Hexversi Puzzle #4. Multiple Choice. 1st correct guess Wins 50 Points.

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  • JohnGalt2341
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    • 12-31-09
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    #1
    Hexversi Puzzle #4. Multiple Choice. 1st correct guess Wins 50 Points.
    1 guess per person. If you guess a 2nd time, your 2nd guess will be ignored. First correct guess Wins 50 Points.

    Hexversi has the exact same rules as Othello except the board is shaped like a hexagon and there is a dead spot in the middle of the board as seen in the image below. You cannot play through the dead spot, you must play around it. If you do not know how to play Othello, I recommend that you watch the minute and a half video below, and you will know ALL of the rules.

    What's the best move for Green?(feel free to take a guess)




    I'm going to add a 100 Point bonus for the first 10 players that post a screenshot of themselves beating this AI in the link below. Take the screenshot before your last move of the game so the AI doesn't block the image.

    http://meta-site.net/hexlo/?fbclid=I...xXgSGPufKWHqTE

    I'll keep this going until 10 people beat it. You can only win this ONCE. AND, you can't use someone else's screenshot. In other words.... it has to be a unique configuration. This is NOT a strong AI. It's VERY aggressive. Aggressive play is EASY to beat once you know how to deal with it.

    Here's some hints to how games are Won. Games are NOT won by gobbling up as many pieces as you can on every single move. This is a TERRIBLE strategy. Games are won by trying to run your opponent out of options/moves entirely, and forcing them to give you a corner. Whomever has more options/moves, is ALMOST ALWAYS winning the game, regardless of what the score says.

    When it comes to piece count, you'll usually want to think "less is MORE", until you can get a corner. Try to keep your pieces INSIDE of your opponents pieces. This will create MORE options/moves for you.

    Once you run your opponent out of options(good ones at least), then you get to dictate the direction of the game, and getting your piece count up high and winning the game after that is easy. Good luck!
  • JohnGalt2341
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    • 12-31-09
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    #2
    Any guesses?
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    • SEAHAWKHARRY
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      • 11-29-07
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      #3
      J4.
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      • SamsNCharge99
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 10-22-08
        • 41242

        #4
        I7. Sets up the next move to bottom left to steal that whole row next move
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        • JohnGalt2341
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          • 12-31-09
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          #5
          Originally posted by SEAHAWKHARRY
          J4.
          Nope
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          • JohnGalt2341
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            • 12-31-09
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            #6
            Originally posted by SamsNCharge99
            I7. Sets up the next move to bottom left to steal that whole row next move
            Nope
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            • Service Plays
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 04-10-10
              • 849

              #7
              b6 is my wild guess
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              • Ian
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                • 11-09-09
                • 6066

                #8
                J5

                thanks for another contest, Galt.
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                • JohnGalt2341
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                  • 12-31-09
                  • 9138

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Service Plays
                  b6 is my wild guess
                  Originally posted by Ian
                  J5

                  thanks for another contest, Galt.
                  Nope
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                  • dog
                    SBR MVP
                    • 10-08-05
                    • 1738

                    #10
                    f10
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                    • Snowball
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                      • 11-15-09
                      • 30047

                      #11
                      i7...
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                      • Housemoney
                        SBR MVP
                        • 09-17-09
                        • 3912

                        #12
                        A8 is my guess
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                        • JohnGalt2341
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                          • 12-31-09
                          • 9138

                          #13
                          Originally posted by dog
                          f10
                          Originally posted by Snowball
                          i7...
                          Originally posted by Housemoney
                          A8 is my guess
                          Nope
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                          • SamsNCharge99
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 10-22-08
                            • 41242

                            #14
                            And so it continues
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                            • SamsNCharge99
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 10-22-08
                              • 41242

                              #15
                              J4
                              I7
                              F10
                              A8
                              B6
                              J5

                              all eliminated. 6 down 8 to go

                              probably the one you least expect
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                              • jackpot269
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 09-24-07
                                • 12840

                                #16
                                G9. ?
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                                • jackpot269
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 09-24-07
                                  • 12840

