didn't think I'd ever see this. Oregon decrim. hard narcotics.

**cincinnatikid513** · 11-04-20, 02:27 PM

good save the jails for the monsters

**VeggieDog** · 11-04-20, 02:27 PM

That will not end well.

**DrunkHorseplayer** · 11-04-20, 02:28 PM

Originally posted by cincinnatikid513

good save the jails for the monsters

That kind of shit turns people into monsters.

**tiktok** · 11-04-20, 02:36 PM

Originally posted by DrunkHorseplayer

That kind of shit turns people into monsters.

Being addicted to a shitty drug stops me from doing heroine, not if I will go to jail or not

**mjsuax13** · 11-04-20, 02:37 PM

Originally posted by Snowball

Cocaine Heroin LSD Meth MDMA etc
just pay $100 ticket or go for counseling
no more criminal offense

Oregon becomes first state to decriminalize cocaine, heroin, meth, ecstasy

Good day for El Chapo!

**PaperTrail07** · 11-04-20, 02:38 PM

Save the rooms for crimes with a Victim...

**beerman2619** · 11-04-20, 02:39 PM

Hunter Biden moving to Oregon

**Snowball** · 11-04-20, 02:43 PM

unreal example to teens

**The Kraken** · 11-04-20, 02:44 PM

Its a state issue, if you dont like it, don’t live there.

**Chi_archie** · 11-04-20, 02:45 PM

Uncle Richie!!!!!!

**daneblazer** · 11-04-20, 02:48 PM

Still illegal to manufacture and sell. Illegal to have more than a small amount. More emphasis on rehab than punishment.

They can be the guinea pigs. It’s worked for some places in Europe.

**JIBBBY** · 11-04-20, 02:49 PM

That will not end good with legalizing hard drugs like that. You will just get more junkies out of work and homeless addicted living on the streets.. Crime will probably rise as well.

**swordsandtequila** · 11-04-20, 02:51 PM

Originally posted by Snowball

unreal example to teens

Yeah, why require anything of the parents

**Chi_archie** · 11-04-20, 02:57 PM

Originally posted by JIBBBY

That will not end good with legalizing hard drugs like that. You will just get more junkies out of work and homeless addicted living on the streets.. Crime will probably rise as well.

very insightful analysis

**terpkeg** · 11-04-20, 03:01 PM

Good. Man should not interfere with my right to ingest what I please in body. Adequate laws already exist that punish crimes against life, liberty and property.

**Gonz312** · 11-04-20, 03:09 PM

Addicts are just that, addicts. Its a waste of tax dollars on criminalizing people with personal problems that affect nobody but themselves. Go after the suppliers and the dealers who enable and take advantage of these broken people. Good for Oregon.

**gauchojake** · 11-04-20, 03:14 PM

Minor drug offenders fill your prisons you don't even flinch
All our taxes paying for your wars against the new non rich

**The Kraken** · 11-04-20, 03:34 PM

Originally posted by gauchojake

Minor drug offenders fill your prisons you don't even flinch
All our taxes paying for your wars against the new non rich

Exactly

**magpie878** · 11-04-20, 03:39 PM

"Affect nobody but themselves" is a bit much...

Low lives leech off the system, lie/cheat/steal from from friends/family/others. Or worse.

Of course it's not EVERYONE, but it never is. But it's hardly a nobody-but-themselves thing.

**marcoloco** · 11-04-20, 03:53 PM

Originally posted by magpie878

"Affect nobody but themselves" is a bit much...Low lives leech off the system, lie/cheat/steal from from friends/family/others. Or worse.
Of course it's not EVERYONE, but it never is. But it's hardly a nobody-but-themselves thing.

Spot on man. A lot of degens here but its obvious they have never been around addicts or had much experience with crack heads before.

**Snowball** · 11-04-20, 04:00 PM

Originally posted by swordsandtequila

Yeah, why require anything of the parents

I had great parents but still did drugs

think I'm not alone on that bro

**KVB** · 11-04-20, 04:02 PM

The reasoning and the aim to decrminalize those with a problem isn't bad, but I have a feeling this is going to empower the partiersand those less apt to develop problems later.

I like the movement to shift to handling these things differently, but I'm sure there will be growing pains as the shift occurs.

**Gonz312** · 11-04-20, 04:34 PM

Originally posted by magpie878

"Affect nobody but themselves" is a bit much...

Low lives leech off the system, lie/cheat/steal from from friends/family/others. Or worse.

