ESPN requiring all employees to get the Covid shot

[Kermit]

Please DO follow the science.
Your article is bait and switch of the very worst kind.

It starts with an interview with a respected doctor at a respected University saying very reasonable things about not using the vaccine on kids. Well Derp! That's already the case. After the interview ends the article says 'and by the way natural antibodies are better than vaccine antibodies' and sources Arutz Sheva for the data. That source is a 'media network identifying with Religious Zionism'. It's not a science organisation and the claim it makes wasn't commented upon by the doctor interviewed in the article. Arutz Sheva merely claims 'numbers were given to the Israeli Health Ministry'. It doesn't say by whom or how the information was come by - which is not surprising.

It's not "bait & switch" the article is giving examples of who should and shouldn't be getting the vaccine.

Requiring the vaccine in people who are already immune with natural immunity has no scientific support. While vaccinating those people may be beneficial – and it's a reasonable hypothesis that vaccination may bolster the longevity of their immunity – to argue dogmatically that they must get vaccinated has zero clinical outcome data to back it. As a matter of fact, we have data to the contrary: A Cleveland Clinic study found that vaccinating people with natural immunity did not add to their level of protection.

No point vaccinating those who’ve had COVID-19: Cleveland Clinic study suggests

https://www.news-medical.net/news/20210608/No-point-vaccinating-those-whoe28099ve-had-COVID-19-Findings-of-Cleveland-Clinic-study.aspx

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It's not "bait & switch" the article is giving examples of who should and shouldn't be getting the vaccine.

Requiring the vaccine in people who are already immune with natural immunity has no scientific support. While vaccinating those people may be beneficial – and it's a reasonable hypothesis that vaccination may bolster the longevity of their immunity – to argue dogmatically that they must get vaccinated has zero clinical outcome data to back it. As a matter of fact, we have data to the contrary: A Cleveland Clinic study found that vaccinating people with natural immunity did not add to their level of protection.

No point vaccinating those who’ve had COVID-19: Cleveland Clinic study suggests


https://www.news-medical.net/news/20...nic-study.aspx

This post has NOTHING to do with your unsubstantiated claim in post #585.

Follow the science

The power of natural immunity was recently affirmed in an Israeli study, which found a 6.7 times greater level of protection among those with natural immunity vs. those with vaccinated immunity.

https://www.usnews.com/news/national...-all-americans

Your claim doesn't reference any scientific, paper, journal, or medical report. There's no author or doctor associated with the claim. Nor is there any link to a University or medical institution. There is merely random data about the recent outbreak in Israel, data about the total number of cases in Israel, and an unsubstantiated claim about natural immunity. Additionally all of the above comes from media with an agenda.

[Jayvegas420]

Boom! A doctor says it perfectly. Everyone needs to watch this video. They will surely take it down soon.

Surprise Surprise

[Kermit]

This post has NOTHING to do with your unsubstantiated claim in post #585.



Your claim doesn't reference any scientific, paper, journal, or medical report. There's no author or doctor associated with the claim. Nor is there any link to a University or medical institution. There is merely random data about the recent outbreak in Israel, data about the total number of cases in Israel, and an unsubstantiated claim about natural immunity. Additionally all of the above comes from media with an agenda.

My follow up post came from a link that is in my original post.

Dr Falsey tells you that a mask doesn't work, then he tells you that it does, and you just believe what he says. Fukking guy has been all over the place for 18 months and people just continue to believe whatever he says.

I don't see any medical experts debunking that claims about natural immunity that were posted by The Cleveland Clinic last month or about the claims that you are 6 times safer with natural immunity.

And what about all of the medical doctors that have come out and rebutted what Fauci and the CDC has said? Do their opinions not matter? Instead they get silenced and/or cancelled.

[masr]

Jerking off on Zoom didn't put his colleagues health in danger.

Perfect response from a liberal..." Its OK to jerk off in front of your coworkers and not get fired...
Now this guy is the real jag off

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My follow up post came from a link that is in my original post.

