Why would Notre Dame need

t-wizzle · 11-05-18, 02:41 PM

ND has had a pretty easy schedule but you raise a fair point.

Darkside Magick · 11-05-18, 02:45 PM

The thing is the playoff is for the power 5 conferences..... If Notre dame lose and Michigan win out... Michigan getting a spot

LT Profits · 11-05-18, 02:45 PM

Notre Dame loses all Playoff hopes with one loss due to schedule. Yes, they beat Michigan but Big Ten would prevail over an Independent, even if it is the Irish.

daneblazer · 11-05-18, 02:50 PM

So if ND doesn’t get in, what incentive does any school have to schedule up? Notre Dame could have scheduled Ball State and be in the exact same spot of having to win out to make the playoffs.

Fans and the media can bitch about Alabama playing the citadel and Georgia playing Umass next week until they’re blue in the face, but they have zero reason not to.

firedawg · 11-05-18, 02:50 PM

Just put 4 sec teams in
Rest of conferences chumps

19th Hole · 11-05-18, 02:54 PM

2018 Resume S&P+ rankings through 10 weeks

Alabama	9-0	31.4	1	90.1%	57	12.3	1
Clemson	9-0	29.2	2	92.7%	88	4.5	2
Michigan	8-1	25.4	3	85.6%	23	2.5	3
Georgia	8-1	23.9	5	89.5%	50	-2.4	4
Oklahoma	8-1	25.0	4	91.5%	75	-3.9	5
Fresno State	8-1	20.0	7	96.6%	128	-6.7	6
LSU	7-2	11.6	22	77.5%	1	-7.1	7
Utah State	8-1	14.7	14	96.2%	126	-7.8	8
Central Florida	8-0	18.2	8	94.3%	107	-8.0	9
Ohio State	8-1	17.5	9	91.4%	73	-9.1	10
Penn State	6-3	15.3	12	84.2%	11	-9.1	11
Mississippi State	6-3	16.1	11	89.1%	44	-9.3	12
West Virginia	7-1	13.2	18	92.7%	89	-10.0	13
Missouri	5-4	12.4	20	80.2%	3	-10.3	14
Iowa	6-3	10.0	29	88.1%	38	-10.7	15
Utah	6-3	12.6	19	88.5%	40	-11.7	16
Purdue	5-4	10.5	25	86.8%	28	-11.8	17
Notre Dame	9-0	20.0	6	89.8%	53	-12.1	18
Texas A&M	5-4	11.0	24	78.4%	2	-12.4	19
Auburn	6-3	13.5	15	86.8%	29	-12.4	20

jtoler · 11-05-18, 02:56 PM

notre dame sos isnt all that bad, its better than clemson's now and will be a lot better by season's end in case clemson loses a game. ohio state has the worst sos as we speak today

jjgold · 11-05-18, 02:57 PM

Notre Dame will help ratings tremendously they have to get in so I’m praying they don’t lose a game

firedawg · 11-05-18, 02:58 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

Notre Dame will help ratings tremendously they have to get in so I’m praying they don’t lose a game

Then lose by 30 round 1

BigdaddyQH · 11-05-18, 03:11 PM

If Notre Dame wins out, they are in. No discussion needed. If they lose a game to any of the three remaining teams, they do not deserve to get in. Syracuse will be 8-2, with their two losses coming on the road to Clemson and Pitt and their biggest win coming at home against N.C. State. They play the Irish in New York City.

The real battle is for #4. Right now, Michigan has the advantage, but they have to go to Columbus, a place where they are known to find ways to lose. If they lose, then Georgia, Oklahoma, and West Virginia have to win out or Ohio State gets in, unless they vote for a 12-1 Washington State, which is highly doubtful, though they are ranked ahead of Ohio State now. IMO, Alabama and Clemson are so far ahead of everyone else it really does not matter. At least there will be no expansion arguments this season.

firedawg · 11-05-18, 03:20 PM

Originally posted by BigdaddyQH

If Notre Dame wins out, they are in. No discussion needed. If they lose a game to any of the three remaining teams, they do not deserve to get in. Syracuse will be 8-2, with their two losses coming on the road to Clemson and Pitt and their biggest win coming at home against N.C. State. They play the Irish in New York City.

