Think this year proved the 4 team playoffs is pretty bad

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  • homie1975
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 12-24-13
    • 15452

    #36
    Originally posted by pavyracer
    If you had 8 teams in playoff then Florida, Georgia, Miami and North Carolina wouldn't have players opt out for Bowl games.
    georgia, miami and north carolina were not even in the final top 8 rankings by the CFP committee so they all would have had players opt out !!
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    • seaborneq
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 09-08-06
      • 22556

      #37
      Originally posted by homie1975
      Yes they did it before the transfer portal because if recruiting. You understand that national signing day is traditionally the first tue in feb which means if you sign a coach during the bowl games he only has 4-5 weeks to hit the recruiting trail and sell his program. It's all about recruiting.
      I know why they do it, my point is it doesn't happen in any other postseason because the postseason is more important than the regular season. Look at the the playoff field in the NFL this year, none of those teams are worried about someone else taking their coach while their teams are in the run for the Super Bowl. There is actually something to play for and no reason to opt out. Yes NCAA has the most important regular season, and just have no rhyme or reason to their postseason. And to be truthful, they have tinkered around with early signing days, dead periods, and other things to make coaching changes less likely in the postseason, but until the games mean something after the regular season, coaches will always take jobs while bowls are taking place. Coaches USED to want to coach their teams in bowl games before leaving for another job, now that is not even important.............unless the team is playing for a championship.
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      • ArunSh
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 09-24-07
        • 6801

        #38
        Problem is, whatever the format is there will be years that it will look bad. If it was only top two teams, and there were three teams who all could legitimately claim to be the best, then the four team playoff would look way better! And I'm sure Texas A&M is wishing it was eight teams instead!

        Again, nothing's going to be perfect, and whatever it is, always can look bad way things turn out, just gotta take it as it is.
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        • seaborneq
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 09-08-06
          • 22556

          #39
          Originally posted by ArunSh
          Problem is, whatever the format is there will be years that it will look bad. If it was only top two teams, and there were three teams who all could legitimately claim to be the best, then the four team playoff would look way better! And I'm sure Texas A&M is wishing it was eight teams instead!

          Again, nothing's going to be perfect, and whatever it is, always can look bad way things turn out, just gotta take it as it is.
          Its not about fairness. Its about the Power 5 getting all the money and letting the crumbs fall to the G5. That is not going to change.
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          • asiagambler
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 07-23-17
            • 6827

            #40
            Originally posted by d2bets
            Except that at the end if the day the 2 best teams are playing for the title.
            The two best teams are still Alabama and Clemson this year
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            • RM Logic
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 12-09-13
              • 847

              #41
              Originally posted by asiagambler
              The two best teams are still Alabama and Clemson this year
              Guess you missed Clemson losing by 21 pts the other day. They were dominated in the trenches all game long.
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              • PaperTrail07
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 08-29-08
                • 20423

                #42
                Opt outs and bullshit is what you get with bowl games........simple as that...
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                • PaperTrail07
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 08-29-08
                  • 20423

                  #43
                  ......OSU dominated them....
                  Originally posted by asiagambler
                  The two best teams are still Alabama and Clemson this year
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                  • seaborneq
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 09-08-06
                    • 22556

                    #44
                    Every team doesn’t deserve a bowl game. That’s where we are now. Be more selective.
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                    • jtoler
                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                      • 12-17-13
                      • 30967

                      #45
                      Originally posted by RM Logic
                      Guess you missed Clemson losing by 21 pts the other day. They were dominated in the trenches all game long.
                      just like last year save the fluke ref calls
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                      • spurginobili
                        SBR MVP
                        • 05-09-09
                        • 3065

                        #46
                        An 8-team playoff will eventually happen. I think the vast majority approve & want to see it

                        The current CFP contract is up in 2025. Just wish we didn't have to wait 5 more years
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                        • asiagambler
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 07-23-17
                          • 6827

                          #47
                          Originally posted by PaperTrail07
                          ......OSU dominated them....
                          Tell me what you think the line would be if they played again today ?
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                          • BigdaddyQH
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 07-13-09
                            • 19530

                            #48
                            Unless and until CFB makes major changes, their alleged "Championship" will mean nothing. What happened to the mighty ACC this past Bowl season. 0-6 happened. No one really knew how bad they were because all they did was play each other. Meanwhile. the Big 12, who did not even get a whiff of going to the Playoffs went 5-0. The NFL plays 16 games in their regular season and only 6 of them are against Divisional rivals. The other 10 games are spread out. Until the Colleges devise a way to play more non-conference games against meaningful opponents, and learn to control their players who can jump from school to school because they think they are a lot better than they actually are, College Football will be nothing more than a sideshow for the NFL.
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                            • PaperTrail07
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 08-29-08
                              • 20423

                              #49
                              even to OSU -5.5.....
                              Originally posted by asiagambler
                              Tell me what you think the line would be if they played again today ?
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                              • asiagambler
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 07-23-17
                                • 6827

                                #50
                                Originally posted by PaperTrail07
                                even to OSU -5.5.....
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                                • maggiethebestdog
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 12-21-13
                                  • 6700

                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by asiagambler
                                  Tell me what you think the line would be if they played again today ?
                                  More SBR sports expertise

                                  That's not the way sports work

                                  OSU destroyed Clemson on a neutral field Friday

                                  It doesn't matter what the line on a fictional game would be after that, much less insinuating that Clemson is still a better team

                                  It's amazing what gets posted on this forum

                                  The line was Clemson -7.5 on Friday
                                  They got blown off the field

                                  So if the line for another game had Clemson favored again, which it wouldn't, that would mean Clemson is a better team in your mind??