Dr Falsey tells you that a mask doesn't work, then he tells you that it does, and you just believe what he says. Fukking guy has been all over the place for 18 months and people just continue to believe whatever he says.

I don't see any medical experts debunking that claims about natural immunity that were posted by The Cleveland Clinic last month or about the claims that you are 6 times safer with natural immunity.

And what about all of the medical doctors that have come out and rebutted what Fauci and the CDC has said? Do their opinions not matter? Instead they get silenced and/or cancelled.

Again, this has NOTHING to do with what you have claimed here:

Follow the science

The power of natural immunity was recently affirmed in an Israeli study, which found a 6.7 times greater level of protection among those with natural immunity vs. those with vaccinated immunity.

https://www.usnews.com/news/national...-all-americans

I have no issue with what the doctor from John Hopkins University said in the article you linked. I have no issue with the study by Cleveland Clinic you linked in the 2nd post. NEITHER of those 2 sources are supporting your claim of 6.7 times greater level of protection from natural immunity compared to a vaccine. That claim is made by the Israeli/Jewish equivalent of 'The Watchtower' which shouldn't be on anyone's medical list. There are no doctor/author/medical facility details attached to that claim which indicate that there is in fact no such study. If there was such a study all of the covid 19 related medical community would be commenting on it. So...either add some author/doctor/medical facility/document name details to your claim or have the good sense to walk it back.

...and feel free to make legitimate comments about Dr Falsey, Fauci, and the CDC on their inconsistencies and failures.

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I...No point vaccinating those who’ve had COVID-19: Cleveland Clinic study suggests
https://www.news-medical.net/news/20...nic-study.aspx

If you're going to read this article you should also read the related article linked on the same page:

https://healthfeedback.org/claimreview/covid-19-vaccines-can-enhance-protective-immunity-in-previously-infected-people/

[TheMoneyShot]

I wish people would get their heads out their asses.... this entire COVID thing was a BOTCH JOB. It would of worked if they stuck with the script... but because other people ran their mouths and exaggerated symptoms.... and other features.... the plan failed. Only the sheep still believe in this. It's remarkable the people still pushing to get vaccinated. Just go and get injected with toilet bowl water.... it's probably safer.


Idiots wanting to inject anything in their system to make the COVID GO AWAY!!! Give me a break.

[manny24]

but Moneyshotter the bodies are piling up in the streets



these dumbfuks should inject bleach like Big Don said to clean up the lies

[Demonata]

Going to the store right now. I hope I don't die from covid on the way.

[The Kraken]

I wish people would get their heads out their asses.... this entire COVID thing was a BOTCH JOB. It would of worked if they stuck with the script... but because other people ran their mouths and exaggerated symptoms.... and other features.... the plan failed. Only the sheep still believe in this. It's remarkable the people still pushing to get vaccinated. Just go and get injected with toilet bowl water.... it's probably safer.


Idiots wanting to inject anything in their system to make the COVID GO AWAY!!! Give me a break.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/texas-hospitals-already-overloaded-doctors-121726648.html

[TheMoneyShot]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/texas-hos...121726648.html

Yeah... all the fukking immigrants from Southern borders that a$$hole BIDEN LET IN!!! HELLO!!!!

[The Kraken]

Yeah... all the fukking immigrants from Southern borders that a$$hole BIDEN LET IN!!! HELLO!!!!

How else Dems gonna stay in power, gotta bring in the voters

[Demonata]

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[d2bets]

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Alex Jones still peddling snake oil?

[Mac4Lyfe]

Yeah... all the fukking immigrants from Southern borders that a$$hole BIDEN LET IN!!! HELLO!!!!

Haha, ZERO illegal immigrants in Houston hospitals. All are Dumb Dumb Trump supporters. Even the black and Hispanics. Dumb Trump cult members. Uncanny.

HISD just gave Gov Abbott a huge fukk you finger. Get your masks up.


HISD school board approves districtwide mask mandate for 2021-2022 school year

HOUSTON, Texas (KTRK) -- When students return to Houston ISD campuses on Aug. 23, they'll be required to wear a mask after the district's board of trustees voted Thursday to approve a mandate.

