Why are american touts so awful and overpriced?

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  • pinnacle420
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 10-01-12
    • 6254

    #71
    Originally posted by Chi_archie
    how much did Pinnacle, Brock Landers and kurt lauderdale charge back in the day?
    Keep my name out of your mouth Archie!! You don’t want no smoke dude
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    • 2daBank
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 01-26-09
      • 88966

      #72
      Originally posted by pinnacle420
      Tours are business men just like a day trader....

      it’s all a sales pitch... just like anything else...

      some people buy the dream and some don’t...

      if someone is willing to pay for picks that’s their decision...

      nobody puts a gun to someone’s head and makes them venmo thousands of dollars...

      don’t hate the player... hate the game...

      100%..... drops mic
      I used to feel differently but pretty much agree with this now days: what did the legendary card player say about it being immoral to let a sucker keep his money?
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      • firedawg
        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
        • 10-08-08
        • 39219

        #73
        Originally posted by 2daBank
        What going on? What was the infraction for?
        Because I'm the bad guy and I hurt pmike feelings
        So time to ban me for bs
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        • Easy-Rider 66
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          • 02-14-12
          • 36879

          #74
          Originally posted by pinnacle420
          Touts are business men just like a day trader....

          it’s all a sales pitch... just like anything else...

          some people buy the dream and some don’t...

          if someone is willing to pay for picks that’s their decision...

          nobody puts a gun to someone’s head and makes them venmo thousands of dollars...

          don’t hate the player... hate the game...

          100%..... drops mic
          Agree with most you posted here. But touts sell a lie. For those that buy picks put down the pipe. It's all a pipe dream.
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          • firedawg
            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
            • 10-08-08
            • 39219

            #75
            Originally posted by 2daBank
            What going on? What was the infraction for?
            Because I made a joke About him contacting Kurt
            Obviously a joke

            And I hurt pmike feelings so mods will get rid of the bad guy

            Happened countless times last year
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            • funnyb25
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              • 07-09-09
              • 39663

              #76
              We Got Games!
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              • firedawg
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                • 10-08-08
                • 39219

                #77
                Originally posted by funnyb25
                We Got Games!
                Obviously lol
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                • 2daBank
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 01-26-09
                  • 88966

                  #78
                  Originally posted by firedawg
                  Because I made a joke About him contacting Kurt
                  Obviously a joke

                  And I hurt pmike feelings so mods will get rid of the bad guy

                  Happened countless times last year
                  You not a bad guy in my book pal. Who you on this weekend nfl?
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                  • Optional
                    Administrator
                    • 06-10-10
                    • 61875

                    #79
                    Originally posted by firedawg
                    Pretty penetrating sad actually

                    Pmike threatens to knock my teeth out
                    No infraction

                    I joke around about tout shit I get oNe



                    Lmaooooooooo

                    Get a life optional
                    How the hell do you know what happens to Pimike ? You're an habitual liar always making false statements of facts like that.

                    Same as claiming it is "Fake News" that you have been banned for trying to tout here before.

                    Just a bald faced lie.


                    During the last week I have seen you giving it hard to Hman and Pimike over and again, trolling basically. Personally and picking at both over and again to get a reaction.

                    But you are gonna cry now about me coming back at you once! You're pathetic pal.


                    Anyway, full disclosure, I plan to come at you every chance you give me. You do it daily to other people. Now you are going to get a taste of it yourself unless you stop right now. Or we get back to 3 permanent points. (-500 it takes less than a week to get to 3)

                    You add almost zero positives and just spend your days trying to upset people. Mercilessly and personally ripping into Hman the other day was the last straw. If I had see that interaction in real time you would be gone now.

                    Any rule you break in pubic I see gets you and infraction.
                    .
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                    • 2daBank
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 01-26-09
                      • 88966

                      #80
                      Not gonna lie. This version of opti lately has me fired up!! Like it or not He been getting after it from the posting side!!! He buried some clown yesterday!! Shit great!!
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                      • firedawg
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                        • 10-08-08
                        • 39219

                        #81
                        Originally posted by Optional
                        How the hell do you know what happens to Pimike ? You're an habitual liar always making false statements of facts like that.

