4 tradition-rich College Football programs I expect to make a big move up............

[mjsuax13]

Is this some kind of joke, or are you just trying to show us exactly how little you know about College Football. Here is what I will do, though I doubt that you will take this wager. Like 99% of the rest of the know-nothings in here, you are too chicken dodo to take this wager. I will wager you 1000 betpoints that at least 3 of those 4 teams lose 3 or more games. Yes or no? Let's see what you are really made of.

Let’s pick 5 games per week ATS, $5k buy in, winner take all. Me VS YOU scumbag creep. I’ve watched you get your ass handed to you all over this site. If you don’t like those terms, go fukk yourself.

[homie1975]

Let’s pick 5 games per week ATS, $5k buy in, winner take all. Me VS YOU scumbag creep. I’ve watched you get your ass handed to you all over this site. If you don’t like those terms, go fukk yourself.

BIG JERK-OFF under pressure from all sides here

[Mac4Lyfe]

I tell you who I see NOT rising this year: Clemson and Alabama. Each team has an O/U of 11'. I plan to bet both unders very heavy. They've both lost a ton of talent.
I just don't see any way they BOTH go undefeated in the regular season (despite how dominant each team has been the past 6 years, they've only BOTH gone undefeated in the same regular season ONCE). Just one loss between those 2 teams and all you lose is the juice, which I grant you is a little heavier than -110.
Get each team to lose and you've made some big money. If I bet a dime on each, the way I see it, worst case scenario is I lose the juice (around $300), but there is a real chance I win $2,000.

Heritage have both Bama and Clemson over/under at 11.5. The under is like -140 for each. It's worth a shot as both teams have to be perfect each week for the entire season with new QBs. Clemson's toughest challenge will be opening week against Georgia. They win that game, they have a great shot at going undefeated IMO. Bama has the much tougher road. They go through a murderers row of games in the SEC west, especially against Arkansas (trap game), Ole Miss, TAM, LSU and Auburn plus they play Florida.

Gun to head, I'd put more money on Bama losing a game than Clemson. That Clemson schedule is a fukking joke. After Georgia, the 2 best teams they play are Boston College and NC State. Good grief.

The only problem with these bets are do you really think they will play all 12 games? I think both teams will get 1 or 2 games cancelled due to covid.

[BriGuy]

Heritage have both Bama and Clemson over/under at 11.5. The under is like -140 for each. It's worth a shot as both teams have to be perfect each week for the entire season with new QBs. Clemson's toughest challenge will be opening week against Georgia. They win that game, they have a great shot at going undefeated IMO. Bama has the much tougher road. They go through a murderers row of games in the SEC west, especially against Arkansas (trap game), Ole Miss, TAM, LSU and Auburn plus they play Florida.

Gun to head, I'd put more money on Bama losing a game than Clemson. That Clemson schedule is a fukking joke. After Georgia, the 2 best teams they play are Boston College and NC State. Good grief.

The only problem with these bets are do you really think they will play all 12 games? I think both teams will get 1 or 2 games cancelled due to covid.

Yes, the possibility of no action is a very real one if a game is missed. And I know Clemson has an easy schedule (after UGA) but they could easily slip up against a weaker team. I remember they lost straight up to Syracuse a couple years ago. I think they were a 28 point favorite or something like that....

[homie1975]

Yes, the possibility of no action is a very real one if a game is missed. And I know Clemson has an easy schedule (after UGA) but they could easily slip up against a weaker team. I remember they lost straight up to Syracuse a couple years ago. I think they were a 28 point favorite or something like that....

If either school loses at least one game that goes the requisite 55 mins to be considered a full game in the record books then imo the sportsbook should pay out on under 11.5 reg season because the best that could happen is 11-1 and your under bet is a winner right after the 1st loss.

[Mac4Lyfe]

If either school loses at least one game that goes the requisite 55 mins to be considered a full game in the record books then imo the sportsbook should pay out on under 11.5 reg season because the best that could happen is 11-1 and your under bet is a winner right after the 1st loss.

I really think Georgia will burst Clemson's bubble in the first game.