                                  #17
                                  Didn't know if regular players could guess! If not just ignore mine
                                  How do you add a screenshot to a post? If we are eligible to win if not ill add it anyway if I can figure out how!
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                                  • JohnGalt2341
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                                    • 12-31-09
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by jackpot269
                                    G9. ?
                                    Nope
                                    Last edited by JohnGalt2341; 09-03-22, 07:35 PM.
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                                    • JohnGalt2341
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                                      • 12-31-09
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by jackpot269
                                      Didn't know if regular players could guess! If not just ignore mine
                                      How do you add a screenshot to a post? If we are eligible to win if not ill add it anyway if I can figure out how!
                                      Yes, you are eligible. For the regular puzzles I'm going to cap it at 100 points, so... you can only win twice. And for the AI, you can only win once. Here's how I post a screenshot.... I use this link:

                                      Provides free image upload and hosting integration for forums. Free picture hosting and photo sharing for websites and blogs.


                                      This will turn it into a jpg format. You should be able to do it from there. Let me know if you have any other questions.
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                                      • JohnGalt2341
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                                        • 12-31-09
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                                        #20
                                        Anybody try to beat the AI yet?



                                        The AI is not very strong. It's VERY aggressive(aggressive players are terrible once you know how to deal with them). Read post #1 on tips on how to beat the AI. And don't play the hexes in Red in the image below too early against the AI. These are called X-hexes. These are delicate hexes because they are next to the corner so you must play them wisely.

                                        Also, in case I haven't mentioned it, corners are VERY VERY good to have because they are yours to keep. And once you get a corner, you can start working FROM that corner, and those pieces are yours to keep as well.



                                        If you have never played in a Hexversi Tournament before, and you are the FIRST player to beat the AI, and you post a screenshot that you beat it, I will give you 200 Points. 9 other players will get 100, even if you have played in a Hexversi Tournament before.
                                        Last edited by JohnGalt2341; 09-03-22, 08:53 PM. Reason: Significance of Corners
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                                        • blankoblanco
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 11-18-11
                                          • 3491

                                          #21
                                          Alright, I'm only throwing my hat in the ring because there have been so many guesses already..

                                          F2. If it were purple's turn right now they would have exactly 2 available moves. F2 has the neat property of eliminating one of those, so purple is forced to play the space directly left of it, no other option. This gives green the SE corner, leading directly to both the East and SW corners, and eventually gives them total control of the board

                                          It's always good to look for knockout moves like this when your opponent's pieces are mostly on the outside and they have very few available moves!
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                                          • Housemoney
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 09-17-09
                                            • 3912

                                            #22
                                            Beat the ai on 3rd try by capturing corners let me figure out how to post screenshot.

                                            I did play in a tournament with you before but didn’t like the slow back and forth moves.
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                                            • Housemoney
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                                              • 09-17-09
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                                              #23
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                                              • JohnGalt2341
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by blankoblanco
                                                Alright, I'm only throwing my hat in the ring because there have been so many guesses already..

                                                F2. If it were purple's turn right now they would have exactly 2 available moves. F2 has the neat property of eliminating one of those, so purple is forced to play the space directly left of it, no other option. This gives green the SE corner, leading directly to both the East and SW corners, and eventually gives them total control of the board

                                                It's always good to look for knockout moves like this when your opponent's pieces are mostly on the outside and they have very few available moves!
                                                We have a Winner!! blanko explained it well, but I'm going to go ahead and it explain it again anyway. Green playing f2, leaves Purple with exactly ONE option at e3 in the image below. This will give Green the SE corner, as well as the SW corner and the Eastern corner. Now, look at image #2.


                                                The image below is right after Purple played e3. And now as you can see, Green is going to get the SE corner, as well as the Eastern corner, as well as the SW corner, AND... Green has SEVERAL other options as well.... I didn't fill in all of the notation for Green... but Green is in COMPLETE control of this game right now because Green gets to pick and choose which moves Green gives to Purple for the remainder of the game. Purple has exactly 2 options as seen below. They are b6, and j2. Both of which are TERRIBLE. Btw... Green doesn't have moves at a6 and k1 just yet in these images... but they will shortly. This game is going to be a blowout.