It comes after superintendent Millard House said last week that he would propose a mask mandate for all students, staff and visitors at all of their schools, buses and facilities at Thursday's board meeting.

The move defies Gov. Greg Abbott's executive order barring government entities in Texas, including counties, cities, school districts, public health authorities, and government officials, from requiring or mandating the use of masks.


SEE ALSO: Some Houston-area school districts defying Gov. Abbott's COVID orders


HISD is the largest public school district in Texas and the seventh-largest in the United States.

Houston ISD joins the list of locally governing entities, along with the City of Houston, Harris County and Fort Bend County, that have challenged the governor's executive order banning mask mandates.

[Kermit]

Yeah, let's have kids wear masks all day that don't do anything except collect their own spit and bacteria. What could go wrong?

[Kermit]

If you're going to read this article you should also read the related article linked on the same page:

https://healthfeedback.org/claimrevi...fected-people/

So if you had Covid and you get the vaccine, then you are "Super-Protected"?



You guys will believe anything.

[goduke]

Yeah, let's have kids wear masks all day that don't do anything except collect their own spit and bacteria. What could go wrong?

How’s the children’s icu doing in Dallas? So instead of spit on a mask they can die outside waiting for a bed if they are unlucky and get a bad case of it. So which is better, prove a point and hope a kid doesn’t die or help protect these kids just in case.
I don’t know about you but I don’t want any kids to die so whatever precaution needs to be taken to give them more of a chance to avoid it the better.
Parents are inherently stupid with absolutely no medical knowledge. They should not be the end decision maker in this situation. 75 percent of adults should never have kids

[Demonata]

How’s the children’s icu doing in Dallas? So instead of spit on a mask they can die outside waiting for a bed if they are unlucky and get a bad case of it. So which is better, prove a point and hope a kid doesn’t die or help protect these kids just in case.
I don’t know about you but I don’t want any kids to die so whatever precaution needs to be taken to give them more of a chance to avoid it the better.
Parents are inherently stupid with absolutely no medical knowledge. They should not be the end decision maker in this situation. 75 percent of adults should never have kids

Don't even let kids outside then they could die by anything. If you let kids outside you must want kids to die. Also dont left them play any sports, they could die. You want them to wear masks while they are playing as well? Show me a statistic that says kids are dying at an alarming rate from covid, I'll wait.

[Kermit]

How’s the children’s icu doing in Dallas? So instead of spit on a mask they can die outside waiting for a bed if they are unlucky and get a bad case of it. So which is better, prove a point and hope a kid doesn’t die or help protect these kids just in case.
I don’t know about you but I don’t want any kids to die so whatever precaution needs to be taken to give them more of a chance to avoid it the better.
Parents are inherently stupid with absolutely no medical knowledge. They should not be the end decision maker in this situation. 75 percent of adults should never have kids

If masks don't prevent the transmission, then what is the point?

Freaking Deer are testing positive for Coivd now. Yes, Deer. How did they get it?

I heard that no more kids are dying from this "Delta" variant than were dying from the original one. So the whole theory that the Delta is killing more kids is a fabrication.

And are they out of hospital beds all because of Covid?

[milwaukee mike]

the fake nurses on cbs can't even keep a straight face when they're lying about the "delta variant"

we are all being played, this was never about a virus, it was about controlling people

[The Kraken]

If masks don't prevent the transmission, then what is the point?

Freaking Deer are testing positive for Coivd now. Yes, Deer. How did they get it?

I heard that no more kids are dying from this "Delta" variant than were dying from the original one. So the whole theory that the Delta is killing more kids is a fabrication.

And are they out of hospital beds all because of Covid?

If you ever need surgery, tell them to skip the masks. And then maybe you'll understand

[VeggieDog]

If you ever need surgery, tell them to skip the masks. And then maybe you'll understand

Do surgeons wear the same mask day after day? Do surgeons touch their mask with their bare hands after touching all kinds of other things that could be infected with a virus? Do surgeons wear a 10-year-old bandana loosely tied around their face. Do surgeons wear their mask under their nose half the time?
Yeah, Kraken, I get your point. But look at a surgeon in the operating room and then tell me the morons at the grocery store are really protecting anything.