You would think the books would grade it as a winner but the bet clearly says that all games must be played. I wouldn't hold my breath.

[homie1975]

I really think Georgia will burst Clemson's bubble in the first game.

You would think the books would grade it as a winner but the bet clearly says that all games must be played. I wouldn't hold my breath.

could certainly happen but i would not go crazy betting on it. JT vs DJ but the other 42 players on O and D plus the ST's will have a big say in it.

[RoyBacon]

Heritage have both Bama and Clemson over/under at 11.5. The under is like -140 for each. It's worth a shot as both teams have to be perfect each week for the entire season with new QBs. Clemson's toughest challenge will be opening week against Georgia. They win that game, they have a great shot at going undefeated IMO. Bama has the much tougher road. They go through a murderers row of games in the SEC west, especially against Arkansas (trap game), Ole Miss, TAM, LSU and Auburn plus they play Florida.

Gun to head, I'd put more money on Bama losing a game than Clemson. That Clemson schedule is a fukking joke. After Georgia, the 2 best teams they play are Boston College and NC State. Good grief.

The only problem with these bets are do you really think they will play all 12 games? I think both teams will get 1 or 2 games cancelled due to covid.

I almost spit my Positive Water drink when I read this; Bama has the much tougher road. They go through a murderers row of games in the SEC west, especially against Arkansas (trap game)

Homie are you a Hog by any chance?????

I believe Bama survived LY matchup 52 - 3.

[homie1975]

I almost spit my Positive Water drink when I read this; Bama has the much tougher road. They go through a murderers row of games in the SEC west, especially against Arkansas (trap game)

Homie are you a Hog by any chance?????

I believe Bama survived LY matchup 52 - 3.

No Sir i just love CFB and follow over 100 teams around the country

[RoyBacon]

No Sir i just love CFB and follow over 100 teams around the country

OHHH kay. I know you had Ark beating Texas too so just wondering.

Bama's second team on the freshman squad would be a PK vs Ark.

[homie1975]

OHHH kay. I know you had Ark beating Texas too so just wondering.

Bama's second team on the freshman squad would be a PK vs Ark.

i rate certain games as coin flips, i have that one a near coin flip. TX is - 3.5. very low, just like i said it would be.

TEXAS sched, and my opinion on W, L or Coinflip, but all that matters is final record, no matter how they weave and curve in and out to it.

serious injuries to them and/or the opponents, notwithstanding:

v UL = Win
@ Arkie = coinflip (Hogs better than you think)
v Rice = Win
v TTU = Win (tricky Red raider team but Win)
@ TCU = Loss (horny frogs go to 8-3 v texas in last 11)
v OU = Loss (goodnight Irene if OU QB spencer is healthy)
v Okie State = coinflip (young Cowboy O grows up by week 7-8)
@ Baylor = Loss (aranda will have home team ready)
v KU = Win
@ WVU = Loss (late Nov, long trip to morgantown, look out)
@ ISU = Loss (if ISU healthy they SMASH texas by DD)
v KSU = coinflip (wildcats not mildcats under this coach. trust me)

4 wins, 5 losses, and 3 coinflips

at 2-1 in the coinflips they go 6-6

bad luck on the flips they are 5-7

good luck on those 7-5

swing of 2 games from 5-7 to 7-5

i will go 7-5 because the new QB looks pretty decent and SARK can coach

8-4 or 9-3 ??

SARK should Win coach of the year in the BIG 12 if 9-3 or better, if the coaches and writers know a lick about the game

MY FINAL PICK: 7-5

[homie1975]

OHHH kay. I know you had Ark beating Texas too so just wondering.

Bama's second team on the freshman squad would be a PK vs Ark.

BACON i will find you that week LOL

[RoyBacon]

BACON i will find you that week LOL

Maybe it will be closer than 52-3, maybe that's what you're trying to say??? Maybe 45-17? But to say that's a tough game for a legit top 5 team is wayyy beyond the pail.

I remember the last time Ark beat bama in the early 2000's. Bama missed 3 short FG's and a PAT and lost in OT.

