Originally posted by Fishhead
MGM Not a bad USA book
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CanuckGSBR Posting Legend
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#36Only thing circa lacks are markets. Pinny and bookmaker has way more to offer.Comment -
FishheadSBR Aristocracy- 08-11-05
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#37MGM goes to 25 cent baseball lines at -145..........JOKE
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jjgoldSBR Aristocracy
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#38Wow
Euro management destroying usa booksComment -
KVBSBR Aristocracy
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#39There are so many bettors that don't even consider price.Originally posted by FishheadMGM goes to 25 cent baseball lines at -145..........JOKE

And there some houses that simply don't want the rest of us as customers.Comment -
FishheadSBR Aristocracy- 08-11-05
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#40Mgm
Phils -145
Dbacks +120
Betonline
Phils -137
Dbacks +127Comment -
jjgoldSBR Aristocracy
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#41Fisher
Do you know how many suckers are betting bad lines they have no understanding of math
You cannot bet $.20 lines or more baseball you’re just burning moneyComment -
loser711SBR High Roller
- 06-20-19
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#42Wrong, the way it's always been. Much preferred is Square action. Only way this will stop is with legislation. But the legislators are most likely greased, so don't hold your breath!Originally posted by d2betsIt is hilarious. Eventually there will be nobody left betting much and their volume will dry up. If you're a book, then book. MGM is afraid of it's own shadow. I guess you remain King by keeping the riff raff away?Comment -
budwiserSBR MVP
- 11-22-11
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#43It's the CEOs.
The issue is if the manager takes a $500k bet and wins, who cares. If the bet loses, he has to explain it to the idiot up the chain (how could you do such a thing).
That's the way it is not only at books, but in life. Politicians don't know what they're doing either-suddenly lawyers become experts in science and foreign policy.Comment -
jjgoldSBR Aristocracy
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#44The Euro model is really hurting USA books image
Negativity really spreadingComment -
budwiserSBR MVP
- 11-22-11
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#45Yeah once you get a reputation, good or bad, it's real hard to shake that. Which is good if you have a good reputation, bad if you don't.Originally posted by jjgoldThe Euro model is really hurting USA books image
Negativity really spreading
The books with poor CEOs will be out of business soon. DraftKings will be sold to someone else, because the CEO is determined to spend a billion on marketing in 2021 but take as little action as possible, using FanDoo as the model (Robins is a fool). Caesars will be around, MGM will be around, because people can trust those books. No funny business. If Circa is trusted, they'll stick around.
Books fail over and over again that try not to payout, and try to get only squares to bet. SBR has ratings on these books. SBR has online books in the hundreds on avoid or blacklist.Comment -
budwiserSBR MVP
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#46The way it has always been for successful books is they use both sharps and squares, so they know what they are doing. If your business model is to take square money only, you p ing into the wind/you have no idea where you are headed.Originally posted by loser711Wrong, the way it's always been. Much preferred is Square action. Only way this will stop is with legislation. But the legislators are most likely greased, so don't hold your breath!
But, why should i give any of these CEOs advice. They obviously know what they are doing, or they wouldn't be running their book. Credit to them.Comment -
jjgoldSBR Aristocracy
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#47THe majority of these usa books just started copying each other high juice and super quick to limit regardless of type of player it must be profitable or at least now way they loseComment -
budwiserSBR MVP
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#48Let's see who's around in a few years. DraftKings who started out with marketing $1 billion and focuses on having margins as good as FanDuel, or Circa who started out small.
The customer is always right. The customer pays for the service. If the customer thinks the service is shady, word gets around, and you're out of business. Happens all the time.Comment -
jjgoldSBR Aristocracy
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#49it will be interestingOriginally posted by budwiserLet's see who's around in a few years. DraftKings who started out with marketing $1 billion and focuses on having margins as good as FanDuel, or Circa who started out small.
