Texans+4.5 at the Ravens. Seems a little jacked up

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  • lakerboy
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    • 04-02-09
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    #1
    Texans+4.5 at the Ravens. Seems a little jacked up
    I'm sure Watson wants to show he is the man not Jackson. Line is obviously inflated by a point on recency bias. Houston also off the bye.
  • thomorino
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    • 06-01-17
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    #2
    Originally posted by lakerboy
    I'm sure Watson wants to show he is the man not Jackson. Line is obviously inflated by a point on recency bias. Houston also off the bye.
    Houston has no pass rush with att out and Ravens offensive line is one of the best in the NFL, Ravens are also healthy with Smith back and the trade for Peter's really helped them, I'd need at least 6.5 to even consider Houston.
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    • shocka1212
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      • 10-06-12
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      #3
      Texans 3-1 off a bye under Bill Obrien
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      • lakerboy
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        • 04-02-09
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        #4
        Originally posted by thomorino
        Houston has no pass rush with att out and Ravens offensive line is one of the best in the NFL, Ravens are also healthy with Smith back and the trade for Peter's really helped them, I'd need at least 6.5 to even consider Houston.
        You ain't getting no 6.5.
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        • gauchojake
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          #5
          Bill O'brien tho
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          • gauchojake
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            • 09-17-10
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            #6
            What you think about Philly+3.5 and Chargers ML?
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            • jtoler
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              #7
              Originally posted by thomorino
              Houston has no pass rush with att out and Ravens offensive line is one of the best in the NFL, Ravens are also healthy with Smith back and the trade for Peter's really helped them, I'd need at least 6.5 to even consider Houston.
              +4.5 or +6.5 not much difference
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              • lakerboy
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                • 04-02-09
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                #8
                Originally posted by gauchojake
                What you think about Philly+3.5 and Chargers ML?
                I don't like Philly. They might cover but they ain't winning.

                Chargers probably hang because kc can't stop a nosebleed.
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                • Mac4Lyfe
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                  • 01-04-09
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                  #9
                  The Texans are the #3 rush defense for a reason. They go up against Deshawn every day in practice. They struggle against QBs that can sit in the pocket and sling the ball. Can Jackson make the passes? The Ravens have the better defense and at home but a toss up to me. Who plays better at QB will decide it. Im leaning Texans.
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                  • USCPHILLYGUY
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                    • 12-15-12
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by lakerboy
                    I don't like Philly. They might cover but they ain't winning.

                    Chargers probably hang because kc can't stop a nosebleed.
                    Agreed. Philly loses by 7+ here.
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                    • shocka1212
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                      • 10-06-12
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by lakerboy
                      I don't like Philly. They might cover but they ain't winning.

                      Chargers probably hang because kc can't stop a nosebleed.
                      Rivers always loses to them. so annoying.
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                      • lakerboy
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                        • 04-02-09
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by shocka1212
                        Rivers always loses to them. so annoying.
                        He beat them last year on the TNF game. How did you forget?
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                        • 2daBank
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                          • 01-26-09
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by lakerboy
                          I'm sure Watson wants to show he is the man not Jackson. Line is obviously inflated by a point on recency bias. Houston also off the bye.
                          Do we like Houston off a bye tho? I dunno their numbers but I tend to like bye for good coaches, not scrubs.

                          My concern would be ravens secondary has all a sudden become one of the best in the league imo. Smith finally healthy and addition of peters makes their back end very formidable. Houston does have a strong run defense so I might be on Lamar’s arm in this one.
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                          • shocka1212
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                            • 10-06-12
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by lakerboy
                            He beat them last year on the TNF game. How did you forget?
                            because the year before that it was set up for him to go into arrowhead and he made that defense look like the 2000 ravens. still mad about it. lost like $1200 on it. he disgusts me.
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                            • thomorino
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                              • 06-01-17
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by 2daBank

                              Do we like Houston off a bye tho? I dunno their numbers but I tend to like bye for good coaches, not scrubs.

                              My concern would be ravens secondary has all a sudden become one of the best in the league imo. Smith finally healthy and addition of peters makes their back end very formidable. Houston does have a strong run defense so I might be on Lamar’s arm in this one.
                              Ravens running game is far different than a standard one, I wouldn't use traditional stats of run defense.
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                              • 2daBank
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                                • 01-26-09
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by thomorino
                                Ravens running game is far different than a standard one, I wouldn't use traditional stats of run defense.
                                No question. That said obviously you not gonna consider a poor rushing defense vs them correct?
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                                • Big Bear
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                                  • 11-01-11
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by lakerboy
                                  You ain't getting no 6.5.
                                  whether it is 4.5 or 6.5 it will not likely make any difference

                                  field goals are a thing of the past

                                  7 is the key number

                                  anything under a TD I think you gotta roll with the Ravens

                                  Houston’s defense is piss poor now that they don’t have Clowney or JJ Watt
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                                  • 2daBank
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                                    • 01-26-09
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Big Bear
                                    whether it is 4.5 or 6.5 it will not likely make any difference