[The Kraken]

Do surgeons wear the same mask day after day? Do surgeons touch their mask with their bare hands after touching all kinds of other things that could be infected with a virus? Do surgeons wear a 10-year-old bandana loosely tied around their face. Do surgeons wear their mask under their nose half the time?
Yeah, Kraken, I get your point. But look at a surgeon in the operating room and then tell me the morons at the grocery store are really protecting anything.

No one expects the kids at the grocery store to be sterile. But even a dirty, used mask prevents the spread of droplets.

[Mac4Lyfe]

If masks don't prevent the transmission, then what is the point?

Where the fukk do you get your dumb logic? Of course masks prevents transmission. Is it 100% foolproof? No, but it definitely works. Have you worn a mask while cutting grass? Have you worn a mask when the pollen count is high? Have you worn a mask around smokers? Masks work. Have you worn a mask while going into a public restroom? Have you taken it off and smelled shit an piss? Stop being dumb. There's a huge difference in wearing a masks versus NOT wearing one. People who have seasonal allergies are having less allergies because of masks the past year and a half.


Kermit - you are quickly becoming a bad source of information. You were never this bad. What happened?

[goduke]

Don't even let kids outside then they could die by anything. If you let kids outside you must want kids to die. Also dont left them play any sports, they could die. You want them to wear masks while they are playing as well? Show me a statistic that says kids are dying at an alarming rate from covid, I'll wait.

You take preventive measures for all those other things you listed though. Kids don’t play in traffic outside. Kids wear safety equipment for sports. Not really a good comparison by you at all

[Jayvegas420]

If you ever need surgery, tell them to skip the masks. And then maybe you'll understand

well to be fair most of us have a slightly stronger immune system than someone with exposed organs who's just been assaulted with a sharp knife.

[Demonata]

You take preventive measures for all those other things you listed though. Kids don’t play in traffic outside. Kids wear safety equipment for sports. Not really a good comparison by you at all

Yes it is.

[The Kraken]

well to be fair most of us have a slightly stronger immune system than someone with exposed organs who's just been assaulted with a sharp knife.

4,300,000 peeps dead in 18 months

Sorry Jay but not sure thats a valid point

Either way, masks work extremely well for droplets. Primary vector of spread for covid is droplet.

If I had to choose between the vaccine or a mask and hand washing, Id choose the latter 100/100 times

[Romocide]

No one says it was a cure. But you are dodging simple statistics.

10 people in a room. 1 person has covid. If the other 9 in the room have the vaccine less people will leave that room with covid then if those 9 others were not vaccinated. Can you really deny this?

YES. You can deny this. Have you been living under a rock for the last month?? It has been proven that vaccinated people still are contracting and spreading the virus. It has been on every news stations every day. It’s why some areas are starting to mandate that even vaccinated people start wearing masks again.

[Romocide]

4,300,000 peeps dead in 18 months

Sorry Jay but not sure thats a valid point

Either way, masks work extremely well for droplets. Primary vector of spread for covid is droplet.

If I had to choose between the vaccine or a mask and hand washing, Id choose the latter 100/100 times

The large majority of those people were elderly and/or already had an underlying condition. And no telling how many had thei deaths misclassified as Covid because hospitals are receiving kickbacks from the government for every Covid patient they treat.

[Fishhead]

The majority of people should AVOID the vaccine

[Fishhead]

The large majority of those people were elderly and/or already had an underlying condition. And no telling how many had thei deaths misclassified as Covid because hospitals are receiving kickbacks from the government for every Covid patient they treat.

[goduke]

Yes it is.

How so? His examples show preventive measures that take place while what he’s comparing it to he doesn’t think preventive measures should be put into place.
Come on now, you can disagree on things but saying his comparison is the same is stupid logic