                        Same as claiming it is "Fake News" that you have been banned for trying to tout here before.

                        Just a bald faced lie.


                        During the last week I have seen you giving it hard to Hman and Pimike over and again, trolling basically. Personally and picking at both over and again to get a reaction.

                        But you are gonna cry now about me coming back at you once! You're pathetic pal.


                        Anyway, full disclosure, I plan to come at you every chance you give me. You do it daily to other people. Now you are going to get a taste of it yourself unless you stop right now. Or we get back to 3 permanent points. (-500 it takes less than a week to get to 3)

                        You add almost zero positives and just spend your days trying to upset people. Mercilessly and personally ripping into Hman the other day was the last straw. If I had see that interaction in real time you would be gone now.

                        Any rule you break in pubic I see gets you and infraction.
                        Lmaooooooooo
                        Unbelievable
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                        • firedawg
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                          • 10-08-08
                          • 39219

                          #82
                          Optional
                          The definition of a biased moderator


                          Hope your boy mike takes up on his threat of knocking my teeth out (non infraction)

                          I'll send you some pictures of him broken in half


                          I never lied once

                          Get the facts straight when you lie on me
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                          • Chi_archie
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 07-22-08
                            • 63172

                            #83
                            Originally posted by vivaporto
                            Why was he fired. Was he paid staff or volunteer working for points?
                            He was employed for over ten years, lived and worked down at Costa Rica offices. Not employed to give picks per se, but he was a big pick of the north American and forum facing media, which at times included shows with various touts and industry personalities talking about picks. In the last few years he did a lot more shows like that with Brenner or the bag, where he made many picks too. He's incredibly sharp from a numbers stand point the industry in general.

                            I don't know why the employment ended, he mentioned at one point that he was in disagreement with the direction his bosses wanted to go or they were did satisfied with some things he was doing in and out of work


                            Big fan of loshak and sbr media. (Especially JoJo, Jackie blue, and Mr. D)
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                            • Optional
                              Administrator
                              • 06-10-10
                              • 61875

                              #84
                              Originally posted by firedawg

                              Because I'm the bad guy and I hurt pmike feelings
                              So time to ban me for bs
                              Did you even get a warning about attacking Pimike?

                              You're such a sad victim type.

                              Ask your other pals involved in that stuff what happened to them. Ask Pimike what was said to him.


                              But you are crying it's all about you!?

                              This infraction is due to a KNOWN TOUT, who has been let back for some bloody reason, who thinks it's funny to tell someone else they will help get them setup.

                              And me being sick of your crap was set off by attacking Hman.


                              But you keep crying it is about favoring Pimike. (who I do favor over you. He's a great guy on forum and in person, against you who is a total jerk on forum and never made the effort to come to an event in person)
                              .
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                              • Chi_archie
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 07-22-08
                                • 63172

                                #85
                                Originally posted by firedawg
                                Optional
                                The definition of a biased moderator


                                Hope your boy mike takes up on his threat of knocking my teeth out (non infraction)

                                I'll send you some pictures of him broken in half


                                I never lied once

                                Get the facts straight when you lie on me
                                Are you going to break PIMike in half?

                                Do you want to?

                                Careful Mike is a real private investigator and he trains police forces on self defense and I'm sure he carries a gun at all times. Use caution
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                                • firedawg
                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                  • 10-08-08
                                  • 39219

                                  #86
                                  Thank god I didn't renew

                                  Same thing as last year lol


                                  Peace out

                                  I didn't read shit either of you said
                                  I'm not getting baited again
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                                  • Chi_archie
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 07-22-08
                                    • 63172

                                    #87
                                    If doggy got an infraction there, shouldnt I get one for linking his Twitter touting?

                                    Just being fair
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                                    • 2daBank
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 01-26-09
                                      • 88966

                                      #88
                                      I don’t know how the stuff started w you and mike but I’ve always got along with Pimike. I’ve never seen him post like he has with you lately. I’m sure I missed some stuff.
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                                      • reigle9
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 10-25-07
                                        • 17879

                                        #89
                                        Gee wonder why you made that life altering decision to not "reup"

                                        I thought everyone just didn't care you're a tout, vote Democrat.
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                                        • firedawg
                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                          • 10-08-08
                                          • 39219

                                          #90
                                          Originally posted by Chi_archie
                                          If doggy got an infraction there, shouldnt I get one for linking his Twitter touting?