                                    field goals are a thing of the past

                                    7 is the key number

                                    anything under a TD I think you gotta roll with the Ravens

                                    Houston’s defense is piss poor now that they don’t have Clowney or JJ Watt
                                    You need to get in that handicapping boot camp ASAP!!!
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                                    • Big Bear
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                                      • 11-01-11
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by 2daBank
                                      You need to get in that handicapping boot camp ASAP!!!
                                      name one good player on the Texans defense

                                      and don’t even say Conley
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                                      • thomorino
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                                        • 06-01-17
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by 2daBank
                                        No question. That said obviously you not gonna consider a poor rushing defense vs them correct?
                                        Yeah agree, teams with a bad rush defense aren't stopping the Ravens, but I think it takes more than a traditional run defense to stop ravens, you need the right coaching and personnel like Chargers had in the playoffs. Houston run defense without Watt is different too.

                                        It seems like team like the Patriots seeing Jackson the first time aren't having any success.
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                                        • 2daBank
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                                          • 01-26-09
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by thomorino
                                          Yeah agree, teams with a bad rush defense aren't stopping the Ravens, but I think it takes more than a traditional run defense to stop ravens, you need the right coaching and personnel like Chargers had in the playoffs. Houston run defense without Watt is different too.

                                          It seems like team like the Patriots seeing Jackson the first time aren't having any success.
                                          Yea I loved ravens in that game but kinda unfortunate for them pats got a look at it before the playoffs. Gotta expect hoody and co be much more prepared now that they have seen it up close. The only equalizer would be if ravens can come up with a completely different game plan in playoffs. Which they might.

                                          What makes me super high on ravens now is I think their defense which was a absolute weakness beginning of year now has one of the best secondaries in the league. Hopefully that gives them the opportunities to be creative in ways to generate pressure since they don’t have any great individual pass rushers.
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                                          • RavenDynasty2K20
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                                            • 11-11-19
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                                            #22
                                            run defense will suffer a little in this one. Peko and Ellis 1st game with Ravens..texans take advantage with run game...
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                                            • jjgold
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                                              • 07-20-05
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                                              #23
                                              Always take the points and you have all star QB
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                                              • asiagambler
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                                                • 07-23-17
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                                                #24
                                                Ravens also don't have a pass rush, it is really really bad, probably worse than Houston's

                                                Ravens secondary is improved but how good is it? They get their first real test going against Hopkins and looking like Fuller will be back too

                                                The total interests me a little bit, leaning towards over 49 but that is still a high number
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                                                • grease lightnin
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                                                  • 10-01-12
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                                                  #25
                                                  Line looks right to me.
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                                                  • flakeandbake
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                                                    • 06-21-10
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by jtoler
                                                    +4.5 or +6.5 not much difference
                                                    This one has me with water on the keyboard loling
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                                                    • flakeandbake
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                                                      • 06-21-10
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Big Bear
                                                      whether it is 4.5 or 6.5 it will not likely make any difference

                                                      field goals are a thing of the past

                                                      7 is the key number

                                                      anything under a TD I think you gotta roll with the Ravens

                                                      Houston’s defense is piss poor now that they don’t have Clowney or JJ Watt
                                                      you have it opposite but we'll let it ride
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                                                      • 2daBank
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by asiagambler
                                                        Ravens also don't have a pass rush, it is really really bad, probably worse than Houston's

                                                        Ravens secondary is improved but how good is it? They get their first real test going against Hopkins and looking like Fuller will be back too

                                                        The total interests me a little bit, leaning towards over 49 but that is still a high number
                                                        I think their secondary is potentially really good. 2 very good corners, when smith healthy and when peters wants to play. Very good safeties and pretty good slot guy too., I would think that secondary would allow them to get creative with pressuring packages cause you right they not getting home rushing 4.,
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                                                        • Mr KLC
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                                                          • 12-19-07
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                                                          #29
                                                          Through Week 10, the Texans’ first-quarter point differential of minus-25 ranks 28th and is the worst of any team with a winning record. The Ravens, on the other hand, have the second-best first-quarter point differential at plus-61.
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                                                          • Mr KLC
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                                                            • 12-19-07
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                                                            #30
                                                            Texans have stunk but there has been a 14 point swing at least due to missed pass interference calls today in favor of the Ravens.
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                                                            • NardVa
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                                                              • 10-02-07
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                                                              #31
                                                              Texans went to London looking like a playoff team and came back looking like the Bengals. This is the worse they looked all season.
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                                                              • play4win
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                                                                • 06-23-11
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                                                                #32
                                                                watson is a super bum. that clown has one of elite wr but can't score any points.
                                                                don"t go against hot teams is the key in football
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                                                                • lakerboy
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                                                                  • 04-02-09
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Good thing i didn't take this
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                                                                  • gauchojake
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by gauchojake
                                                                    Bill O'brien tho
                                                                    Literally the worst
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                                                                    • Mr KLC
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                                                                      • 12-19-07
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      If Deshaun Watson re-enters this game now, especially with a Thursday night game upcoming, would be coaching malpractice.
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