UCLA & USC planning to leave PAC-12 to Big Ten

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  • 209 Life
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    #1
    UCLA & USC planning to leave PAC-12 to Big Ten
    Wow that would be a massive shift. Does PAC-12 scoop up some MWC teams if UCLA & USC Leave?


    USC and UCLA are two of the Pac-12's most valuable brands, both in terms of success and visibility. Their entries into the Big Ten would create a cross-continental superconference on par with the expanding SEC. Both would stand at 16 teams after USC and UCLA move to the Big Ten as Texas and Oklahoma enter the SEC, which is slated to happen in 2025.
    When word word leaked that the Longhorns and Sooners intended to leave the Big 12, it created a firestorm of backlash from those left behind in the conference, especially from the other schools within their states. In other words, expect Cal in particular to be on the offensive, especially since it is part of the University of California system along with UCLA.
    Considering that the Pac-12 has already struggled in highly visible and profitable sports like football and men's basketball in recent years, the exodus of two powers would be a potentially gutting blow. As this latest realignment saga plays out
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    #2
    USC and UCLA get you the TV money you are looking for and then you add the Pac 12 teams that you want since you have the dough for it. They will also add Washington and Oregon and probably Stanford and Cal for reputation.

    Then Arizona, Arizona State, Utah and Colorado all bolt for the Big 12.

    Washington State and Oregon State probably wind up in the Mountain West.
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    • Accrued Interest
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      #3
      This is also probably why Texas put off going to the SEC to 2024 because they knew all this was coming.
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      • jjgold
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        #4
        Damn joke

        I will never accept them in Big10
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        • Accrued Interest
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          #5
          They will not really be a part of the Big 10 in reality. It will be like the SEC where teams do not even play one another for 10 years. You will have the Pac 12 division and they will play one of the other divisions and then a couple of non-conference games. Basically no difference except you make a whole lot more money.
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          • Brock Landers
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            Should this latest round of conference realignment take place, however, the Big Ten would stretch from Piscataway, N.J., to Los Angeles — a mere 2,700 miles and change. Notably, such a move would mean the Big Ten would have a presence in the three biggest TV markets in the country in New York, Los Angeles and Chicago. A boon for the conference as it negotiates a new media rights deal.
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            • Accrued Interest
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              #7
              This is the USFL. They just added a Pacific division.
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              • TheMoneyShot
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                #8
                I can't see the Big Ten accepting this. Super strange.
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                • Accrued Interest
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                  #9
                  It's all about money. The Big 10 is initiating this. You have a nationwide super-conference and all the schools make millions more. This settles the college football landscape. It is the last shoe to drop.
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                  • Brock Landers
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
                    I can't see the Big Ten accepting this. Super strange.
                    Huh? They add LA TV market, all that matters
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                    • Brock Landers
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Accrued Interest
                      It's all about money. The Big 10 is initiating this. You have a nationwide super-conference and all the schools make millions more. This settles the college football landscape. It is the last shoe to drop.
                      Nope

                      Now the pac12 has to poach the mountain west
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                      • Accrued Interest
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                        #12
                        The Pac 12 had to go because the TV execs did not like the start times. So they play these games late afternoon and mix in a few late nights for fun. The Big 10 gets to the level of the SEC in terms of dollars or maybe more.
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                        • Brock Landers
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Accrued Interest
                          The Pac 12 had to go because the TV execs did not like the start times. So they play these games late afternoon and mix in a few late nights for fun. The Big 10 gets to the level of the SEC in terms of dollars or maybe more.
                          The SEC has nothing in the way of large markets like the big 10 does
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Brock Landers
                            The SEC has nothing in the way of large markets like the big 10 does
                            Maybe. But they make more money right now. But probably not for long with this.
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                            • BriGuy
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Accrued Interest
                              They will not really be a part of the Big 10 in reality. It will be like the SEC where teams do not even play one another for 10 years. You will have the Pac 12 division and they will play one of the other divisions and then a couple of non-conference games. Basically no difference except you make a whole lot more money.
                              The SEC will likely transition to a 3-6-6 format so while each SEC team will have far fewer annual opponents, they will see the rest of the conference far, far more often. Gone are the days of seeing certain opponents only once every 10 years (which is actually once every 6 years, but I digress)
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                                So now all these games that were not attractive as late night games, now become attractive because you get rid of all the teams you had to accommodate before and you just televise the best games. All those teams go over to the Big 12 and you never have to show another Washington State or Oregon State game again except on the sub-channels.
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                                • ChuckyTheGoat
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Brock Landers
                                  Should this latest round of conference realignment take place, however, the Big Ten would stretch from Piscataway, N.J., to Los Angeles — a mere 2,700 miles and change. Notably, such a move would mean the Big Ten would have a presence in the three biggest TV markets in the country in New York, Los Angeles and Chicago. A boon for the conference as it negotiates a new media rights deal.
                                  One question, as it relates to Coll Bask:

                                  *Would USC/UCLA now be travel partners for the weekend action?

                                  IE, travel east for Thurs: USC@Iowa and UCLA@Minn. SAT/SUN = USC@Minn and UCLA@Iowa.

