ESPN requiring all employees to get the Covid shot

[tommir99]

Your betpoints are more than your IQ.

How many people need to take the vaccine before you can be comfortable? All people or some certain percentage like 80 or 90 perhaps?

[semibluff]

See post above^^^

I read it that she was more concerned about the Raiders and Steelers fans, and was being vaccinated against 'becoming one of them'.

[Mac4Lyfe]

How many people need to take the vaccine before you can be comfortable? All people or some certain percentage like 80 or 90 perhaps?

I have no idea. Research says that it takes 70 - 90% for herd immunity. The exact numbers is probably a moving target.

I've been wide open since getting the vaccine in January. Stopped wearing masks and social distancing until last week where the number of cases have exploded in Texas. I know a few vaccinated people who got Covid. None had to go to the hospital but on bed rest at home for days. A lot of people in Houston have gone back to wearing masks and no one had to tell us to do so. Houstonians are some of the smartest people in the US. I'm headed back to Cali tomorrow and will mask up there as well. Half the country is not vaccinated and/or haven't had Covid yet. That number has to come down in order for us to get back to somewhat normal.

[Mac4Lyfe]

I have given away more SBR betpoints than you have ever earned total dollar wise in your life
Your government assistant checks do not count you fukkking idiot

You should have saved some of your brain cells... You are not too bright.

[Demonata]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/42-old-fi...090128572.html

This is the man you wish you were. A man you might pull your dick out to later. You talk about being healthy and active, yet you post here all day and ran away like a BITCH from a few kids at the playground bball court And you were so ashamed of that you joined Proud Boys so they could help you fight your fights

Well while you're here posting all day tall tales, this man was climbing mtns, bodybuilding, and training.

He died of covid... Yet you think think you're too healthy

Best thing you have going for you is that you never leave your house

You are a loser,baby squid. Go cry some more liberal.

[Demonata]

You should have saved some of your brain cells... You are not too bright.

If he's not too bright than your brain cells are non existent?

[stake1]

Time to bury that scumbag, propaganda posting POS asshole for good. Has a case of "tds" so bad, there is no help for her, no cure. End of story
Never can wait for the facts, always sticks to her script. She is the dumbest poster in SBR history:

She’s definitely injured…

He might be making up shit. It looked like she was physically injured. If she was "mental", she wouldn't even had come out to attempt the bars. Hell, she wouldn't even attempt the vault.

Looks like that fukkker made that shit up. There should be serious repercussions if he did.

Here that asshole actually demands another poster "retract" his post:

Argued??? on a betting forum???
Who gives a shit how many miles away I am. That bogus twitter poster is probably posting from Iceland??? I was watching the live feed. I'm going to trust my eyes over his shitty twitter posts. Do you think I'm going to take the opinion of 10 people at SBR, half of who don't even own a TV? LOL

The guy retracted his post. Are you going to retract yours?

This is how rumors start. Pretty soon people will call her Simone Osaka and think she played tennis.

This has gotten serious! All of this fake BS from that liar in less than an hour

Unde - I'll bet you 1,000 points that it is not a mental condition. Check in...

When one's narrative fails, repeat it. That is the law of the low IQ "tds" morons

He might be making up shit. It looked like she was physically injured. If she was "mental", she wouldn't even had come out to attempt the bars. Hell, she wouldn't even attempt the vault.

And do it again

Looks like that fukkker made that shit up. There should be serious repercussions if he did.

Are you serious Unde? You came into the thread and bashed me that I was wrong, so you did care. Then, instead of you apologizing to me, you say it doesn't matter why she didn't perform. Yes, it does matter why she couldn't continue. SHE DID NOT QUIT. She was injured and your post like many others are pissing on her for no good reason. Biles is a performer. She couldn't perform because she was hurt and that fukk tried to hurt her reputation all for clicks.

[Mac4Lyfe]

^^^ You are totally disingenuous but we all know your type. You purposely failed to post where I said I was wrong in that thread. I have no problem being wrong and I'll be the first to say it. You however will die on the Trump vine. Most likely hooked up to a ventilator. Happy sucking.

[Demonata]

^^^ You are totally disingenuous but we all know your type. You purposely failed to post where I said I was wrong in that thread. I have no problem being wrong and I'll be the first to say it. You however will die on the Trump vine. Most likely hooked up to a ventilator. Happy sucking.

