Milwaukee bucks fired budholzer, could they trade giannis

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  • chen
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    • 03-21-09
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    #1
    Milwaukee bucks fired budholzer, could they trade giannis
    They ****** up
  • johnnyvegas13
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    • 05-21-15
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    #2
    Not surprising

    I doubt they trade gianooo tho
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    • Eddy Munny
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      • 08-13-13
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      #3
      Originally posted by johnnyvegas13
      Not surprising

      I doubt they trade gianooo tho
      Have you ever spelled his name correctly even once?
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      • ChuckyTheGoat
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        • 04-04-11
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        #4
        1) Why would they trade G?

        2) Budenholzer probably deserved to get fired. Pretty easy exit this year.

        3) OK to fire Bud. But can you replace him with someone BETTER?
        Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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        • Headsterx
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          • 12-03-16
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          #5
          Originally posted by Eddy Munny
          Have you ever spelled his name correctly even once?
          At least he didn't try his last name...

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          • IBetYou
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            #6
            They must have someone in mind. Either way an elite level coach hits the market
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            • KVB
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              #7
              Originally posted by IBetYou
              They must have someone in mind. Either way an elite level coach hits the market
              That's what I'm thinking.

              Can't believe they'd just dump this coach then see what comes down the line.

              They might have really fukked up here if the team falls apart.

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              • ChuckyTheGoat
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                #8
                Originally posted by IBetYou
                They must have someone in mind. Either way an elite level coach hits the market
                Not saying you're wrong. Just that in coaching circles...the Coach's IQ goes up 20 pts when they have good players.
                Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                • IBetYou
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by ChuckyTheGoat
                  Not saying you're wrong. Just that in coaching circles...the Coach's IQ goes up 20 pts when they have good players.
                  I base my coaching rating upon how players are receptive to him, and how quickly they pick up the system. These are generally good indicators imo. Maybe we'll get a better feel for what kind of coach he is in his next stop, if there is one. Maybe NBA teams want a black coach 1st, 2nd, 3rd candidtates... Udoka is a hot commodity and he was on the verge of sexually assaulting staff at his previous job.
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                  • bjb7223
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                    • 11-03-12
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                    #10
                    Nick Nurse
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                    • IBetYou
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by bjb7223
                      Nick Nurse
                      Yes, another one. NBA teams want a black coach. Adam Silver intimated he wanted more a few years ago. Now we are seeing it. Only the very brightest white guys will keep their jobs. Might be a case of Bud or Nurse rather than both, which is rather tragic.
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                      • IBetYou
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                        #12
                        Bickerstaff's Cav's flame out in an embarrassing 1-4 defeat as favs. No injuries, they simply played soft. Not necessarily the fault of the coach, but it's curious how he escapes blame while others don't.
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                        • goduke
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                          • 02-17-10
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by KVB
                          That's what I'm thinking.

                          Can't believe they'd just dump this coach then see what comes down the line.

                          They might have really fukked up here if the team falls apart.

                          It’s well deserved. I don’t want a coach who doesn’t call a timeout with .5 seconds left and then when asked about it it’s like he didn’t even realize they had a timeout.
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                          • stevenash
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                            • 01-17-11
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by IBetYou
                            I base my coaching rating upon how players are receptive to him, and how quickly they pick up the system. These are generally good indicators imo.
                            Suppose a poor GM surrounds a good head coach players with a low basketball IQ that aren't bright enough to pick up on the coaches good system?
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                            • ThaTopMoron
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                              #15
                              maybe he should've called a TIMEOUT before the Bucks double digit lead in game 5 had turned into a 1 point deficit before he finally called one

                              good coaches call it after the lead is down to 8 or 7... get in a good play and get a bucket and stymie the run.

                              he's lucky they got to play who they played in the Finals vs Suns
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                              • stevenash
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                                • 01-17-11
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by goduke
                                It’s well deserved. I don’t want a coach who doesn’t call a timeout with .5 seconds left and then when asked about it it’s like he didn’t even realize they had a timeout.
                                Agree with this.

                                Steph called timeout last week late in the fourth when his Warriors had none to call.
                                You have to put most of that blame on Kerr, right?
                                After Kerr lost the challenge it cost him his final timeout.

                                That almost cost the Warriors the game, it didn't, but if it did we might be watching the Kings playing now in the semi finals.
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                                • d2bets
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                                  #17
                                  They won't trade him, but he likely only plays the next 2 seasons there. Then he will leave.
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                                  • TheMoneyShot
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                                    #18
                                    This isn't a surprise. Horrible coaching.... and he looks like a complete bum. Hardly shaves... hardly gets a haircut. Bags under the eyes. Have some pride for christ sake.
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                                    • IBetYou
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                                      #19
                                      You're saying he's a poor coach based upon usage of timeouts? Do you realise how low level that sounds? Phil Jackson famously sat on timeouts because he wanted his players to persevere... you need your players to figure things out if you want to go far, else you may as well get waxed in the opening round.
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                                      • ChuckyTheGoat
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
                                        This isn't a surprise. Horrible coaching.... and he looks like a complete bum. Hardly shaves... hardly gets a haircut. Bags under the eyes. Have some pride for christ sake.
                                        Guy has probably been surfing porn for the L22 days.

