Simulation gambling is beatable

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  • jjgold
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 07-20-05
    • 388189

    #1
    Simulation gambling is beatable
    Folks are getting crushed they keep taking games off the board and on the board
  • TommieGunshot
    SBR MVP
    • 03-27-12
    • 1586

    #2
    Your evidence for why it's possible to win money betting simulated games is because there are people losing money betting them. I love it.
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    • ibetyouadollar
      SBR High Roller
      • 01-26-18
      • 200

      #3
      Originally posted by jjgold
      Folks are getting crushed they keep taking games off the board and on the board
      only thing...theres no real way that you can handicap sim games IMO.
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      • asiagambler
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 07-23-17
        • 6831

        #4
        Definitely beatable. Seems like the books are just guessing along with everyone else. Someone with lots and lots of hours of playing these can know what tendencies are and what makes the engine tick. I don't know how long these games take or if there's a way to speed them up but you can make a very accurate model just by running the simulation lots of times and running simple statistical analysis
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        • carolinakid
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 01-12-11
          • 19106

          #5
          only ever play 4 games here and i went 3-1
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          • Golden fleece
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 09-25-18
            • 858

            #6
            home teams on back to backs where the road team lost their previous game against the spread has been a cash cow
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            • juicername
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 10-14-15
              • 6906

              #7
              Originally posted by Golden fleece
              home teams on back to backs where the road team lost their previous game against the spread has been a cash cow
              The situational edges must be massive! I'll try my sdql systems for the next couple of games.
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              • trytrytry
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 03-13-06
                • 23649

                #8
                SBR BETPOINT SIM wagering is open for today April 15th Tax day LOL

                https://www.sportsbookreview.com/for...portsbook.html
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                • Sam Odom
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 10-30-05
                  • 58063

                  #9

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                  • wakefield23
                    SBR High Roller
                    • 03-08-13
                    • 179

                    #10
                    Do you realize you can modify the sliders, right? Shit is rigged as f uck
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                    • big joe 1212
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 06-01-08
                      • 19379

                      #11
                      Books are making money off them. If they weren’t, they’d shut it down
                      Last edited by big joe 1212; 04-15-20, 11:38 AM.
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                      • SBR_Guest_Pro
                        SBR MVP
                        • 02-10-15
                        • 3955

                        #12
                        how do you beat them
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                        • johnnyvegas13
                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                          • 05-21-15
                          • 27819

                          #13
                          U sound like a jerk talking up sim sports
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                          • clockwise1965
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 10-01-13
                            • 6753

                            #14
                            Slow down JJ.
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                            • raiders72001
                              Senior Member
                              • 08-10-05
                              • 11048

                              #15
                              You either have to run more sims than the book or figure out the fixed side to get an edge.
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                              • jjgold
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 07-20-05
                                • 388189

                                #16
                                Some people are running the same exact simulation models and re-creating the match ups and then going off their outcomes
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                                • Sam Odom
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 10-30-05
                                  • 58063

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by raiders72001


                                  You either have to run more sims than the book or figure out the fixed side to get an edge.


                                  raiders knows...
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                                  • asiagambler
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 07-23-17
                                    • 6831

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by jjgold
                                    Some people are running the same exact simulation models and re-creating the match ups and then going off their outcomes
                                    Yes. I would imagine a hack is possible to play through the Sim instantly. Then you can have thousands of games of data
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                                    • DiggityDaggityDo
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 11-30-08
                                      • 81454

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by wakefield23
                                      Do you realize you can modify the sliders, right? Shit is rigged as f uck
                                      They show the settings before every game.
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                                      • clockwise1965
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 10-01-13
                                        • 6753

                                        #20
                                        Rigged
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                                        • DiggityDaggityDo
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 11-30-08
                                          • 81454

                                          #21
                                          I fukkin love the NFL games


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                                          • mrpapageorgio
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 09-07-17
                                            • 2974

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by asiagambler
                                            Yes. I would imagine a hack is possible to play through the Sim instantly. Then you can have thousands of games of data
                                            That would be my guess. Tech person can run through the simulation thousands of times using the CPU of the console.

                                            One of the variables you'd have to account for is if XBox or PS4's CPU has any tendencies or bias in the calculations when running the simulation probabilities.
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                                            • Bcatswin
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 12-21-10
                                              • 13931

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by wakefield23
                                              Do you realize you can modify the sliders, right? Shit is rigged as f uck
                                              They show all settings with the sliders pregame. Then it does not change, you could see the pause and change if they did. Not happening.
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                                              • Bcatswin
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 12-21-10
                                                • 13931

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by DiggityDaggityDo
                                                I fukkin love the NFL games


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                                                • jjgold
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 07-20-05
                                                  • 388189

                                                  #25
                                                  Bcat has a system
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                                                  • KVB
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 05-29-14
                                                    • 74817

                                                    #26
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                                                    • Bcatswin
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 12-21-10
                                                      • 13931

                                                      #27
                                                      Good start

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                                                      • jjgold
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 07-20-05
                                                        • 388189

                                                        #28
                                                        Bcat your hurting books
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                                                        • Bcatswin
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 12-21-10
                                                          • 13931

                                                          #29
                                                          Chalk up another jj

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                                                          • jjgold
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 07-20-05
                                                            • 388189

                                                            #30
                                                            Wow!
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                                                            • gopolks
                                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                                              • 11-16-12
                                                              • 791

                                                              #31
                                                              So your not talking esports here??? Just a computer simulation??
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                                                              • Bcatswin
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 12-21-10
                                                                • 13931

                                                                #32
                                                                Esports as well.
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                                                                • Bcatswin
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 12-21-10
                                                                  • 13931

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Got that specifically on other threads.
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                                                                  • petey7979
                                                                    SBR High Roller
                                                                    • 11-18-19
                                                                    • 143

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Why doesn't Heritage offer the simulations? Bookmaker is my new book now
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                                                                    • stevenash
                                                                      Moderator
                                                                      • 01-17-11
                                                                      • 65233

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by juicername
                                                                      The situational edges must be massive! I'll try my sdql systems for the next couple of games.
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