                                          Just being fair
                                          There's no fairness about it
                                          Like always optional tries to come of hard by calling me a victim lol
                                          And I don't go to bashes so I'm bad
                                          Mike does so he can do what he wants then snitch like a 5 year old Lmaooooooooo


                                          Do y'all thing optional
                                          We both know the truth
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                                          • reigle9
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 10-25-07
                                            • 17879

                                            #91
                                            4 days into the new year. I would've lost that bet Rudy would've already made an I'm gone thread
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                                            • firedawg
                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                              • 10-08-08
                                              • 39219

                                              #92
                                              Originally posted by 2daBank
                                              I don’t know how the stuff started w you and mike but I’ve always got along with Pimike. I’ve never seen him post like he has with you lately. I’m sure I missed some stuff.
                                              100% on him
                                              Then reports me when I fire back
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                                              • Chi_archie
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 07-22-08
                                                • 63172

                                                #93
                                                Welcome back !

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                                                • firedawg
                                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                  • 10-08-08
                                                  • 39219

                                                  #94
                                                  For the record I was joking around with this guy

                                                  Optional saw an opportunity to give me an infraction so he did

                                                  Now he's made it clear I'll be gone shortly by saying he will be waiting for my next slip up to ban me

                                                  All truth
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                                                  • 2daBank
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 01-26-09
                                                    • 88966

                                                    #95
                                                    Originally posted by firedawg
                                                    100% on him
                                                    Then reports me when I fire back
                                                    Hmmm. You know I’m not a fan of the reporting. We all big boys who give it so should be able to take it back. How you know he reported you? I’ve never known who reported me. I usually think it random who should mind their own business! Or the usual suspects who big on snitching.
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                                                    • newton0038
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 03-07-07
                                                      • 2389

                                                      #96
                                                      $99 Event Special on WWE World Collide January 25th 2020
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                                                      • stevenash
                                                        Moderator
                                                        • 01-17-11
                                                        • 65727

                                                        #97
                                                        Do your own homework you don’t need a tout.
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                                                        • reigle9
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 10-25-07
                                                          • 17879

                                                          #98
                                                          Originally posted by firedawg
                                                          Pretty penetrating sad actually

                                                          Pmike threatens to knock my teeth out
                                                          No infraction

                                                          I joke around about tout shit I get oNe



                                                          Lmaooooooooo

                                                          Get a life optional
                                                          is he a black in dental school by chance?
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                                                          • 2daBank
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 01-26-09
                                                            • 88966

                                                            #99
                                                            Originally posted by stevenash
                                                            Do your own homework you don’t need a tout.
                                                            I don’t even understand the point? I enjoy capping them much more than the action. No tout gonna make you rich, if that the goal your time and money could be spent more wisely! Lol
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                                                            • Gaze73
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 01-27-14
                                                              • 3291

                                                              #100
                                                              Geez, this blew up lol. Feel free to lock or remove the thread, idc.
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                                                              • Thrilla
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 03-10-15
                                                                • 13809

                                                                #101
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                                                                • The General
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 08-10-05
                                                                  • 13279

                                                                  #102
                                                                  Originally posted by Gaze73
                                                                  Geez, this blew up lol. Feel free to lock or remove the thread, idc.
                                                                  On the bright side, its great entertainment.
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                                                                  • JIBBBY
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 12-10-09
                                                                    • 83686

                                                                    #103
                                                                    More Brit touts then American tout wannabies from what I tracked..
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                                                                    • phinfan27615
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 07-10-17
                                                                      • 1837

                                                                      #104
                                                                      overpriced? 1 cent is too high for a tout, the concept is so obviously a scam, if they could win they would win not sell picks
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                                                                      • PAULYPOKER
                                                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                        • 12-06-08
                                                                        • 36581

                                                                        #105
                                                                        Because people that have no value for money deserve to have it taken from them......

                                                                        Pretty simple really..
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