[MonkeyF0cker]

They get paid hourly at a lot of places too.

What do you think about Nick B getting the William Hill gig in Vegas? Always liked him. Guess the tout biz wasn't going so well. They reached out to Johnny A first but he's got it made at Wynn.

I don't know what to think. It's definitely a good fit for Will Hill though. He fits their (at least offshore) model pretty well. They are extremely timid. I just hope that doesn't carry over too much here. The consolidation of all of these books isn't bettor friendly in the first place though. Will be interesting to see if he deals his own numbers or if they're just going to clone Will Hill. If I were John, I wouldn't want the job either. He runs the show at Wynn. At Will Hill, he'd be a middle management puppet.

[Grits n' Gravy]

I don't know what to think. It's definitely a good fit for Will Hill though. He fits their (at least offshore) model pretty well. They are extremely timid. I just hope that doesn't carry over too much here. The consolidation of all of these books isn't bettor friendly in the first place though. Will be interesting to see if he deals his own numbers or if they're just going to clone Will Hill. If I were John, I wouldn't want the job either. He runs the show at Wynn. At Will Hill, he'd be a middle management puppet.

Yup. That's what I thought. If MGM or Caesars was to sell their books to Cantor, Hill or another group Vegas would be real bad for the player. I asked a friend who manages a book how they did 2h lines in hoops and he said they usually follow Pinny. John said they will likely give Nick a little wiggle room at first and see what happens.

[Avenger]

i keep hearing about how he makes a living playing slots...how is that possible? unless you win millions, 99% of slot players lose.

Exactly. fishhead plays bingo, fcuking BINGO all day.

I can't see how anyone can make money from slots unless you're chasing progressive slots, from casino to casino, all day. If you got insider info and know which slots are loose, you MIGHT break even, but you'd still have to be monitoring that sh*t. Soon you'll need partners, that means split the winnings, that means NOT +EV.

[Avenger]

Ok, all this e-dick slapping has gotten me curious... since I live in Vegas and I know my way around almost every casino and every SB, please tell me if Fishhead takes the job and EXACTLY where he'll be Assistant Manager.

The ONLY book that I can see hiring AM for over 6 figures is Cantors. But I would think it's more the people he brings in, not his ability to crunch numbers.

If someone PMs me the info, I'll scope it out and report back to SBR.

Who knows? Maybe Fishhead knows some high rollers who think they're good with the books. I know Cantors was dying for "sharp" MLB action earlier in the season.

but if he works with Cantors, he might as well sell his soul to the devil, imho. Cantors is creepy as fuuuk.

[Grits n' Gravy]

Cantor isn't paying that kind of money. The guys at Venetian aren't breaking 50 aside from former vp who Cantor absorbed.

FH used to hit those gem slots that were close to making a complete line. He'd wait for a guest who got sick of machine to get off it and plunk say $100 in and get the final gem and make a tidy profit. Those games are long gone. The vp prog teams virtually disappeared when progs got capped at a certain figure to limit house exposure and a lot of places booted the teams altogether or cut their comps to lower their perceived advantage. They can thank Bill Granoff aka Bob Dancer for that.

[jjgold]

Mathy- obviously I have a schedule. I put in anywhere from 6-16 hours a day depending on what project I am on. I enjoy my job right now. Love learning from those that have knowledge to share. Having done work on corporate compensation committee I have a decent idea of what each job pays and in race and sports unless you own the shop or have a ton of money to wager you aren't retiring anytime soon. No casino manager job pays more than 100k a year. Once you hit director and up the money makes the job worthwhile if you have an endgame in sight. I do and figure I'm 6 years away from being able to start my own business again. I actually respected fh when I started here. It takes a lot of effort to do the Vegas grind full time. A few of his stories didn't add up and I lost the respect I had for him. You have your view and I have my mine. I dig some of your creative insults but red suede suit...not happening. Riding a goat....nah. I don't drive here period. Too many Asians.