                                        Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                                        • IBetYou
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                                          #21
                                          And he doesn't shave. My god, we really are getting into world class analysis now
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                                          • IBetYou
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                                            #22
                                            I don't know how many teams are interested in a white coach in the current climate, but a middle tier team would do v.well with Bud or Nurse, and I would bet big money on it.
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                                            • TheMoneyShot
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by IBetYou
                                              You're saying he's a poor coach based upon usage of timeouts? Do you realise how low level that sounds? Phil Jackson famously sat on timeouts because he wanted his players to persevere... you need your players to figure things out if you want to go far, else you may as well get waxed in the opening round.
                                              The only reason why Phil Jackson is an exception.... he was that intelligent that if they got down by 12.... he could get you right back in the game. Most coaches can't do that. Bud got fired because you simply can't lose to Miami. Furthermore, I still believe Giannis could of played the games he missed. Perhaps resting him as a precautionary measure? Figured they could of easily beat Miami... so many things I'm sure the owner found out about and waited to make a decision.
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                                              • TheMoneyShot
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by ChuckyTheGoat
                                                Guy has probably been surfing porn for the L22 days.

                                                lol you're giving him too much credit on the photo Chucky lol he actually did his hair.

                                                Only coach that can pull of the bum look is Belichick. lol an exception to the rule
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                                                • lakerboy
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                                                  • 04-02-09
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by IBetYou
                                                  You're saying he's a poor coach based upon usage of timeouts? Do you realise how low level that sounds? Phil Jackson famously sat on timeouts because he wanted his players to persevere... you need your players to figure things out if you want to go far, else you may as well get waxed in the opening round.
                                                  You don't think he should have called a timeout in that situation?
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                                                  • IBetYou
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by lakerboy
                                                    You don't think he should have called a timeout in that situation?
                                                    I don't know. I don't pay attention to that stuff really. A veteran team shouldn't need a moment to compose themselves. They should figure it out. Bucks demise was more to do with Anteto' taking a couple games off because his back hurt after tumbling over Love, imo.
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                                                    • goduke
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                                                      • 02-17-10
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by IBetYou
                                                      I don't know. I don't pay attention to that stuff really. A veteran team shouldn't need a moment to compose themselves. They should figure it out. Bucks demise was more to do with Anteto' taking a couple games off because his back hurt after tumbling over Love, imo.
                                                      Did you even watch the game? Its an elimination game with .5 seconds left in a tie game. And your answer is the players need to compose themselves?
                                                      I’m not sure how you can be this passionate about this firing and not know that? Or based on your responses it seems you might just be passionate about it because you think it’s a race thing?
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                                                      • IBetYou
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by goduke
                                                        Did you even watch the game? Its an elimination game with .5 seconds left in a tie game. And your answer is the players need to compose themselves?
                                                        I’m not sure how you can be this passionate about this firing and not know that? Or based on your responses it seems you might just be passionate about it because you think it’s a race thing?
                                                        No I didn't watch all of it. It's the job of the assistant coaches to let the coach know if there's timeouts remaining. I remember a similar thing with David Blatt the year before he got fired. Seems petty to me to fire a coach over such trivialities... such things can be ironed out. You have to consider a person as a whole; the strengths and the weaknesses. GL getting somebody as good as him in their next hire.
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                                                        • KVB
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by IBetYou
                                                          And he doesn't shave. My god, we really are getting into world class analysis now
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                                                          • goduke
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                                                            • 02-17-10
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by IBetYou
                                                            No I didn't watch all of it. It's the job of the assistant coaches to let the coach know if there's timeouts remaining. I remember a similar thing with David Blatt the year before he got fired. Seems petty to me to fire a coach over such trivialities... such things can be ironed out. You have to consider a person as a whole; the strengths and the weaknesses. GL getting somebody as good as him in their next hire.
                                                            It’s the job of the coach to manage in game situations. The assistants are a complement to him. Your evaluation is like saying the failing of a company isn’t the leader of the company’s fault.
                                                            And if you don’t call a time out in an elimination game while getting beat by a 1 man team and not making adjustments to stop 1 guy then you deserve to be fired.
                                                            I’m kind of over this argument though because you revealed what you cared about earlier which was race. You are mad he’s white, got fired and could be replaced by a black coach. Hidden behind this race passion by you is really weak arguments.
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                                                            • jtoler
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                                                              #31
                                                              pathetic, guy brings them a chip a couple years ago and this is how they repay him.
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                                                              • homie1975
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                                                                • 12-24-13
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                                                                #32
                                                                the GREEK FREAK not going anywhere
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                                                                • homie1975
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                                                                  • 12-24-13
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by jtoler
                                                                  pathetic, guy brings them a chip a couple years ago and this is how they repay him.
                                                                  agree.

                                                                  it's not like the Chip happened 5 or more years ago.

                                                                  23 mos ago for crying out loud
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                                                                  • stevenash
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                                                                    • 01-17-11
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by homie1975
                                                                    agree.

                                                                    it's not like the Chip happened 5 or more years ago.

                                                                    23 mos ago for crying out loud
                                                                    Unfortunately pro sports is a "what have you done lately" business.
                                                                    I don't agree necessarily, but that's the way it is.

                                                                    Joe Girardi wins a Manager of the Year award with the Marlins and he got shit canned less than a year later for example.
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                                                                    • bjb7223
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by homie1975
                                                                      agree.

                                                                      it's not like the Chip happened 5 or more years ago.

                                                                      23 mos ago for crying out loud
                                                                      The Bucks are done after this crazy decision.
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