Mike zimmer needs to be executed
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cincinnatikid513SBR Aristocracy
- 11-23-17
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#36Comment -
d2betsBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 08-10-05
- 39994
#37I actually liked the move to go for it on 4th. It was 4th and maybe an inch. You get it and the game is over. They were getting huge chunks of yards on every running play before that. They kick to go up by 8 and you know Wilson goes down and ties it. They played to win and it didn’t work out.Comment -
d2betsBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 08-10-05
- 39994
#38Zimmer made 3 massive mistakes
1. went for 2 in the 3Q
2. didn't go for 2 with 7 mins left in the 4Q to go up 6 instead of 5
3. didn't kick the FG on 4th down late to go up 8
the irony in all of this is that he would've kicked the FG there late if he had just never gone for 2 in the 3Q and kicked the XP. that's why you never chase points in the 3QComment -
lakerboySBR Aristocracy
- 04-02-09
- 94379
#40Zimmer made 3 massive mistakes
1. went for 2 in the 3Q
2. didn't go for 2 with 7 mins left in the 4Q to go up 6 instead of 5
3. didn't kick the FG on 4th down late to go up 8
the irony in all of this is that he would've kicked the FG there late if he had just never gone for 2 in the 3Q and kicked the XP. that's why you never chase points in the 3QComment -
NardVaSBR Hall of Famer
- 10-02-07
- 8325
#42But the stat guys can't put a number on momentum and doubt in a player's head. Seattle stopping the Vikings on 4th and 1 creates momentum and gives them life whereas going down 8 would have put a little more doubt in their head.Comment -
lakerboySBR Aristocracy
- 04-02-09
- 94379
#43Comment -
WrongsideSBR MVP
- 09-26-15
- 3579
#45Going for two in the 3rd was dumb, cause you don't really want to tie it up against RW and Pete. If you are still behind, they are generally a very passive offense and RW's competitive juices aren't flowing the same...Comment -
OrbisonSBR MVP
- 09-07-20
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#46you never chase points in the 3Q, never. what was the value in trying to tie the game at 21 in the 3Q? none. in fact, it's quite the negative value proposition because if you miss you're now down 2 and if your opponent scores a TD after that, you're down 9.Comment -
cincinnatikid513SBR Aristocracy
- 11-23-17
- 45360
#47players didn't executeComment -
NardVaSBR Hall of Famer
- 10-02-07
- 8325
#48It's called pressure. That's why you go up 8 instead of 5. Being up 8 puts more pressure on Seattle. Being up 5 actually put more pressure on the Vikings. Players do stupid things under pressure.Comment -
lakerboySBR Aristocracy
- 04-02-09
- 94379
#49Don't bother. Democrats are part of the analytics thing.Comment -
NardVaSBR Hall of Famer
- 10-02-07
- 8325
#50Any Superbowl winning head coach (Andy Reid, Bill Belichick, Mike Tomlin, etc) would have went up 8. This is why Zimmerman has no Superbowl rings as a head coach and little to no playoff success.Comment -
OrbisonSBR MVP
- 09-07-20
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#52also, when Zimmer didn't for 2 in the 4Q with around 7 mins left, i immediately thought "hmmmm ok, so you'd rather be up 5 than potentially 4 (if you go for 2 and miss). that's a bit against the grain but makes SOME sense IF you think you can add a FG later and stretch it to 8."
so by NOT going for 2 in the 4th, he was essentially committing himself to kicking a FG later on in the game to go up 8 IF the opportunity presented itself. well, as we know... that opportunity DID come, he had the chance to go up 8... but doesn't kick the chip shot FG?? what that did, as a result, was make the XP he kicked to go up 5 meaningless.