As far as Texas;

Too many unknowns. New coaches, new QB. TX gifted TCU a win LY so that will be close. Baylor is tough in Waco so that's a toss. The UL game is a toss too and OU is a loss. They beat WV and OSU like they do every year.

Word out of Austin is the QB looks great and the defense, which was very good LY, is even better. My best guess is they will lose 3 or 4 games.

[homie1975]

Maybe it will be closer than 52-3, maybe that's what you're trying to say??? Maybe 45-17? But to say that's a tough game for a legit top 5 team is wayyy beyond the pail.

I remember the last time Ark beat bama in the early 2000's. Bama missed 3 short FG's and a PAT and lost in OT.

As far as Texas;

Too many unknowns. New coaches, new QB. TX gifted TCU a win LY so that will be close. Baylor is tough in Waco so that's a toss. The UL game is a toss too and OU is a loss. They beat WV and OSU like they do every year.

Word out of Austin is the QB looks great and the defense, which was very good LY, is even better. My best guess is they will lose 3 or 4 games.

ROYer
you are getting your wires crossed.

MACker said Bama v Arkie is a trap game. Not me LOL

I like Arkie to battle TX pretty good in week 2 and i am calling that a toss up game.

I am NOT calling Bama v Arkie a trap game LOL

[Mac4Lyfe]

I almost spit my Positive Water drink when I read this; Bama has the much tougher road. They go through a murderers row of games in the SEC west, especially against Arkansas (trap game)

Homie are you a Hog by any chance?????

I believe Bama survived LY matchup 52 - 3.

Bacon… One thing I know is college football players. I also know possible bad spots and that is a bad spot for Bama, no matter what people think. Saban is the best in preparing his teams for those spots but even he can’t coach past human nature. I’m telling you months in advance that Bama will not cover the spread. Arkansas will surprise a lot of people. If the QB can be more productive, watch out. They have good RBs, a stud WR. But they will stand out on defense. They probably have the 2 best LBs in the SEC, their DLine is beastly as well. They’ll be much better than last year.


My point was that Bama has to play a bunch of physical, grind it out teams back to back to back. The SEC is a grind and you have very little time to heal up after a bruising game a few days ago. The ACC is just not on par with the SEC West and it’s not really close.

[homie1975]

Bacon… One thing I know is college football players. I also know possible bad spots and that is a bad spot for Bama, no matter what people think. Saban is the best in preparing his teams for those spots but even he can’t coach past human nature. I’m telling you months in advance that Bama will not cover the spread. Arkansas will surprise a lot of people. If the QB can be more productive, watch out. They have good RBs, a stud WR. But they will stand out on defense. They probably have the 2 best LBs in the SEC, their DLine is beastly as well. They’ll be much better than last year.


My point was that Bama has to play a bunch of physical, grind it out teams back to back to back. The SEC is a grind and you have very little time to heal up after a bruising game a few days ago. The ACC is just not on par with the SEC West and it’s not really close.

I agree that Arkie could be a surprise team and they are a very live and short dog v texas

[RoyBacon]

ROYer
you are getting your wires crossed.

MACker said Bama v Arkie is a trap game. Not me LOL

I like Arkie to battle TX pretty good in week 2 and i am calling that a toss up game.

I am NOT calling Bama v Arkie a trap game LOL

My apologies. I'm getting my Hogs mixed up.

Ark will be about the same. A decent team. They bring back the entire defense but is that great news when that group gave up 50, 63, 27 and 52 to close out '20?

[Mac4Lyfe]

OHHH kay. I know you had Ark beating Texas too so just wondering.Bama's second team on the freshman squad would be a PK vs Ark.

If the better talent always won, we wouldn’t have to play the games. Of course Bama is the better team but that game is no gimme. In a perfect storm that could be an L. Most importantly, they then have to play Auburn the very next week. They lose that game most people will be crediting Auburn but in reality Arkansas would be the reason they lost. Look at teams that run the option. If you are not use to defending it, it can give you fits. Most smart teams schedule option teams after a bye to have an extra week to prepare. But teams also struggle the week after playing option teams.