JJ- slots are a dead end for a career unless you can get a vp job. Not much growth potential for casino workers. Get an MBA. They are looking for numbers guys, not casino experience now. Like I said before, if you move to Vegas I would meet you and try and get you a job that fits you.

Good man

Gritter I would also be a good bouncer, not big or anything but very intimidating as you know in my vids if I am angry, I would love for you to put me in the Wynn and literally drag guys out of sportsbook and make a name for myself.

[Grits n' Gravy]

Good man

Gritter I would also be a good bouncer, not big or anything but very intimidating as you know in my vids if I am angry, I would love for you to put me in the Wynn and literally drag guys out of sportsbook and make a name for myself.

You'd make like $11 an hour and wear a purple sport coat doing casino security. You don't have look the clubs are looking for.

[jjgold]

ok Gritter I will think of something else

security room..cameras???

[RealSlimShady]

You'd make like $11 an hour and wear a purple sport coat doing casino security. You don't have look the clubs are looking for.

Are you implying he's too old, bald and bangedup looking to be a bouncer at XS or Tao?

[Grits n' Gravy]

Are you implying he's too old, bald and bangedup looking to be a bouncer at XS or Tao?

He's not what you would call front of the house presentable.

[RealSlimShady]

He's not what you would call front of the house presentable.

But I bet he'd love being duked by guys wanting to go into the club.....Goldie would love that part of the job.

[jjgold]

Gritter I wear a rug and wear a suit I am devastating

see my vids with outfits on

[kfranz31]

its easy money

[Grits n' Gravy]

Gritter I wear a rug and wear a suit I am devastating

see my vids with outfits on

jj, some kid would rip the rug off if slim or Bronxer don't do it first. I can see you making a great time share salesman.

[RealSlimShady]

jj, some kid would rip the rug off if slim or Bronxer don't do it first. I can see you making a great time share salesman.

[jjgold]

Hey Shady go fuk yourself

You still dating that 59 year old woman??

I bet she is hot

[billysink]

Ok, all this e-dick slapping has gotten me curious... since I live in Vegas and I know my way around almost every casino and every SB, please tell me if Fishhead takes the job and EXACTLY where he'll be Assistant Manager.

The ONLY book that I can see hiring AM for over 6 figures is Cantors. But I would think it's more the people he brings in, not his ability to crunch numbers.

If someone PMs me the info, I'll scope it out and report back to SBR.

Who knows? Maybe Fishhead knows some high rollers who think they're good with the books. I know Cantors was dying for "sharp" MLB action earlier in the season.

but if he works with Cantors, he might as well sell his soul to the devil, imho. Cantors is creepy as fuuuk.

Well that should be about it for this latest SBR fairly tale.

[Avenger]

The whole Cantors thing is because they take really large wagers. I mean, really large. Like they cater to people who make $10,000 a unit bet.

Anyone who works in a sportsbook knows it's hard to make $10,000 on a game.

If someone could bring in guys who bet like this (and lose their bankroll), I can see them making 6 figures. The "assistant manager" is just a title, what their real job is, bring in the big whales to lose their bankrolls.

then again, Grits would know more about this than me.

If anyone cares about my rant about Cantors, I'll post it later. But I'm sticking by my story that they're as creepy as fuuuk. Too many weird stuff goes on that Sportsbook.

[Br0nxer]

He's not what you would call front of the house presentable.

Buried

[wantitall4moi]

Huh? Do you know what an assistant manager in a sportsbook does?

You don't need a degree to run over when you hear the word "Key!" and approve/deny a wager, to call the hub and tell them that they graded a game wrong, or to bring money to/from the cage.

Probably more than 80% of the time the managers are former writers in the first place.

It's not an important job.

You need a degree for just about ANY job these days unless it is part time or manual labor. So I would say the chances of them requiring a degree for even an assistant position is going to be pretty high. Especially considering how many actual qualified people there are around who have degrees in something that would compliment the position.

[MonkeyF0cker]

You need a degree for just about ANY job these days unless it is part time or manual labor. So I would say the chances of them requiring a degree for even an assistant position is going to be pretty high. Especially considering how many actual qualified people there are around who have degrees in something that would compliment the position.