You are fake news

[The Kraken]

You are a loser,baby squid. Go cry some more liberal.

ahhhhhh

MY BITCH

Its so great that everyone, including you, know what I wrote is 100% true

You cant even deny you ran like a bitch that day on the playground, or that you're a liar, or that you're my bitch, because you've admitted to each many times

Have fun spanking your meat to a real man

[antifoil]

businesses are allowed to do what they want. good for them. this is the reason we have been union busting and going to right to work states.

i don't see what the problem is.

[pavyracer]

You are fake news

[KVB]

businesses are allowed to do what they want. good for them. this is the reason we have been union busting and going to right to work states.

i don't see what the problem is.

Yeah, as a conservative myself, it's amazing how many who claim to be conservative are so willing to step on employer rights. Well defined precedent at that.

Where will these guys stop? Where's the line? They just want the empoyees to be able to tell their to fukk off with no consequence. Next thing you know they'll be showing up to work naked trying to say it's a religious or race thing, or just because it's their body and they get to choose what to do with it.

Meanwhile, employers can't do anything because it's how the employee feels that matters?

The employee can go find another employer.

I'm not for mandating this particular vaccine, at all, but I sure as hell am not going to throw out more than 100 years of precedent when it comes to vaccines and employer rights.

No way.

[stake1]

^^^ You are totally disingenuous but we all know your type. You purposely failed to post where I said I was wrong in that thread. I have no problem being wrong and I'll be the first to say it. You however will die on the Trump vine. Most likely hooked up to a ventilator. Happy sucking.

[Demonata]

ahhhhhh

MY BITCH

Its so great that everyone, including you, know what I wrote is 100% true

You cant even deny you ran like a bitch that day on the playground, or that you're a liar, or that you're my bitch, because you've admitted to each many times

Have fun spanking your meat to a real man

You are fake news liberal. Go let Biden sniff you

[Demonata]

How's your fake pornstar girlfriend doing? Is that what smart people do? Make up girlfriends?

[pavyracer]

How's your fake pornstar girlfriend doing? Is that what smart people do? Make up girlfriends?

Dude you need new material. You post the same stuff everyday and you get buried by multiple posters all the time. Don't you have any shame?

[Demonata]

Dude you need new material. You post the same stuff everyday and you get buried by multiple posters all the time. Don't you have any shame?

You need new material than to quit blaming trump daily for all your personal problems. You post the same stuff every day. Not trumps fault you don't have a girlfriend.

[Thor4140]

Dude you need new material. You post the same stuff everyday and you get buried by multiple posters all the time. Don't you have any shame?

This is what makes Trumpers unique. When they should be shamed they have no idea they should. It is pretty much an amazing phenomenon . I am sure we have some decent thinking trumpers who voted for him simply because he had an R next to his name but this other thirty percent are people you pray don't move into your neighborhood. You pray when you are in a bar the fuk doesn't see an open seat next to ya and sit in it. The guy who wants to high five you after every sentence. I think you are picking up what i am dropping here.

[Demonata]

This is what makes Trumpers unique. When they should be shamed they have no idea they should. It is pretty much an amazing phenomenon . I am sure we have some decent thinking trumpers who voted for him simply because he had an R next to his name but this other thirty percent are people you pray don't move into your neighborhood. You pray when you are in a bar the fuk doesn't see an open seat next to ya and sit in it. The guy who wants to high five you after every sentence. I think you are picking up what i am dropping here.

Donald Trump! Pavyracer lying about having a pornstar girlfriend and getting caught isn't something to be ash as med of? Dumbass libtard. It's anazing you liberals can break all the things you hate that trumps supporters do. You liberals are too dumb to realize your morals make no sense and hurt America and moves us backwards.

[DwightShrute]

Yeah, as a conservative myself, it's amazing how many who claim to be conservative are so willing to step on employer rights. Well defined precedent at that.

Where will these guys stop? Where's the line? They just want the empoyees to be able to tell their to fukk off with no consequence. Next thing you know they'll be showing up to work naked trying to say it's a religious or race thing, or just because it's their body and they get to choose what to do with it.

Meanwhile, employers can't do anything because it's how the employee feels that matters?

The employee can go find another employer.

I'm not for mandating this particular vaccine, at all, but I sure as hell am not going to throw out more than 100 years of precedent when it comes to vaccines and employer rights.

No way.

you are missing the point. What about the employee's rights? You seem to have no problem stepping on their rights.

