NBA season I'm thinking big as all of you. And I will provide my numbers end of this yr.

                Cheers!
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                • bhoor
                  SBR MVP
                  • 12-17-12
                  • 2256

                  #9
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                  • bhoor
                    SBR MVP
                    • 12-17-12
                    • 2256

                    #10
                    [IMG][/IMG]
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                    • veriableodds
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 08-22-17
                      • 5093

                      #11
                      The unbiased approach of assigning numerical value to data/words. T-A playing T-B on road (T-A) has a clear enough better record to catch your eye as a possible pick. So you check the last 10 games they have played. Unfortunately, they have only won 5 of last 10 games so personally it would be scratch, if they had won 6, that would be a different story. It would be a complete scratch game if making a case for T-B simply cause of the record differential. Then you have teams/games where the records are very close. To eliminate silliness of going crazy volume wise you want to stick with the games when dog line is at least +120, and have won at least 5 of last 10 or they would be a scratch also. Certainly, wouldn't take the other side as in paying juice for it, that's just crazy. This works well for NHL, essentially, it's the same for all sports if the spread has value.
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                      • veriableodds
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 08-22-17
                        • 5093

                        #12
                        Todays card
                        possibles
                        mlw
                        tb
                        blt
                        laa
                        clv
                        bst
                        mlw is scratch.
                        tb is a scratch.
                        blt, laa, clv, bst are all go wagers and all dogs
                        Not betting this just example. for explaining purposes
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                        • Machba
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 01-08-19
                          • 6743

                          #13
                          [QUOTE=veriableodds;31213170]Todays card
                          possibles
                          mlw
                          tb
                          blt
                          laa
                          clv
                          bst
                          mlw is scratch.
                          tb is a scratch.
                          blt, laa, clv, bst are all go wagers and all dogs
                          Not betting this just example. for explaining purposes[/QUOT
                          Boston will not win today
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                          • ChuckyTheGoat
                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                            • 04-04-11
                            • 36700

                            #14
                            Originally posted by veriableodds
                            The unbiased approach of assigning numerical value to data/words. T-A playing T-B on road (T-A) has a clear enough better record to catch your eye as a possible pick. So you check the last 10 games they have played. Unfortunately, they have only won 5 of last 10 games so personally it would be scratch, if they had won 6, that would be a different story. It would be a complete scratch game if making a case for T-B simply cause of the record differential. Then you have teams/games where the records are very close. To eliminate silliness of going crazy volume wise you want to stick with the games when dog line is at least +120, and have won at least 5 of last 10 or they would be a scratch also. Certainly, wouldn't take the other side as in paying juice for it, that's just crazy. This works well for NHL, essentially, it's the same for all sports if the spread has value.
                            Boys...I'm telling you. This guy (Veri) is GOOD.
                            Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                            • stevex
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 05-02-10
                              • 5122

                              #15
                              Back to chalk winning 10-12 games on each card, daily.
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                              • JohnGalt2341
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 12-31-09
                                • 9138

                                #16
                                Originally posted by veriableodds
                                MLB Baseball Trends - Season To Date


                                straight up dogs home/or/away
                                41.8% win rate

                                Against The Spread Trends (ATS) home/or/away

                                57.5%
                                Any idea on what the average Line/Price is on these?
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                                • stevenash
                                  Moderator
                                  • 01-17-11
                                  • 65171

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by stevex
                                  Back to chalk winning 10-12 games on each card, daily.
                                  When you consider there are 2,480 MLB regular season games a year that's an insignificant sample size though.
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                                  • stevenash
                                    Moderator
                                    • 01-17-11
                                    • 65171

                                    #18
                                    *double post*
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                                    • stevex
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 05-02-10
                                      • 5122

                                      #19
                                      Chalk 4-1 already today (normally chalk owns day games). Here we go with another day of dogs maybe winning a game.
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                                      • veriableodds
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 08-22-17
                                        • 5093

                                        #20
                                        looking at today's card breakdown
                                        favorites
                                        atl, cnn, blt, mlw, lad
                                        DQ'd from this list cnn, mlw, lad so plays are atl, blt

                                        close record dogs with above/+115 payout
                                        nyy, cws, tor, mia, az, cld
                                        DQ'd from list cws, az, cld plays are nyy, tor, mia thats 5 total w/3 dogs
                                        models that are showing total value
                                        hou/nyy shows 9.62-vs-9 line
                                        nym/blt shows 9.89-vs-9 line
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                                        • veriableodds
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 08-22-17
                                          • 5093