                                  LOL

                                  Please stop
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                                  • asiagambler
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 07-23-17
                                    • 6827

                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by maggiethebestdog
                                    More SBR sports expertise

                                    That's not the way sports work

                                    OSU destroyed Clemson on a neutral field Friday

                                    It doesn't matter what the line on a fictional game would be after that, much less insinuating that Clemson is still a better team

                                    It's amazing what gets posted on this forum

                                    The line was Clemson -7.5 on Friday
                                    They got blown off the field

                                    So if the line for another game had Clemson favored again, which it wouldn't, that would mean Clemson is a better team in your mind??

                                    LOL

                                    Please stop
                                    If the line for another game had Clemson favoured again, which it would, that would be the definition of Clemson being the better team
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                                    • maggiethebestdog
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 12-21-13
                                      • 6700

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by asiagambler
                                      If the line for another game had Clemson favoured again, which it would, that would be the definition of Clemson being the better team
                                      So, according to you, the definition of a better team is who is favored before the game, not the team that is better on the field in a blowout???

                                      Gotchya

                                      With a healthy Justin Fields, Clemson would not be favored

                                      Please tell me you are kidding
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                                      • asiagambler
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 07-23-17
                                        • 6827

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by maggiethebestdog
                                        So, according to you, the definition of a better team is who is favored before the game, not the team that is better on the field in a blowout???

                                        Gotchya

                                        With a healthy Justin Fields, Clemson would not be favored

                                        Please tell me you are kidding


                                        That's not according to just me. That's what the market decides

                                        Anything can happen in one game. Crazy things like the better team losing (yes even in a blowout)

                                        Seems you're the type to get caught up in one game samples and become prisoner of the moment
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                                        • champlain
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 03-19-14
                                          • 713

                                          #55
                                          [QUOTE=asiagambler;30008052]

                                          That's not according to just me. That's what the market decides

                                          Anything can happen in one game. Crazy things like the better team losing (yes even in a blowout)

                                          Seems you're the type to get caught up in one game samples and become prisoner of the moment[/QUOTE

                                          One game does change the market.
                                          Before the conference championship games, betonline had Ohio state -1.5 favorite over Clemson. But, Ohio state wasn’t impressive vs northwestern and Clemson dominated Notre Dame and the market changed to Clemson -7. So, Vegas is reacting to the games just like fans do.

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                                          • Enkhbat
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 04-18-11
                                            • 3145

                                            #56
                                            I like the 4 team playoffs better than 2. I mean if it was 2 teams this year it probably would have been Alabama vs Clemson. But we know Ohio State is better than Clemson.
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                                            • asiagambler
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 07-23-17
                                              • 6827

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by champlain
                                              One game does change the market.
                                              Before the conference championship games, betonline had Ohio state -1.5 favorite over Clemson. But, Ohio state wasn’t impressive vs northwestern and Clemson dominated Notre Dame and the market changed to Clemson -7. So, Vegas is reacting to the games just like fans do.

                                              https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.si....cfp-top-4-team
                                              You didn't even read your own article. That's from Dec. 5th, not right before the conference championship game. That's also a lookahead line meaning it's just a guy that came up with a number, it's not a mature market

                                              But of course one game can change the market. Every game does. That doesn't mean a team that wins in a blowout is automatically the better team and should be favoured in a rematch. Maggie implies it does though so if he thinks that then who am I to tell him different
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                                              • maggiethebestdog
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 12-21-13
                                                • 6700

                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by asiagambler
                                                You didn't even read your own article. That's from Dec. 5th, not right before the conference championship game. That's also a lookahead line meaning it's just a guy that came up with a number, it's not a mature market

                                                But of course one game can change the market. Every game does. That doesn't mean a team that wins in a blowout is automatically the better team and should be favoured in a rematch. Maggie says it does though so if he thinks that then who am I to tell him different
                                                LOL

                                                That isn't what I said at all

                                                Please continue embarrassing yourself

                                                You make Dumbo Swinney sound intelligent
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                                                • asiagambler
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 07-23-17
                                                  • 6827

                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by maggiethebestdog
                                                  LOL

                                                  That isn't what I said at all

                                                  Please continue embarrassing yourself

                                                  You make Dumbo Swinney sound intelligent
                                                  No you didn't say it directly but you did imply it. So I'll edit it for you
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                                                  • PaperTrail07
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 08-29-08
                                                    • 20423

                                                    #60
                                                    Yeah Vegas would hand out free $ and favor Clemson after watching their line and DB's get toasted....makes sense....you act like this was Arizona over the bills here....Vegas would adjust -Clemson the favorite again lol.....Im sure everyone that lost $ on Clemson would double down
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