You can keep your job if you inject yourself with an unproven experimental vaccine? The countless numbers of people who already got covid and now have natural immunity now have to inject themselves with said unproven experiment vaccine to keep your job? Where will THIS stop? Where is the line?

This is not what decent societies do. This is discrimination at its worse. No one is arguing to come to work naked because once again, you don't do that in a decent society.

In NY, if you don't have a vaccine passport and you are under 12-year old you cannot go eat in a restaurant. Neither can adults. You can't go to the gym. Last year you could open your gym if you owned one. You couldn't open your salon or restaurant. If you did, you would be fined and/or shut down. While these dirt bag politicians where breaking their own rules constantly. You couldn't hold a parade or any kind of celebration but they made an exception if you wanted to march the streets for BLM who advocate killing and defunding police?

WTF is going on people?

On other words, if Joe has been working for a company for 20 years and already has natural immunity from the virus, he must now inject himself with a medicine in which he doesn't need in order to keep his job? A vaccine which is affecting people who have already gotten the jab? And if the vaccine is so great, then why would anyone care if anyone else is vaccinated or not?

The sheer stupidity of this is beyond belief. How eager and willing people are to stomp of people's civil liberties is dumbfounding.

Lastly. This whole "well they can just find another job" craziness. While it many be easy for some to do, it definitely isn't easy for others. They have families and bills to pay. It causes financial hardships. All because they don't want to be force to be injected with a medicine the may not even need. As a member of the human race, how anyone could be in favor of this is truly sad.

[Ventura]

you are missing the point. What about the employee's rights? You seem to have no problem stepping on their rights.

You can keep your job if you inject yourself with an unproven experimental vaccine? The countless numbers of people who already got covid and now have natural immunity now have to inject themselves with said unproven experiment vaccine to keep your job? Where will THIS stop? Where is the line?

This is not what decent societies do. This is discrimination at its worse. No one is arguing to come to work naked because once again, you don't do that in a decent society.

In NY, if you don't have a vaccine passport and you are under 12-year old you cannot go eat in a restaurant. Neither can adults. You can't go to the gym. Last year you could open your gym if you owned one. You couldn't open your salon or restaurant. If you did, you would be fined and/or shut down. While these dirt bag politicians where breaking their own rules constantly. You couldn't hold a parade or any kind of celebration but they made an exception if you wanted to march the streets for BLM who advocate killing and defunding police?

WTF is going on people?

On other words, if Joe has been working for a company for 20 years and already has natural immunity from the virus, he must now inject himself with a medicine in which he doesn't need in order to keep his job? A vaccine which is affecting people who have already gotten the jab? And if the vaccine is so great, then why would anyone care if anyone else is vaccinated or not?

The sheer stupidity of this is beyond belief. How eager and willing people are to stomp of people's civil liberties is dumbfounding.

Lastly. This whole "well they can just find another job" craziness. While it many be easy for some to do, it definitely isn't easy for others. They have families and bills to pay. It causes financial hardships. All because they don't want to be force to be injected with a medicine the may not even need. As a member of the human race, how anyone could be in favor of this is truly sad.

What rights?

I asked you this the other day and you dodged the question. What rights do employees have and how do they pertain to at-will employment?

[DwightShrute]

What rights?

I asked you this the other day and you dodged the question. What rights do employees have and how do they pertain to at-will employment?

I don't dodge. I didn't think it was worth a reply at the time. I still don't but what the heck.

You can't fire someone without cause. This applies.

[Ventura]

I don't dodge. I didn't think it was worth a reply at the time. I still don't but what the heck.

You can't fire someone without cause. This applies.

Violating a company policy is reasonable cause.

I’m not for or against mandating vaccines in the workspace. There might be some industries where it makes sense, but violating a company policy is grounds for termination.

[DwightShrute]

Violating a company policy is reasonable cause.

I’m not for or against mandating vaccines in the workspace. There might be some industries where it makes sense, but violating a company policy is grounds for termination.

reasonable cause yes, not if its asinine. can you fire a vaccinated person who gets covid? can you fire a vaccinated person who gets covid, recovers, comes back to work with natural immunity and is told by his doctor that he doesn't need to take the vaccine?

Reasonable people can agree companies have rights. As do employees. You can't discriminate for such things as race, sex, religion etc. No one knows if this vaccine will have any long term effect and its still undetermined if its effective as they say it is. Based on that alone, I can't agree with anyone being allowed to force anyone to take it and same goes for anyone losing their job over it.

[MinnesotaFats]

What rights?