if you're kicking the XP earlier in the 4th to go up 5, then you absolutely MUST kick the FG later to go up 8 if given the chance,otherwise you're negated the entire purpose of kicking the XP earlier to go up 5. to me that's just baffling how he could screw that decision up once he had already laid the groundwork for it earlier.Comment -
d2betsBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 08-10-05
- 39994
#53And if they kixk the FG and Wilson goes down and gets the 8 for OT, everyone here screams and says that's why you go for it on 4th and inches so you don't give Wilson the ball.Comment -
NardVaSBR Hall of Famer
- 10-02-07
- 8325
#55Bingo. Just take the points. To much time left to play all the what if scenarios. If he kicks the extra point in the 3rd (go up 27-21) then he doesn't go for it on 4th and short in the 4th. It's like he was trying to make up for the bad decision from the 3rd quarter.Comment -
lakerboySBR Aristocracy
- 04-02-09
- 94379
#57No they don't. In case you didn't notice sea missed the 2 point conversion. Why Make it easy? Make them get 8. That's the hardest thing to do right?Comment -
INVEGA MANSBR Hall of Famer
- 01-30-08
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#59I had Minn ml, so you know how I feel!! KICK THE DAMN FG. THEN THEY HAVE TO SCORE A TD AND GET THE 2 point conversation just to go into OVERTIME!! SMFH!!Comment -
lakerboySBR Aristocracy
- 04-02-09
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Hot JerrySBR Hall of Famer
- 08-16-13
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DrunkHorseplayerSBR Hall of Famer
- 05-15-10
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#63The 4th and 1 was a good call with poor execution; the decision to go for 2 in the 3rd quarter was a poor call. As Orbison said, chasing points is foolish.Comment -
AllureSBR Hall of Famer
- 08-18-10
- 7606
#64Best was Minny TT over, cashed that - needed it after Rivers' interception show
As for Minny losing, that's what shit teams do unfortunatelyComment -
Eddy MunnyRestricted User
- 08-13-13
- 15767
#65You get less than a yard and the game is over. Giving Russ the ball back with an opportunity to win/tie is a scenario we've seen a thousand times before and we already know how it ends.
You saw how quickly Seattle went 94 yards for a touchdown, if the Vikes kick a field goal it just means the Seahawks probably would've only had to go 75 yards for a touchdown. Do you really want your hopes pinned on stopping Russ from getting a 2 point conversion after your defense is already gassed, when you could have ended the game by basically a forward lean?
It's like when the Chargers could have gone for it on 4th and 1 when they played the Chiefs but punted it away because it was the "right" thing to do. Welp, you give Mahomes the ball, you get what you wish for. Same thing with Russ, you don't give them life if you have a chance to go for the kill.
We're talking less than a yard here. It's not like it was 4th and 3. Hindsight is always 20/20. I thought it was the right decision, poor execution.Comment -
soobvSBR Hustler
- 05-31-16
- 69
#66It was clearly the right call. Seattle D has been horrendous this year. 4th and inches for the win with kneel downs. You also have to factor in that Seattle were touchdown favorites and if it goes to OT Seattle is the better team and a big fav in OT. If you were Seattle and -7 for the game and in the same situation here you may kick the fg, but 7 pt road dog needing a few inches to keep the ball out of Wilson’s hands, you do it all day.Comment -
CamNewtonOutfitSBR Wise Guy
- 09-26-16
- 525
#67sorry i dont agree here... you kick a FG, then Seattle needs to go down 95 yards in 1 min 55 sec score 7, then convert the 2, no way they would have done that, lucky me... im a few $1000s richer now... yay!
glad im not from mn.Comment -
Luckycharms2012SBR MVP
- 10-07-12
- 2422
#68It was obvious what happened, we all know what happened, and some of us got ******. CONGRATS TO THE UNDER BACKERS FOR penetrate SAKES! COMPLETE HORSESHIT, and it's even worse to sit here and read how people are trying to justify this foolishness because they won their bet, the shit was fixed, Zimmer didn't want the points, thats why they choked away the extra point in the 3rd with that stupid ass play for a 2 pt conversion that didn't work, and then they should have went for 2 earlier in the 4th and didn't, and then didn't kick the FG at the end choking away the game with ANOTHER horrible 2pt playcall, it's all about the points. That's why everyone is saying "the game was so strange" of course it was strange, they are trying to get the thrilling ending and still keep the game under, thats why Seattle scores no points in the 1st half and then all of a sudden 27 points to win by exactly 1 and keep the number under by .5, stop being naïve. I'm sick of this shit with Russell Wilson, Dak Prescott and Aaron Rodgers pulling this type of crap all the time, i've seen this no points in 1st half and then 4 TDs in 1 qtr bullshit before. The first half went by so quickly even the announcer mentioned it, but the 2nd half went on forever. Dallas loves to do this shit too, go down big and then come back, it's bullshit and for ratings. Play the game the right way from the start of the game! Glad that fuk Dak broke his foot, karma for all the bullshit he's been involved with, won't have to watch them not play for 3 qtrs and then come back anymore. Russell Wilson definitely got karma coming for him.Last edited by Luckycharms2012; 10-12-20, 06:54 AM.Comment
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