                                  This is cool for Coll Bask and even Coll FB. Brutal for the non-revenue sports.
                                  Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                                    #18
                                    Probably the way they make up for travel is they make all their non-divisional games regional. So California teams probably never leave California except for conference out of division games.
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                                    • Brock Landers
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                                      #19
                                      Forget conferences

                                      It's the big 30 or so teams and everybody else.

                                      Just hope your school (looking at you Vanderbilt) is not kicked the f uck out in the process.

                                      Who cares about Texas tech or Kansas football? Duke football, ILLINOIS football is terrible....
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                                      • homie1975
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                                        #20
                                        2016 called, when Oklahoma was supposedly leaving to the Pac 10.

                                        did that ever happen?




                                        i'll believe U$C and UCLA are in the B1G when I actually see it.
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                                        • Brock Landers
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by homie1975
                                          2016 called, when Oklahoma was supposedly leaving to the Pac 10.

                                          did that ever happen?




                                          i'll believe U$C and UCLA are in the B1G when I actually see it.
                                          Will be announced tomorrow pal
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                                          • Accrued Interest
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                                            #22
                                            This is different though. Because the Pac 12 has big TV problems. They needed out. The times have changed. This is huge money now. It was just big money back then. This basically settles college sports for a while.
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                                            • ChuckyTheGoat
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Brock Landers
                                              Forget conferences

                                              It's the big 30 or so teams and everybody else.

                                              Just hope your school (looking at you Vanderbilt) is not kicked the f uck out in the process.

                                              Who cares about Texas tech or Kansas football? Duke football, ILLINOIS football is terrible....
                                              Yes, Brock, but TX Tech has had some good teams. Even KS has had good teams. I really think Coll Football FBS should split in half.

                                              In round numbers, it should 64 + 64. Top 64 compete in 1a within four 16-team conferences.

                                              1b should compete regionally in 8 traditional 8-team conferences. Give those teams a chance to win a title, which is really not possible right now.
                                              Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                                                #24
                                                That is basically what you have already. Nobody wants to watch a second tier college football. The Big 12 and ACC will still be able to hang with these teams. Not much is really changing.

                                                You've got all these transfers now where guys are leaving elite programs. Some of those guys are going to be better than the guys that got chosen ahead of them.

                                                Things never work out as intended or expected.
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                                                • 209 Life
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                                                  #25
                                                  Time for Fresno St, San Diego St & Boise St to go into Power-5 league
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                                                  • Brock Landers
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                                                    #26
                                                    Done deal

                                                    That was lightening fast!

                                                    USC and UCLA were notified Thursday night that their application to join the Big Ten has been accepted.
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                                                    • homie1975
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Brock Landers
                                                      Done deal

                                                      That was lightening fast!

                                                      https://www.espn.com/college-sports/...pac-12-big-ten

                                                      the two schools applied,
                                                      they were accepted tonight,
                                                      now the two schools have to formally accept the acceptance, correct?
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                                                      • TheMoneyShot
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Brock Landers
                                                        Huh? They add LA TV market, all that matters
                                                        I just never anticipated the BIG TEN would want Pacific teams? Just strange to me...

                                                        If we're basing this just on LA Markets... I guess it's a good point? FOX Sports will be pissed off though... I think they have rights to the PAC-12 games? With UCLA and USC leaving.... basically leaves you watching garbage. lol
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                                                        • Brock Landers
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
                                                          I just never anticipated the BIG TEN would want Pacific teams? Just strange to me...

                                                          If we're basing this just on LA Markets... I guess it's a good point? FOX Sports will be pissed off though... I think they have rights to the PAC-12 games? With UCLA and USC leaving.... basically leaves you watching garbage. lol
                                                          It's just astonishing how fast this happened

                                                          Can't be done either
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                                                          • gauchojake
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                                                            #30
                                                            Has Larry Scott been drawn and quartered yet????
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                                                            • Mr KLC
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                                                              #31
                                                              Now do Oregon and Washington come together and request Big 10 membership? They are both AAU schools also.
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                                                              • 209 Life
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Mr KLC
                                                                Now do Oregon and Washington come together and request Big 10 membership? They are both AAU schools also.
                                                                I think that's the next domino to fall
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                                                                • mjsuax13
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Mr KLC
                                                                  Now do Oregon and Washington come together and request Big 10 membership? They are both AAU schools also.
                                                                  Yes, kingpin TV markets.
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                                                                  • homie1975
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Brock Landers
                                                                    It's just astonishing how fast this happened

                                                                    Can't be done either
                                                                    fast for us but not fast at all behind the scenes. it was simply kept a secret.

                                                                    the planning and backroom discussions had to have been going on for mos.
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                                                                    • homie1975
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
                                                                      I just never anticipated the BIG TEN would want Pacific teams? Just strange to me...

                                                                      If we're basing this just on LA Markets... I guess it's a good point? FOX Sports will be pissed off though... I think they have rights to the PAC-12 games? With UCLA and USC leaving.... basically leaves you watching garbage. lol
                                                                      they added Rutgers and Maryland some years ago so why not the Left Coast which is the Best Coast?
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