I asked you this the other day and you dodged the question. What rights do employees have and how do they pertain to at-will employment?

Every business is required to post an employees bill of rights near the time cards or place of gathering.

This is standard.

Here are a few:
freedom of association and the effective recognition of the right to collective bargaining;elimination of all forms of forced or compulsory labor;effective abolition of child labor; andelimination of discrimination in respect of employment and occupation.

I'd say #2 would make mandatory vaxxing unconstitutional in Minnesota anyway.

[The Kraken]

Mandatory vaxxing is already settled precedent

If you disagree, file suit and take it to John Roberts

[KVB]

Every business is required to post an employees bill of rights near the time cards or place of gathering.

This is standard.

Here are a few:
freedom of association and the effective recognition of the right to collective bargaining;elimination of all forms of forced or compulsory labor;effective abolition of child labor; andelimination of discrimination in respect of employment and occupation.

I'd say #2 would make mandatory vaxxing unconstitutional in Minnesota anyway.

If you had just bothered to read some of this thread you would no why whay you say is outright wrong.

Don't you own a business? You are really that cluless as to your rights as an employer? Really?

You still going on what you think or feel?

Laughable at this point.

[KVB]

you are missing the point. What about the employee's rights? You seem to have no problem stepping on their rights...

No, I am not stepping on employee rights here, there are no employee rights here. This has already been fought on and decided in the courts.

The precedent is set.

This is not an issue of civil liberties, we're talking about a private workplace and public health.

It is you who are stepping on employer rights under the guise of civil liberties.

That's exaclty like saying Twitter can't suspend anybody because of the First Ammendment right to free speech...a ridiculous notion at the very least.

It shows a willful ignorance to how these laws are applied.

You are being educated here, but you are ignoring the reality, in the end it's your choice to learn or to continue to be frustrated becaue you don't understand.

It is a very liberal stance to take away employer rights and try to have the employees run the asylum. Very liberal.

[KVB]

Mandatory vaxxing is already settled precedent

If you disagree, file suit and take it to John Roberts

How do these guys not know this? I always thought Dwight and Minny were more conservative, but maybe it's just ignorance to the actual law that is the issue here.

Maybe they think they're conservative, but don't know how the ideologies play out in the real world.

All we can do is give them the facts of the laws, correct their mistakes. In the end, they will claim we are pushing an agenda, when all we are doing is setting the record that they don't understand straight.

That is 100% "I can't be wrong" ego at work there. I've seen it a million times over the years, when trying to teach sportsbettors to win.

The first lesson is always an ego check, it's usually the number 1 thing that keeps people from learning.

There are posters in this thread that are not learning, and this isn't even a difficult topic.

You can lead a horse to water....

[pavyracer]

Trying to teach a Trumper how the US Law works is like talking to a rock (that big one DwightShrute posted yesterday). The facts do not matter. Trump lost 61 lawsuits about election fraud and he still says he won. For them white is black and black is white.

[tommir99]

The best way to get thru these "terrible" covid times is: watching good quality comedy movies, and reading these posts here in covid threads. Thank you again KVB. The part about ego check was especially hilarious

[KVB]

Trying to teach a Trumper how the US Law works is like talking to a rock (that big one DwightShrute posted yesterday). The facts do not matter. Trump lost 61 lawsuits about election fraud and he still says he won. For them white is black and black is white.

I don't give a shit who these guys supported, and this has nothing to do with Trump or political ideology.

The proof to that is that Dwight and Minny, specifically, don't like the conservative stance and choose a more liberal stance where employers are stripped of long established rights.

So Pavy you're talking about posters tryingto force their liberal viewpoints and stance on the rest of the country, or at least all private employers.

No need to bring Trump into this at all. Besides, for the posters who don't know the law doing so will just get them more confused.

[KVB]

So you can see, there is no need for arguing in this thread. Like many on this subject, there is far more need for education than debate.

[pavyracer]

I don't give a shit who these guys supported, and this has nothing to do with Trump or political ideology.

The proof to that is that Dwight and Minny, specifically, don't like the conservative stance and choose a more liberal stance where employers are stripped of long established rights.

So Pavy you're talking about posters tryingto force their liberal viewpoints and stance on the rest of the country, or at least all private employers.

No need to bring Trump into this at all. Besides, for the posters who don't know the law doing so will just get them more confused.

I stand corrected. I made a mistake. I shouldn't have used Trump. I should have said My Pillow Guy. Because he is the one promoting all these theories about election fraud.