Is Mahomes Already one of the Top QBs ever?

thetrinity · 02-02-20, 11:05 PM

Yep one coin toss away probably from b2b

jjgold · 02-02-20, 11:06 PM

Yes

GunShard · 02-02-20, 11:21 PM

Yes because Pat Mahomes plays QB like Russell Wilson and Aaron Rodgers.

wikkidinsane · 02-02-20, 11:21 PM

no.

Kermit · 02-02-20, 11:24 PM

The numbers don't lie.

seaborneq · 02-02-20, 11:28 PM

Definitely performs well in big games. That is something that only a handful of QB's in history have done.

WvGambler · 02-02-20, 11:31 PM

I want to say no, because his age but damn....it’s hard to argue. We have a lot of time to decide, luckily.

lakerboy · 02-02-20, 11:34 PM

No. He did nothing today

Kermit · 02-02-20, 11:35 PM

Originally posted by lakerboy

No. He did nothing today

He just beat the "Best" Defense in the NFL and won the MVP of the game.

Okieirish · 02-02-20, 11:36 PM

IDK. He was going against Garappolo. He won a Super Bowl. That accounts for something !

lakerboy · 02-02-20, 11:38 PM

Originally posted by Kermit

He just beat the "Best" Defense in the NFL and won the MVP of the game.

Lol okay. You think he deserves MVP throwing two picks and one td?

wikkidinsane · 02-02-20, 11:44 PM

Originally posted by lakerboy

Lol okay. You think he deserves MVP throwing two picks and one td?

laker he had two tds passing and he also rushed for a td

Kermit · 02-02-20, 11:47 PM

Originally posted by lakerboy

Lol okay. You think he deserves MVP throwing two picks and one td?

C'mon man. Did you actually watch the game?

lakerboy · 02-02-20, 11:48 PM

Originally posted by Kermit

C'mon man. Did you actually watch the game?

Yes. He made the great throw to hill. Other then that he did nothing. The running back Williams deserved MVP

lakerboy · 02-02-20, 11:49 PM

Books called it in. They weren't going to pay MVP on huge odds

Kermit · 02-02-20, 11:51 PM

Originally posted by lakerboy

Books called it in. They weren't going to pay MVP on huge odds

Yeah, these books that took in shit money on Williams and Big Money on Mahomes called it in to lose their money.

asiagambler · 02-02-20, 11:53 PM

Mahomes got it because of name recognition. If that was Garoppolo that threw two picks, he wouldn't have gotten it

Plaza23 · 02-02-20, 11:54 PM

He'll go down as one of the best ever. Mobile, throw the ball 80 yards, can take off and run for 40, smart, and a good all around dude. His skillset is very similar to Aaron Rodgers, but I think he does everything a little bit better than Rodgers does.

lakerboy · 02-02-20, 11:55 PM

Originally posted by asiagambler

Mahomes got it because of name recognition. If that was Garoppolo that threw two picks, he wouldn't have gotten it

Exactly

Kermit · 02-02-20, 11:55 PM

Originally posted by asiagambler

Mahomes got it because of name recognition. If that was Garoppolo that threw two picks, he wouldn't have gotten it

Garoppolo also wouldn't have tried to run and pick up any first downs, let alone run and score a TD.

Name recognition

Ghenghis Kahn · 02-02-20, 11:57 PM

Tyreek Hill was the MVP of the Super Bowl. KC had no chance of winning without him.

lakerboy · 02-02-20, 11:58 PM

Kermit you are on the wrong side of this debate. Move on

asiagambler · 02-02-20, 11:59 PM

Originally posted by Ghenghis Kahn

Tyreek Hill was the MVP of the Super Bowl. KC had no chance of winning without him.

I agree but no chance they would give it to him

asiagambler · 02-03-20, 12:00 AM

Originally posted by Kermit

Garoppolo also wouldn't have tried to run and pick up any first downs, let alone run and score a TD.

Name recognition

What if Mahomes went 21/30 for 256 yards with 1 TD and 1 INT? Is that an automatic MVP in your mind?

Kermit · 02-03-20, 12:05 AM

Originally posted by asiagambler

What if Mahomes went 21/30 for 256 yards with 1 TD and 1 INT? Is that an automatic MVP in your mind?

If he did that, the Chiefs wouldn't have won and he wouldn't have gotten the MVP.

What the Hell is wrong with you?

Kermit · 02-03-20, 12:06 AM

Originally posted by lakerboy

Kermit you are on the wrong side of this debate. Move on

What exactly are you even trying to argue?

wikkidinsane · 02-03-20, 12:06 AM

Originally posted by asiagambler

What if Mahomes went 21/30 for 256 yards with 1 TD and 1 INT? Is that an automatic MVP in your mind?

he didnt though? And dont leave out his rush td

asiagambler · 02-03-20, 12:06 AM

Originally posted by Kermit

If he did that, the Chiefs wouldn't have won and he wouldn't have gotten the MVP.

What the Hell is wrong with you?

How do you know they wouldn't have won? There aren't other ways to score touchdowns?

asiagambler · 02-03-20, 12:07 AM

Originally posted by wikkidinsane

he didnt though? And dont leave out his rush td

I'm just seeing how he responds is all. I can't ever remember a QB getting Super Bowl MVP with 2 picks

Kermit · 02-03-20, 12:07 AM

Originally posted by asiagambler

How do you know they wouldn't have won? There aren't other ways to score touchdowns?

How do I know they wouldn't have won? Because I watched the game.

Are you living on Bizarro world or some shit?

asiagambler · 02-03-20, 12:10 AM

Originally posted by Kermit

How do I know they wouldn't have won? Because I watched the game.

Are you living on Bizarro world or some shit?

So it's impossible for Williams to get that 1 extra yard that would have made Mahomes' rushing touchdown unnecessary?

Why can't you just answer the question instead of deflecting?

Quarterbacks have won with that stat line before.

In fact, a quarterback won with that stat line in the Super Bowl so contrary to what you think, it is possible to win with those numbers

I'm just seeing if you think that's an automatic MVP

Kermit · 02-03-20, 12:19 AM

Originally posted by asiagambler

So it's impossible for Williams to get that 1 extra yard that would have made Mahomes' rushing touchdown unnecessary?

Why can't you just answer the question instead of deflecting?

Quarterbacks have won with that stat line before.

In fact, a quarterback won with that stat line in the Super Bowl so contrary to what you think, it is possible to win with those numbers

I'm just seeing if you think that's an automatic MVP

Who was more clutch, Mahomes or Willaims?

asiagambler · 02-03-20, 12:20 AM

Originally posted by Kermit

Who was more clutch, Mahomes or Willaims?

Mahomes was more clutch

(That's how you answer a question)

Kermit · 02-03-20, 12:23 AM

Mahomes: 286 yards 2 passing TDs 29 yards rushing(technically 44 with a loss of 15 on final play to run clock out) with a rushing TD and he threw 2 picks

Williams: 104 rushing yards with a TD and 29 receiving yards with a TD

No sane person is going to give Williams the MVP.