[homie1975]

My apologies. I'm getting my Hogs mixed up.

Ark will be about the same. A decent team. They bring back the entire defense but is that great news when that group gave up 50, 63, 27 and 52 to close out '20?

Year 2 under a new coach *usually means improvement"

10 returning starters stronger after a full year of lifting and all that game experience *usually means better"

They were 3-7 last year and a few whispers from 6-4

I'll predict they are bowl eligible this season.

[homie1975]

My apologies. I'm getting my Hogs mixed up.

Ark will be about the same. A decent team. They bring back the entire defense but is that great news when that group gave up 50, 63, 27 and 52 to close out '20?

At then #6 florida and vs then #1 and eventual champion bama are forgivable.

27 to LSU not bad.

50 spot at mizzu?

That was bad.

Dont be surprised if arlie looks like a very different team on 9/10 vs them Horns.

[Mac4Lyfe]

I think Arky may go 7-5 this year. Could beat Mizzou both MS teams, LSU or Au. Never discount the 2nd year coach. Great point.

[Mac4Lyfe]

Arky QB will be much better this year. He sucked on 3rd downs. They also poached several top players on the line from other SEC teams and transfer portal. Rabid fan base, tough place to play for opposing teams. Put them anywhere but the SECw and they would be competing for a conference title I think.

[homie1975]

I think Arky may go 7-5 this year. Could beat Mizzou both MS teams, LSU or Au. Never discount the 2nd year coach. Great point.

I like year 3 under a solid new coach the best out of the first 3 years but year 2 definitely tends to yield pretty good improvement as the players understand the new schemes better and the coaches know the players better and where and how to put guys in the best positions to exploit their skills to make plays.

[Mac4Lyfe]

I think this article was back in 2008 but really showed the huge jump several coaches made in their 2nd year. I’ve always thought if a coach couldn’t turn it around in year 2, they weren’t going to do much. I think 1 or 2 coaches won titles in year 3 though.

Jim Tressel, Ohio State
2001 (7-5)...2002 **(14-0) and a Big Ten and National Championship

Nick Saban, LSU
2000 (8-4)...2001 (10-3) and an SEC Championship

Nick Saban, Alabama
2007 (7-6)...2008 (9-0) so far and #1 in the nation currently.

Joe Paterno, Penn State
1966 (5-5)...1967 (8-2)

Bobby Bowden, Florida State
1976 (5-6)...1977 (10-2)

Bob Stoops, Oklahoma
1999 (7-5)...2000 **(13-0) and a Big 12 and National Championship

Urban Meyer, Utah
2003 (10-2)...2004 (12-0) and a Mountain West Championship

Urban Meyer, Florida
2005 (10-3)...2006 **(13-1) and a SEC Championship and National Championship

Pete Carroll, USC
2001 (6-6)...2002 (11-2) and a PAC 10 Championship

Mark Richt, Georgia
2001 (8-4)...2002 **(13-1) and a SEC Championship

Tommy Tuberville, Auburn
1999 (5-6)...2000 (9-4) and a SEC West Championship

Butch Davis, North Carolina
2007 (4-8)...2008 (6-2) so far and a top 25 team.

Phillip Fulmer, Tennessee
1992 (4-0) as interim HC...1993 (10-2)

Steve Spurrier, Duke
1987 (5-6)...1988 (7-3-1)

Tommy Bowden, Tulane
1997 (7-4)...1998 **(11-0) and Conference USA Championship

Rich Rodriguez, West Virginia
2001 (3-8)...2002 (9-4)

Bobby Petrino, Louisville
2003 (9-4)...2004 (11-1) and a Conference USA Championship

Les Miles, Oklahoma State
2001 (4-7)...2002 (8-5)

Paul Johnson, Navy
2002 (2-10)...2003 (8-5)

Mark Mangino, Kansas
2002 (2-10)...2003 (6-7) Lost their bowl game, so 2-10 to a bowl game.