The real battle is for #4. Right now, Michigan has the advantage, but they have to go to Columbus, a place where they are known to find ways to lose. If they lose, then Georgia, Oklahoma, and West Virginia have to win out or Ohio State gets in, unless they vote for a 12-1 Washington State, which is highly doubtful, though they are ranked ahead of Ohio State now. IMO, Alabama and Clemson are so far ahead of everyone else it really does not matter. At least there will be no expansion arguments this season.

Agreed
Bama and Clemson on a different level

LT Profits · 11-05-18, 03:38 PM

Originally posted by BigdaddyQH

If Notre Dame wins out, they are in. No discussion needed. If they lose a game to any of the three remaining teams, they do not deserve to get in. Syracuse will be 8-2, with their two losses coming on the road to Clemson and Pitt and their biggest win coming at home against N.C. State. They play the Irish in New York City.

The real battle is for #4. Right now, Michigan has the advantage, but they have to go to Columbus, a place where they are known to find ways to lose. If they lose, then Georgia, Oklahoma, and West Virginia have to win out or Ohio State gets in, unless they vote for a 12-1 Washington State, which is highly doubtful, though they are ranked ahead of Ohio State now. IMO, Alabama and Clemson are so far ahead of everyone else it really does not matter. At least there will be no expansion arguments this season.

If Ohio State wins out, they are 4th team. They are in exact same position as Michigan. Notre Dame would have to lose a game to open door for Big 12 or Georgia.

firedawg · 11-05-18, 03:39 PM

Originally posted by LT Profits

If Ohio State wins out, they are 4th team. They are in exact same position as Michigan. Notre Dame would have to lose a game to open door for Big 12 or Georgia.

Ohio St is not getting in

LT Profits · 11-05-18, 03:44 PM

Originally posted by firedawg

Ohio St is not getting in

Of course they are if they win out. One-loss Big Ten champ trumps Big 12 and Georgia.

firedawg · 11-05-18, 03:45 PM

Originally posted by LT Profits

Of course they are if they win out. One-loss Big Ten champ trumps Big 12 and Georgia.

They lost to Purdue lmao
Nebraska had them on the ropes
They are finished

LT Profits · 11-05-18, 03:47 PM

Originally posted by firedawg

They lost to Purdue lmao
Nebraska had them on the ropes
They are finished

Doesn't matter IF THEY WIN OUT.

I keep stressing that and yet you don't want to listen.

firedawg · 11-05-18, 03:50 PM

Originally posted by LT Profits

Doesn't matter IF THEY WIN OUT.

I keep stressing that and yet you don't want to listen.

JFC if a ton of teams win out they are in
Not rocket science

jtoler · 11-05-18, 04:01 PM

if uga and ohio st. win out how do you keep uga out that would mean a win over bama in sec championship

firedawg · 11-05-18, 04:02 PM

Originally posted by jtoler

if uga and ohio st. win out how do you keep uga out that would mean a win over bama in sec championship

You don’t

LT Profits · 11-05-18, 04:03 PM

Originally posted by firedawg

JFC if a ton of teams win out they are in
Not rocket science

Not true, some have edge over others. Ohio State/Michigan winner is IN as one-loss Big Ten champ, Notre Dame is in if they win out. Others can win out but would have no chance unless Ohio State and Michigan both lose a game or Notre Dame loses. Alabama could lose a game and still get in, maybe even Clemson too. It is not that hard to figure out really as of now, but this is always subject to change.

Oh and another given is UCF has ZERO chance even if they win 100 games in a row.

LT Profits · 11-05-18, 04:06 PM

Originally posted by jtoler

if uga and ohio st. win out how do you keep uga out that would mean a win over bama in sec championship

True, but UGA won't beat Bama. If Tide loses a game, it will be unexpected regular season upset vs, team they overlooked, it would not be in SEC Championship Game having their total attention.

firedawg · 11-05-18, 04:06 PM

So ?
You think if UGA wins out they won’t get in?
Ok
If UGA and Ohio st win out they are both in

Zero chance the SEC Champ gets left out

firedawg · 11-05-18, 04:08 PM

Originally posted by LT Profits

True, but UGA won't beat Bama. If Tide loses a game, it will be unexpected regular season upset vs, team they overlooked, it would not be in SEC Championship Game having their total attention.

