Bryce Harper bust or no bust?

**cincinnatikid513** · 08-14-19, 07:10 PM

nobody out performs long contracts they all decline

**jjgold** · 08-14-19, 07:11 PM

Bust

**Roscoe_Word** · 08-14-19, 07:12 PM

Originally posted by cincinnatikid513

nobody out performs long contracts they all decline

Yep.

**Bostongambler** · 08-14-19, 07:17 PM

I vote Bust. Unless you consider a 275 average for 400 million no bust.

**A.M.S.** · 08-14-19, 07:47 PM

Do the Phillies regret it yet ?

**jjgold** · 08-14-19, 08:14 PM

They regret it although having good game tonight

**cincinnatikid513** · 08-14-19, 08:55 PM

who will win a world series first

trout
harper
neither

**DR225** · 08-14-19, 09:17 PM

neither

**49er41580** · 08-14-19, 09:35 PM

Philadelphia sold lots of tickets because of Harper

**lonegambler23** · 08-14-19, 10:45 PM

they should send him down to AAA and get his confidence back

**jtoler** · 08-15-19, 12:13 AM

right where I expected the numbers to be, are his backers still making excuses

**topgame85** · 08-15-19, 12:21 AM

Smart business decision but doesn't mean they win a Series with him.

**49er41580** · 08-15-19, 01:50 AM

Originally posted by topgame85

Smart business decision but doesn't mean they win a Series with him.

Baseball is the ultimate team game, you need pitching 2 win

**JMobile** · 08-15-19, 02:13 AM

This thread is about Manny Machado now.

**juicername** · 08-15-19, 04:23 AM

Calm down, he has many years to make it pay off.

**Roscoe_Word** · 08-15-19, 08:06 AM

IMO, from a betting perspective, I would say bust. His going to the Phillies probably added .20cents to each Philly line. Negative value I would say. The Phillies could get hot, and change that. Think they've won 2 straight at this time.

**jjgold** · 08-15-19, 08:58 AM

Trout one of all time greats proves yearly pitching wins

Replace him with 2 good pitchers and angels relevant

**spippen** · 08-15-19, 10:12 AM

Bust. Some players make their teammates much better with their presence. Ortiz with Boston, Jordan with the Bulls, Clemens and Jeter with NYY. Tom Brady with NE, Favre with Green Bay. Harper "could be" that player but has shown he is not.

**49er41580** · 08-15-19, 10:20 AM

Originally posted by spippen

Bust. Some players make their teammates much better with their presence. Ortiz with Boston, Jordan with the Bulls, Clemens and Jeter with NYY. Tom Brady with NE, Favre with Green Bay. Harper "could be" that player but has shown he is not.

QB have much more impact on a game, then a position baseball player, the best baseball hitter can always just get intentional walk

**BigdaddyQH** · 08-15-19, 10:23 AM

Bust. Very few players are worth that kind of money.

**TheLock** · 08-15-19, 10:35 AM

Originally posted by cincinnatikid513

nobody out performs long contracts they all decline

Exactly.

.859 OPS this year. Still just 26 years old.

Not a bust.

Is he worth his contract? No. Is he performing like his insane 2015 season? No.

But bust is the wrong word.

**jjgold** · 08-15-19, 10:36 AM

Phila no different with or without him

Judge has zero impact on Yanks winning or losing just another big name example

**TheMoneyShot** · 08-15-19, 03:31 PM

Dude is hilariously cocky.... with no production. lol

Haven't seen this type of cockiness with no production since the days of Bobby Higginson with Detroit

**Kermit** · 08-15-19, 03:45 PM

Bust compared to what he is being paid.

He needs to get his red contacts back.

**49er41580** · 08-15-19, 03:48 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

Phila no different with or without him

Judge has zero impact on Yanks winning or losing just another big name example

Judge haven’t got paid

**thomorino** · 08-15-19, 03:49 PM

He's not a bust, he's just a good player, not great, expectations were unrealistic

**spippen** · 08-15-19, 08:13 PM

0-2 2 strikeouts so far tonight. Not worth the money. Not even close.

**stevenash** · 08-15-19, 08:41 PM

Originally posted by cincinnatikid513

nobody out performs long contracts they all decline

Mussina did.
Signed in late 2000, pitched for the Yankees from 2001 to 2008
All eight seasons won double digits games. Won 15 or more games five time, twenty games once.
The consummate innings eater, had one bad season at 11-10, bounced back from that and one twenty in his swan song, leading the majors in games started (34) that year too.
Considering he pitched in the big stick division solid ERA's and WH/IP's
Except for that Angel debacle in 2002 and the Twins series pitched well in the playoffs, and he helped NYY reach the postseason every season except his final year 2008 when he won 20, Yanks did not make it that year.
Moose earned every dollar paid.

Year	Tm	W	L	W-L%	ERA	IP	BB	SO	WHIP	H9	BB9	SO9
2001	NYY	17	11	0.607	3.15	228.2	42	214	1.067	8	1.7	8.4
2002	NYY	18	10	0.643	4.05	215.2	48	182	1.187	8.7	2	7.6
2003	NYY	17	8	0.68	3.4	214.2	40	195	1.081	8	1.7	8.2
2004	NYY	12	9	0.571	4.59	164.2	40	132	1.324	9.7	2.2	7.2
2005	NYY	13	8	0.619	4.41	179.2	47	142	1.369	10	2.4	7.1
2006	NYY	15	7	0.682	3.51	197.1	35	172	1.11	8.4	1.6	7.8
2007	NYY	11	10	0.524	5.15	152	35	91	1.467	11.1	2.1	5.4
2008	NYY	20	9	0.69	3.37	200.1	31	150	1.223	9.6	1.4	6.7
NYY (8 yrs)		123	72	0.631	3.88	1553	318	1278	1.212	9.1	1.8	7.4

**spippen** · 08-15-19, 09:23 PM

Well Bryce was a big hit tonight with that grand slam. Dave Holland sucks but still what a great at bat.

**jjgold** · 08-15-19, 09:24 PM

He is hot

**clockwise1965** · 08-15-19, 09:26 PM

Too early to say. imo

**TheLock** · 08-15-19, 09:59 PM

Originally posted by lonegambler23

they should send him down to AAA and get his confidence back

I LOL’d

**TheLock** · 08-15-19, 10:01 PM

Originally posted by spippen

0-2 2 strikeouts so far tonight. Not worth the money. Not even close.

This post didn’t age well.

**TheLock** · 08-15-19, 10:11 PM

That was a VIOLENT grand slam. They just said on MLB that since Statcast started, no ball had ever been hit so hard and so high.