                                          #21
                                          MLB Baseball Trends - Season To Date


                                          straight up dog home/away 41.7%
                                          ats dog home/away 57%
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                                          • bhoor
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 12-17-12
                                            • 2256

                                            #22
                                            Gematria says Rockies today
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                                            • JohnGalt2341
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 12-31-09
                                              • 9138

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by bhoor
                                              Gematria says Rockies today
                                              Is this for real? If so, how do you calculate who is going to win using gematria?
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                                              • stevex
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 05-02-10
                                                • 5122

                                                #24
                                                AND it begins with the Cubs. Just bet chalk in MLB all season to make money.
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                                                • texhooper
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 01-05-09
                                                  • 10001

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by veriableodds
                                                  MLB Baseball Trends - Season To Date


                                                  straight up dog home/away 41.7%
                                                  ats dog home/away 57%
                                                  Do you have unit tallies for each of these by chance? 41.7% sounds profitable straight up but 57% on +1.5 does not
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                                                  • veriableodds
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 08-22-17
                                                    • 5093

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by stevex
                                                    AND it begins with the Cubs. Just bet chalk in MLB all season to make money.
                                                    post #20 ATL was a play today/chalk
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                                                    • veriableodds
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 08-22-17
                                                      • 5093

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by bhoor
                                                      Gematria says Rockies today
                                                      I see your point on this one(not much to be said for STL), but Colorado has only won 3 of the last 10. I also watched the line go from +160 to over +180
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                                                      • veriableodds
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 08-22-17
                                                        • 5093

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by veriableodds
                                                        Todays card
                                                        possibles
                                                        mlw
                                                        tb
                                                        blt
                                                        laa
                                                        clv
                                                        bst
                                                        mlw is scratch.
                                                        tb is a scratch.
                                                        blt, laa, clv, bst are all go wagers and all dogs
                                                        Not betting this just example. for explaining purposes
                                                        winning only 2 of these but still made +1u if 1u was wagered each play
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                                                        • bhoor
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 12-17-12
                                                          • 2256

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by JohnGalt2341
                                                          Is this for real? If so, how do you calculate who is going to win using gematria?
                                                          Some combinations with #s and its team names
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                                                          • veriableodds
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 08-22-17
                                                            • 5093

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by texhooper
                                                            Do you have unit tallies for each of these by chance? 41.7% sounds profitable straight up but 57% on +1.5 does not
                                                            No I hate runlines, however if you can get +1 runs instead of +1.5(alt lines) it appears it should be profitable. How far will that drop the 57% I dont know.
                                                            Percentage of One-Run MLB Games From 2004-2014
                                                            • 7,824 Games Out of 27,080 Games
                                                            • 28.89% Decided By One Run
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                                                            • veriableodds
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 08-22-17
                                                              • 5093

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by veriableodds
                                                              looking at today's card breakdown
                                                              favorites
                                                              atl, cnn, blt, mlw, lad
                                                              DQ'd from this list cnn, mlw, lad so plays are atl, blt

                                                              close record dogs with above/+115 payout
                                                              nyy, cws, tor, mia, az, cld
                                                              DQ'd from list cws, az, cld plays are nyy, tor, mia thats 5 total w/3 dogs
                                                              models that are showing total value
                                                              hou/nyy shows 9.62-vs-9 line
                                                              nym/blt shows 9.89-vs-9 line
                                                              5-2 with examples. That should be enough information for a good foundation of baseball theory. lol. forgot TB they were on list but opposite of the side I check dont know if they would of been a play but they won..
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                                                              • veriableodds
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 08-22-17
                                                                • 5093

                                                                #32
                                                                only 1 game for me today
                                                                sfg/oak/ov-7.5
                                                                model shows 9.28runs
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                                                                • Machba
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 01-08-19
                                                                  • 6743

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Get on the nats today
                                                                  They win easily again
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                                                                  • bhoor
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 12-17-12
                                                                    • 2256

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Gematria says Chicago Cubs today along with many others.
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                                                                    • JohnGalt2341
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 12-31-09
                                                                      • 9138

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by bhoor
                                                                      Some combinations with #s and its team names
                                                                      Yeah, but how do you read it?

                                                                      Originally posted by bhoor
                                                                      Gematria says Chicago Cubs today along with many others.
                                                                      Are you getting this from a website or your own calculation? OR are you just trolling? Gematria intrigues me but I've never tried applying it to Sportsbetting. I'm just curious as to how people attempt to go about it.
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