The customer is always right. The customer pays for the service. If the customer thinks the service is shady, word gets around, and you're out of business. Happens all the time.Comment -
d2betsBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 08-10-05
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#50That's not how most suckers are burning money. They're betting terrible parlays lines, that's how. The hold rate tells the story. Doesn't mean it's impossible to build a good parlay, but almost nobody knows how or cares to know.Originally posted by jjgoldFisher
Do you know how many suckers are betting bad lines they have no understanding of math
You cannot bet $.20 lines or more baseball you’re just burning moneyComment -
FishheadSBR Aristocracy- 08-11-05
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#51Crypto and futures taking a BEATING right nowOriginally posted by jjgoldit will be interesting
wowowowowowowowowoowowowow
LET'S GO BRANDON!!!Comment -
budwiserSBR MVP
- 11-22-11
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#52lot of republicans were disappointed in Biden winning. I said this could be the greatest thing to ever happen to Republicans, an 8-year Trump term beginning in 2024 and control of Congress. You could see this coming. The guy can barely get through a teleprompter and the Vice Prez is not going to take over. Dems really set themselves up in an awful way, without realizing it-just to get Trump out of office. Would have been better for them if Trump won, took the blame. this is already ugly, going to get worseOriginally posted by FishheadCrypto and futures taking a BEATING right now
wowowowowowowowowoowowowow
LET'S GO BRANDON!!!
how about el salvador, the president got 83% of the vote, bet on bitcoin, made it legal tender there, now el salvador may default on their debt.
you can't make this s upComment -
budwiserSBR MVP
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#53there's only so much $ you can get out of a "squares only" bookOriginally posted by d2betsThat's not how most suckers are burning money. They're betting terrible parlays lines, that's how. The hold rate tells the story. Doesn't mean it's impossible to build a good parlay, but almost nobody knows how or cares to know.Comment -
creedSBR High Roller
- 12-08-09
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#54This is a whole different party.Companies like draftkings want the $1 $2 parlay player figures instead playing the lottery play a parlay. BOOKMAKING whats that ? They have no clueComment -
FishheadSBR Aristocracy- 08-11-05
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#55Originally posted by budwiserlot of republicans were disappointed in Biden winning. I said this could be the greatest thing to ever happen to Republicans, an 8-year Trump term beginning in 2024 and control of Congress. You could see this coming. The guy can barely get through a teleprompter and the Vice Prez is not going to take over. Dems really set themselves up in an awful way, without realizing it-just to get Trump out of office. Would have been better for them if Trump won, took the blame. this is already ugly, going to get worse

how about el salvador, the president got 83% of the vote, bet on bitcoin, made it legal tender there, now el salvador may default on their debt.
you can't make this s up
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jjgoldSBR Aristocracy
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#56Trump 2024
MGM Vegas never blinked 10k baseball bets ML when I was there 2015
Dead book now $100
MaxComment -
dynamite140SBR MVP
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#57MGM is using the same/exact odds as their non US sites such as party and bwin?Comment -
jjgoldSBR Aristocracy
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#58closeOriginally posted by dynamite140MGM is using the same/exact odds as their non US sites such as party and bwin?Comment -
pologqSBR Posting Legend- 10-07-12
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#59the mgm site is the one that is affiliated with borgata right?Comment -
jjgoldSBR Aristocracy
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#60I think soComment -
stevexSBR Hall of Famer
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#61Correct.Originally posted by pologqthe mgm site is the one that is affiliated with borgata right?Comment -
pologqSBR Posting Legend- 10-07-12
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#62do people earn good rewards on there? i like the borgata so maybe it pays to play there.Originally posted by stevexCorrect.Comment -
Waterstpub87SBR MVP
- 09-09-09
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#63It's ok. I find Caesars to be a little bit better. The free bet rewards are similar. Betmgm rewards was comping mid week rooms. Caesars gives you a free room in AC for every 5,000 points plus promo rates at down times.Originally posted by pologqdo people earn good rewards on there? i like the borgata so maybe it pays to play there.
I'm limited to $20 on everything on Betmgm at this point. Frustrating, but I wouldn't want me as a customer either. No limits on Caesars as of yet.Comment -
d2betsBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 08-10-05
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#64So it's Biden's fault that MGM are pussies?Originally posted by jjgoldTrump 2024
MGM Vegas never blinked 10k baseball bets ML when I was there 2015
Dead book now $100
Max
I've heard it all now.Comment -
jjgoldSBR Aristocracy
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#65Perks wise them and DK are closeComment -
pologqSBR Posting Legend- 10-07-12
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#66thanks for the info on bothOriginally posted by Waterstpub87It's ok. I find Caesars to be a little bit better. The free bet rewards are similar. Betmgm rewards was comping mid week rooms. Caesars gives you a free room in AC for every 5,000 points plus promo rates at down times.
I'm limited to $20 on everything on Betmgm at this point. Frustrating, but I wouldn't want me as a customer either. No limits on Caesars as of yet.Comment
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