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  • NFLMAN
    Restricted User
    • 06-10-09
    • 58

    #1
    Algorithms
    Years ago, Frank Rosenthal used to post football and basketball picks on his website. He died last year and in his later years he didn't give out many winners. But I learned from keeping notes on his picks over the years that he always knew when he had a winner. In fact, when he posted picks without a write-up, they weren't worth betting on. But when he got into explaining why he liked a certain game, the results were phenomenal. For instance: One thing that I can say about the way he was doing it was about the pointspread itself that he was looking at. Whether the number was a 6 or a 7 made a difference to him and I noticed that it more than just finding value. He also mentioned when a certain positional player was out and from keeping track of everything, I tried to figure it out.

    I have been hooked ever since on figuring out how he was doing that and I am happy to say that I have found that it could be about building algorithms from simple trends.

    You have to keep it simple, like when a team is playing without it's most productive running back and the entire league has been losing when it was in the same situation, or a when a string of 7-point underdogs all won their game, it is a simple trend. When you first start hearing rumors that the coach is going to be fired, or something in particular that a coach said and it suggest the team will win. The entire league follows patterns like that, and the algorithm is about putting a number of simple trends together on one game to ascertain who is going to win that game. Not betting on every trend because they carry no weight unless they associate with others and conglomerate onto one play and that's when you have the algorithm.
  • JRS21386
    Restricted User
    • 04-13-08
    • 2213

    #2
    And I am one of those that Doesn't Understand
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    • NFLMAN
      Restricted User
      • 06-10-09
      • 58

      #3
      You're not alone

      I'll give an example: I noticed a couple of years back in the NFL games there was a trend on rookie head coaches as 7 point favorites.

      I thought nothing of it after 7 straight occurrences and I did not bet any of those games. However, they weren't just all winning against the spread. They were winning by huge margins. and they were going over the point total too.

      Then last year the Atlanta Falcons were playing at home against the KC Chiefs and the Falcons head coach was in his first year as head coach last year. The pointspread on that game rose to Atlanta -7

      mostly all of us were able to get Atlanta -6.5

      ...but what really captured me then was the injury report on the Chiefs for that game. Herm Edwards said that he was going to give his rookies more playing time in that game. Both of the starting cornerbacks in that game for the Chiefs were rookies, and this would be the first game for both of them.

      I knew that in situations where the injury report has a teams two starting cornerbacks listed as out, that teams in that situation were going OVER THE TOTAL.

      That was an easy one, does anyone else remember that match-up?
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      • Flying Dutchman
        SBR MVP
        • 05-17-09
        • 2467

        #4
        Not sure we're talking algorithms here, sounds more like trends, or worse opinions.

        anyway, this players talk.

        And these fvks wouldn't know an algorithm if if came up 'n bit 'em on the ass.

        The Tank is the place where all the pointy heads hang out.

        this is the place where posters kick the crap outta each other.

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        • dwaechte
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 08-27-07
          • 5481

          #5
          I don't think that word means what you think it means.
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          • Flying Dutchman
            SBR MVP
            • 05-17-09
            • 2467

            #6
            Originally posted by dwaechte
            I don't think that word means what you think it means.
            which word? fvks?

            yep, dumb shits is more like it.

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