You'd be wrong. How many universities offer degrees in assistant sportsbook management?

If you had any idea what an assistant sportsbook manager does, you'd know that you're wrong.

[jjgold]

Would be great to go to Vegas and Fishhead get us free drinks tickets at the book he works at

[King Mayan]

Gritter I would also be a good bouncer, not big or anything but very intimidating

[wantitall4moi]

You'd be wrong. How many universities offer degrees in assistant sportsbook management?

If you had any idea what an assistant sportsbook manager does, you'd know that you're wrong.

Any business degree, hell even some hospitality associate's degree would work. It wouldnt even have to be a 4 year degree. But they want some sort of education past high school I can tell you that. Like I said the days of old school guys with street smarts getting jobs around vegas or basically any land based casino are gone.

Obviously they dont give those types of degrees but they would more than likely want something associated or at least in the ball park. I am sure if there were some connections a person might get away with a liberal arts degree as long as it showed a post secondary education of some sort.

Not going to keep commenting on this because I dont want to keep bumping this nonsense up every day, but I know a lot of guys in the corporate world and they all want some sort of degree, even if theyre hiring for a temporary position. But a long as someone is going to qualify for benefits and any sort of health plan or even a 401K option are going to need a post graduate degree of some sort.

Like I said anything full time (even temoprary) will need one in most cases. Part time or seasonal not so much but if the person is looking to get their foot in the door and possibly go beyond part time or seasonal then they will eventually have to have one.

[MonkeyF0cker]

Any business degree, hell even some hospitality associate's degree would work. It wouldnt even have to be a 4 year degree. But they want some sort of education past high school I can tell you that. Like I said the days of old school guys with street smarts getting jobs around vegas or basically any land based casino are gone.

Obviously they dont give those types of degrees but they would more than likely want something associated or at least in the ball park. I am sure if there were some connections a person might get away with a liberal arts degree as long as it showed a post secondary education of some sort.

Not going to keep commenting on this because I dont want to keep bumping this nonsense up every day, but I know a lot of guys in the corporate world and they all want some sort of degree, even if theyre hiring for a temporary position. But a long as someone is going to qualify for benefits and any sort of health plan or even a 401K option are going to need a post graduate degree of some sort.

Like I said anything full time (even temoprary) will need one in most cases. Part time or seasonal not so much but if the person is looking to get their foot in the door and possibly go beyond part time or seasonal then they will eventually have to have one.

Sorry. You have no idea how Vegas works.

[onlooker]

Probably more than 80% of the time the managers are former writers in the first place.

Some aren't the brightest bulb in the box either.

[jjgold]

You can have a HS level education and run Caesars Book

If your good your good

I know mob guys than ran books in Vegas and had zero education or should I say book smartl

I can go to any LV book and pay guys off and run a book

[boondoggle]

this thread obviously needs bumped!

[jjgold]

His decision will be made I think by Sunday Night

Everyone waiting

[SlickFazzer]

I'm excited to see what he decides.

[jjgold]

I say NO

Hard to go back to work after 25 years

[jjgold]

Here was his answer as of 2:45PM EST

Declined job.....looking at houses in southern highlands this morning....$330,000 open house gem with pool....

[darkhat]

You need a degree for just about ANY job these days unless it is part time or manual labor. So I would say the chances of them requiring a degree for even an assistant position is going to be pretty high. Especially considering how many actual qualified people there are around who have degrees in something that would compliment the position.

Wrong a degree is meaningless in television. You can make 6 figures a year as long as you start as a production assistant and just move up and keep getting promoted. Even with a degree you start from the bottom. The only thing that matters is experience.

[Antibet]

Here was his answer as of 2:45PM EST

Declined job.....looking at houses in southern highlands this morning....$330,000 open house gem with pool....

Oh no!!! Declined.

$330K house with pool. Wow.

[jjgold]

I respect his decision

They had their guy but Fishhead finds it more lucrative in the streets of North Las Vegas (weak machines)