                                                I'm going to set a limit of 100 points per player on these puzzles and blanko has reached his limit. You guys are on your own now! If anyone has ANY questions, let me know!
                                                Last edited by JohnGalt2341; 09-03-22, 08:30 PM.
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                                                • JohnGalt2341
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Housemoney
                                                  Beat the ai on 3rd try by capturing corners let me figure out how to post screenshot.

                                                  I did play in a tournament with you before but didn’t like the slow back and forth moves.
                                                  Originally posted by Housemoney
                                                  Well done!

                                                  I'm going to allow this, but for the future players, I ask that you take the screenshot before your last move of the game so the board doesn't get covered up like this. I'll be able to figure out the total.
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                                                  • Housemoney
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                                                    • 09-17-09
                                                    • 3912

                                                    #26
                                                    Thanks for the points John, maybe they will be worth something soon. I will probably play the ai again when no football and not drinking. You saw I only won by a narrow margin.
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                                                    • blankoblanco
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 11-18-11
                                                      • 3491

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by JohnGalt2341
                                                      I'm going to set a limit of 100 points per player on these puzzles and blanko has reached his limit. You guys are on your own now! If anyone has ANY questions, let me know!
                                                      Thanks for the points again John! You've been more than generous

                                                      I will only offer my explanations on a pro bono basis from now on But seriously, I do want more people to get engaged and have a chance to guess, so I will try to be very patient and stay out of the way unless nobody is biting at all for an extended period of time. The puzzles are definitely fun for me though, I hope you keep them up, even if I don't answer
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                                                      • JohnGalt2341
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                                                        • 12-31-09
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by blankoblanco
                                                        Thanks for the points again John! You've been more than generous

                                                        I will only offer my explanations on a pro bono basis from now on But seriously, I do want more people to get engaged and have a chance to guess, so I will try to be very patient and stay out of the way unless nobody is biting at all for an extended period of time. The puzzles are definitely fun for me though, I hope you keep them up, even if I don't answer
                                                        It was perfect timing on this one actually. I was thinking of giving the answer myself and letting the points carry over for the next one. I'll probably do another one either tomorrow or Monday. I still do them occasionally at the Othello Academy Discord but it's so damn hard to find good puzzles for those guys lol...
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                                                        • jackpot269
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                                                          • 09-24-07
                                                          • 12840

                                                          #29
                                                          I didn't b think it was f2 because you are turning chips in two direction
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                                                          • jackpot269
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                                                            • 09-24-07
                                                            • 12840

                                                            #30
                                                            Hexversi album hosted in ImgBB
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                                                            • jackpot269
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                                                              • 09-24-07
                                                              • 12840

                                                              #31
                                                              https://ibb.co/YTHv4BW

                                                              Here is one before last move
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                                                              • JohnGalt2341
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by jackpot269
                                                                https://ibb.co/YTHv4BW

                                                                Here is one before last move
                                                                I blew it up for you. This would have been 57-32. Nice Win! Well done! Points paid.

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                                                                • Ian
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                                                                  • 11-09-09
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by blankoblanco
                                                                  Thanks for the points again John! You've been more than generous

                                                                  I will only offer my explanations on a pro bono basis from now on But seriously, I do want more people to get engaged and have a chance to guess, so I will try to be very patient and stay out of the way unless nobody is biting at all for an extended period of time. The puzzles are definitely fun for me though, I hope you keep them up, even if I don't answer
                                                                  I appreciate your explanation, blanco. When I first looked at the position I didn't realize the f2 position would get retaken by purple on the next move because of the edge piece. Your explanation caused me to look more closely at it... I need to get better at reading the board and posts like yours and JohnGalt's make that a little easier.
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                                                                  • jackpot269
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                                                                    • 09-24-07
                                                                    • 12840

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by JohnGalt2341
                                                                    I blew it up for you. This would have been 57-32. Nice Win! Well done! Points paid.


                                                                    Thanks John
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                                                                    • Ian
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                                                                      • 11-09-09
                                                                      • 6066

                                                                      #35
                                                                      It took me 3 times to remember to take the screenshot before the last move.

                                                                      EDIT: And apparently 2 times to remember how to post an image to the forum.

                                                                      It's a 27 point win fwiw
                                                                      Last edited by Ian; 09-04-22, 01:37 PM.
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