Gary Patterson, TCU
2001 (6-6)...2002 (10-2)

Gary Pinkel, Toledo
1991 (5-5)...1992 (8-3)


That's a good number of coaches that made significant jumps in wins from their first to second years as head coach. One thing that tells me is that the previous coach didn't leave the program in as bad as shape as what it seemed at the time.

[homie1975]

Great list MACker but that's a who's who of mostly CFB HOF coaches and the average cat cannot match that.

[homie1975]

Go big red

[Mac4Lyfe]

Great list MACker but that's a who's who of mostly CFB HOF coaches and the average cat cannot match that.

It just proves that if a coach can't turn it around in a couple years, they most likely are not going to be a HOF type coach. Guys like Muschamp, Sumlin, Tom Herman, Jim McElwain, Butch Jones, the list is long, may be good coaches but aren't going to be hall of famers.

[homie1975]

It just proves that if a coach can't turn it around in a couple years, they most likely are not going to be a HOF type coach. Guys like Muschamp, Sumlin, Tom Herman, Jim McElwain, Butch Jones, the list is long, may be good coaches but aren't going to be hall of famers.

that's okay, Hal Mumme turned around Kentucky with this air raid O and even though he will never touch the fall of fame in CFB, all of us who know the game, know his name.

Houston Nutt at Arkansas.

Joe Tiller at Purdue.

you get the point.........

[homie1975]

Huskers crapping the bed

[BigdaddyQH]

Pay up you worthless piece of sh*t before I have your face spread all over the pavement.

[BigdaddyQH]

Homie starts 0-1. When I tell you something, you had better listen you worthless chicken s**t. You lost straight up.

[Mac4Lyfe]

Homie starts 0-1. When I tell you something, you had better listen you worthless chicken s**t. You lost straight up.

What the fukkk? What do you think you told him? You didn't even call Illinois beating NB but you come in here running your trap? Lay off the meds.


Where do you get that Homie is 0-1? He never made a damn play you idiot. He simply said that he thought these 4 teams would make a move this year. You running your trap after one game.

[BigdaddyQH]

If you read the entire article, the wager is for 1000 points. That is a wager he is going to lose. If he fails to pay up, he is going to get the crap kicked out of him. Now you are next. You are either going to make a wager with me or get the crap kicked out of you. You fu**ing phonies are going to pay the price this season. Chicken out, like I am sure that you will, and I will kick your arse out of here. Name your wager big mouth. Name your price. You had better hope to hell that I do not like the wager because if I do and I accept it, you are going to lose. If you lose and fail to pay up, you will get the same treatment that all welshers get. Let's see how chicken s**t you really are.

[Mac4Lyfe]

If you read the entire article, the wager is for 1000 points. That is a wager he is going to lose. If he fails to pay up, he is going to get the crap kicked out of him. Now you are next. You are either going to make a wager with me or get the crap kicked out of you. You fu**ing phonies are going to pay the price this season. Chicken out, like I am sure that you will, and I will kick your arse out of here. Name your wager big mouth. Name your price. You had better hope to hell that I do not like the wager because if I do and I accept it, you are going to lose. If you lose and fail to pay up, you will get the same treatment that all welshers get. Let's see how chicken s**t you really are.

What article? What 1000 point wager???
I already gave you 2 wagers on page 2. Take one or you are a dumb fukk, chicken shit. Accept either wager or both or you are a known loser. Come at me bro. Go ahead and kick the crap out of me. I need to pay the price for my insolence.

Where the fukk do you make up these wagers? Out your ass???
Okay big shot. I bet you up to $10,000 that Bama beats Mercer, Southern Miss, Miami, Miss State, Ole Miss, Tenn and NM State. That's right, I bet they win all these games... 7-0. They win all 7 games. If they lose 1 of them, then you win. Call your shot. Make the bet or leave SBR in shame Mr big Shot.

Oh, I got another bet for you Bigdaddy... I bet Nebraska wins 3 games this year. I take Nebraska over 3 games. You have the under. Up to $500 Book it big money.

[homie1975]

Big Fatty conveniently missed ROYers great idea for a wager that I followed up with on a proposal but it's too late now because he never accepted lol

PHUKK U BIG FATTY !!!