Wrong
The only team left with any chance at all is UGA
That being said Bama wins out

LT Profits · 11-05-18, 04:09 PM

Originally posted by LT Profits

True, but UGA won't beat Bama. If Tide loses a game, it will be unexpected regular season upset vs, team they overlooked, it would not be in SEC Championship Game having their total attention.

To put this another way, only team that can beat Alabama is Alabama, they would be double-digit favorite over any other team in the country. Clemson is the consensus #2 team, and Bama would even be about -10.5 in that game, their smallest spread vs. any team.

LT Profits · 11-05-18, 04:12 PM

Originally posted by firedawg

Wrong
The only team left with any chance at all is UGA
That being said Bama wins out

I don't think ANY team has a chance if Bama cares, which is why I said it would be a regular season upset with Tide not caring. They would be fully motivated vs. Georgia.

And since we agree Bama wins out, that would also assure Ohio State is in if they win out.

Darkside Magick · 11-05-18, 04:12 PM

Cliff notes

Sec champ

Acc champ

Big10 champ

Notre Dame

if undefeated

If Notre dame not undefeated

Big 12 champ

LT Profits · 11-05-18, 04:13 PM

Originally posted by firedawg

So ?
You think if UGA wins out they won’t get in?
Ok
If UGA and Ohio st win out they are both in

Zero chance the SEC Champ gets left out

Yes I agree with this. It is just that I don't think GA has much of a chance.

LT Profits · 11-05-18, 04:17 PM

Originally posted by Darkside Magick

Cliff notes

Sec champ

Acc champ

Big10 champ

Notre Dame

if undefeated

If Notre dame not undefeated

Big 12 champ

If by some miracle Georgia beats Alabama, Tide would knock out either Big Ten or Notre Dame. All my comments earlier were based on Bama winning out though, which is what I expect.

jtoler · 11-05-18, 04:21 PM

Originally posted by Darkside Magick

Cliff notes

Sec champ

Acc champ

Big10 champ

Notre Dame

if undefeated

If Notre dame not undefeated

Big 12 champ

almost. if clemson loses in acc championship game whoever would have beaten them isnt getting in. if wv loses to oklahoma last game of season but beats them in championship game, they arnt getting in.

firedawg · 11-05-18, 04:23 PM

Honestly
The chances of Bama losing are greater than Clemson’s imo

Darkside Magick · 11-05-18, 04:28 PM

Originally posted by jtoler

almost. if clemson loses in acc championship game whoever would have beaten them isnt getting in. if wv loses to oklahoma last game of season but beats them in championship game, they arnt getting in.

Is Clemson really losing.... The more plausible event is Michigan/Ohio State winner losing in big ten champ game.... Then the big 12 come into play or if Notre dame lose

Wrongside · 11-05-18, 04:56 PM

Seriously, do you guys not remember just a year ago? Ohio State were the Big10 champs and lost out to an Alabama team with a dog ish résumé.

They, then, were stoked in their “underdog” role against Clemson that Clemson wanted no part of. Bama wanted revenge. Just too lopsided from an emotional standpoint #unfair.

SEC had a very down year last year but have a few more better teams this year and this year’s Bama team is obviously ridiculously good. Maybe fate will even things out and they dont win it, but I wouldn’t hold my breath.

Prior to The Playoff, Bama played one tough team last year and lost

LT Profits · 11-05-18, 05:09 PM

Originally posted by Wrongside

Seriously, do you guys not remember just a year ago? Ohio State were the Big10 champs and lost out to an Alabama team with a dog ish résumé.

They, then, were stoked in their “underdog” role against Clemson that Clemson wanted no part of. Bama wanted revenge. Just too lopsided from an emotional standpoint #unfair.

SEC had a very down year last year but have a few more better teams this year and this year’s Bama team is obviously ridiculously good. Maybe fate will even things out and they dont win it, but I wouldn’t hold my breath.

Prior to The Playoff, Bama played one tough team last year and lost

Unlike last year, Alabama going undefeated helps Ohio State's chances this year. Last year, Alabama losing a game cost Ohio State its chance to get in.

reigle9 · 11-05-18, 05:14 PM

psu beat osu hth last year AND won the big 10 title, osu got in over them

2 years ago, washington had an ooc schedule of portland state, rutgers, and someone else uselesss and got in over psu

don't even try to make sense of who gets in