Of course it's not EVERYONE, but it never is. But it's hardly a nobody-but-themselves thing.

I understand that and probably should of worded it differently. I definitely agree it affects their families the most and I would think that the family themselves would rather see them in treatment centers than jails.

As for the other crimes that might stem from addiction like robbery, assualt, etc. Those things will still be criminalized as they should be.

**swordsandtequila** · 11-04-20, 04:46 PM

Originally posted by Snowball

I had great parents but still did drugs

think I'm not alone on that bro

And hopefully they set a better example, were better role models than the government, athletes, actors, etc. You want smaller government, this is a good starting point.

**BeatTheJerk** · 11-04-20, 04:55 PM

Originally posted by beerman2619

Hunter Biden moving to Oregon

**PaperTrail07** · 11-04-20, 04:56 PM

They do it all anyways!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL.....

"Affect nobody but themselves" is a bit much...Low lives leech off the system, lie/cheat/steal from from friends/family/others. Or worse.
Of course it's not EVERYONE, but it never is. But it's hardly a nobody-but-themselves thing

Originally posted by marcoloco

Spot on man. A lot of degens here but its obvious they have never been around addicts or had much experience with crack heads before.

**stevek173** · 11-04-20, 06:07 PM

The fuk?

**JIBBBY** · 11-04-20, 06:24 PM

Originally posted by Chi_archie

very insightful analysis

I know you're being sarcastic Chi.. I still like ya though bud.

I base my insightful Analysis on hard stats with the State of Colorado as the most legalized weed State in America today.. Stats show the State is seeing more crime and problems now since the legalization of just weed..

Try throwing Crack, Heroin, Opioids, etc into that mix also and good luck with that!!!

**DiggityDaggityDo** · 11-04-20, 06:33 PM

What happens if a junkie keeps piling up $100 fines and never pays them.

If I’m a junkie and I suck a few cocks to earn $100 I can guarantee you I’m getting my
next fix instead of paying a fine.

Junkies gonna junkie.

**Ghenghis Kahn** · 11-04-20, 06:35 PM

This is nothing new and there are studies that prove legalizing all drugs is actually the way to go.

Look at Portugal...

People have been brainwashed by Nancy Reagan "Just Say No" bullshit while she was popping pills (yes her daughter admits this).

Junkies will do drugs no matter what, it's about time they find a better solution than to put them in jails. They're just gonna come out and relapse.

**Ghenghis Kahn** · 11-04-20, 06:38 PM

FYI, psychedelics brought us the double Helix, personal computers, woke JFK, PCR, etc...

**JIBBBY** · 11-04-20, 06:43 PM

Originally posted by Ghenghis Kahn

This is nothing new and there are studies that prove legalizing all drugs is actually the way to go.

Look at Portugal...

People have been brainwashed by Nancy Reagan "Just Say No" bullshit while she was popping pills (yes her daughter admits this).

Junkies will do drugs no matter what, it's about time they find a better solution than to put them in jails. They're just gonna come out and relapse.

I just think you'll get more young people hooked and living in tents and homeless on the streets if you do that. You just open up the flood gates. Hard drugs are the killer of all motivation and addictive...

I use to think legalization is the way to go but not anymore.. Not when I see homeless tent cities popping up everywhere in cities and people getting high and throwing used needles everywhere where kids use to play...

**stake1** · 11-04-20, 06:47 PM

Just in time, hunter can run the operation and test all product

**Ghenghis Kahn** · 11-04-20, 06:51 PM

Originally posted by JIBBBY

I just think you'll get more young people hooked and living in tents and homeless on the streets if you do that. You just open up the flood gates. Hard drugs are the killer of all motivation and addictive...

I use to think legalization is the way to go but not anymore.. Not when I see homeless tent cities popping up everywhere in cities and people getting high and throwing used needles everywhere where kids use to play...

Well there are deeper issues. I'm not for meth, cocaine, crack, or heroin but you have to remember, most of these people became junkies from taking pain meds like Oxycontin. When they start building tolerance and can't get the prescriptions or can't afford it. They find heroin off the streets. No one wakes up one day and says, "I'm gonna stick a needle in my arms and inject this black shit to feel normal." Big Pharma is to blame for the opioid epidemic.

Having said that, drugs like weed, shrooms, LSD, MDMA should all be legal, especially when it's used medicinally.

War on Drugs is bullshit. Americans love drugs too much.