Systems and MAth and all that crap

MonkeyF0cker · 07-05-09, 01:04 AM

Originally posted by ATX

I've been where you are.

I ditched a lot of it.

I found a better way.

thanks for the replies. I've been thinking and looking at stuff for the last couple days or whatever they were.

It's one thing to bet dimes at SIA.

also, when a system or model, whatever you want to call it is based on the market, itself...

bad idea. every market known to man has at one time failed, caused people depending on it to fail.

I've been there with the 63 games in a day.

this will not end well for you.

I don't play at SIA. I'd be gone in a week. How is a model "based on the market?" You are really clueless.

I bet everything that has perceived edge. If my games actually do have edge more often than not, then it can do nothing but end well for me. Period.

MonkeyF0cker · 07-05-09, 01:05 AM

Originally posted by ATX

no one is betting Kelly at over 5K a game, and the way you come across you act like you are already there when it's apparent you are not.

Wanna bet?

ATX · 07-05-09, 01:09 AM

Originally posted by MonkeyF0cker

Umm. I live in Vegas and personally know several runners for Billy Walters. He isn't gone, genius.

no shit.

are you inferring that he wins every year?

lakerboy · 07-05-09, 01:11 AM

Originally posted by ATX

no shit.

are you inferring that he wins every year?

atx did you kow tht monkeyfocker is scared to take a challenge with a canadian guy named nicky santoro cause he knows he will lose

MonkeyF0cker · 07-05-09, 01:11 AM

Originally posted by ATX

no shit.

are you inferring that he wins every year?

Huh? You think he'd still be doing it if he wasn't profiting? Are you really that stupid?

lakerboy · 07-05-09, 01:12 AM

Originally posted by MonkeyF0cker

Huh? You think he'd still be doing it if he wasn't profiting? Are you really that stupid?

why is stupidity so important to you i mean look at your avatar and name

MonkeyF0cker · 07-05-09, 01:12 AM

Originally posted by lakerboy

atx did you kow tht monkeyfocker is scared to take a challenge with a canadian guy named nicky santoro cause he knows he will lose

I don't play kids games, son. Now go away.

ATX · 07-05-09, 01:13 AM

Originally posted by MonkeyF0cker

I don't play at SIA. I'd be gone in a week. How is a model "based on the market?" You are really clueless.

I bet everything that has perceived edge. If my games actually do have edge more often than not, then it can do nothing but end well for me. Period.

http://monkeyf0cker.mysbrforum.com/spreadsheet/

same difference.

lemme guess...you play so much BJ they let you circumnavigate the sportsbetting limits.

MonkeyF0cker · 07-05-09, 01:14 AM

Originally posted by ATX

http://monkeyf0cker.mysbrforum.com/spreadsheet/

same difference.

lemme guess...you play so much BJ they let you circumnavigate the sportsbetting limits.

There is more than one sportsbook in the world, genius.

lakerboy · 07-05-09, 01:15 AM

Originally posted by MonkeyF0cker

I don't play kids games, son. Now go away.

yes sir monkeyfocker i hear you are a legend- i am going to be in vegas for one month in november is there any chance we can meet and you can help me im serious

MonkeyF0cker · 07-05-09, 01:16 AM

Originally posted by lakerboy

yes sir monkeyfocker i hear you are a legend- i am going to be in vegas for one month in november is there any chance we can meet and you can help me im serious

You're beyond help.

lakerboy · 07-05-09, 01:17 AM

Originally posted by MonkeyF0cker

You're beyond help.

sorry to bother you sir monkey

ATX · 07-05-09, 01:17 AM

Originally posted by lakerboy

yes sir monkeyfocker i hear you are a legend- i am going to be in vegas for one month in november is there any chance we can meet and you can help me im serious

he does know where to get good drugs in Vegas...

imagine that.

lakerboy · 07-05-09, 01:18 AM

Originally posted by ATX

he does know where to get good drugs in Vegas...

imagine that.

nah not true

MonkeyF0cker · 07-05-09, 01:19 AM

Originally posted by ATX

he does know where to get good drugs in Vegas...

imagine that.

If you can't win the argument, attack the opposition.

ATX · 07-05-09, 01:21 AM

Originally posted by MonkeyF0cker

If you can't win the argument, attack the opposition.

it's your only strategy I agree with...

MonkeyF0cker · 07-05-09, 01:27 AM

Originally posted by ATX

it's your only strategy I agree with...

Perhaps you clowns could argue the merits of something you actually had a hint of a clue about, but you have no comprehension of any of the most basic fundamentals of statistics. I'm done trying to convince morons such as yourself. It's a waste of time and energy. It's like arguing with a two year old about quantum physics. It's simply way over your head. Enjoy your ignorance.

lakerboy · 07-05-09, 01:31 AM

Originally posted by MonkeyF0cker

Perhaps you clowns could argue the merits of something you actually had a hint of a clue about, but you have no comprehension of any of the most basic fundamentals of statistics. I'm done trying to convince morons such as yourself. It's a waste of time and energy. It's like arguing with a two year old about quantum physics. It's simply way over your head. Enjoy your ignorance.

monkeyfocker is a legend but this is the same guy who is scared of Nicky Santoro. I would bet my life Santoro would whip his ass into submisson and he would end up living in a cardboard box

MonkeyF0cker · 07-05-09, 01:36 AM

Originally posted by lakerboy

monkeyfocker is a legend but this is the same guy who is scared of Nicky Santoro. I would bet my life Santoro would whip his ass into submisson and he would end up living in a cardboard box

Contests are for children like you, lakerboy. I'm not scared of a steam chaser. If you actually bet your life on it, I might reconsider though.

lakerboy · 07-05-09, 01:39 AM

Originally posted by MonkeyF0cker

Contests are for children like you, lakerboy. I'm not scared of a steam chaser. If you actually bet your life on it, I might reconsider though.

your on i would take santoro over you any day i will live a longer life thank you monkey

ATX · 07-05-09, 01:46 AM

Originally posted by MonkeyF0cker

I don't play at SIA. I'd be gone in a week. How is a model "based on the market?" You are really clueless.

I bet everything that has perceived edge. If my games actually do have edge more often than not, then it can do nothing but end well for me. Period.

so you are saying you make over 15k a week.

dude, if you were, you would FIND A WAY TO KEEP PLAYING THERE!!!!!!!

ATX · 07-05-09, 01:47 AM

^^ you just got pwned.

lakerboy · 07-05-09, 01:52 AM

see monkey left nicky would whip him so i would i

ATX · 07-05-09, 01:54 AM

that statement of his about SIA summed it up...

...in theory...

BW says "Kelly? oh, she's the nice blonde that stops by and waters the plants, straightens things up..."

MonkeyF0cker · 07-05-09, 02:01 AM

Originally posted by ATX

so you are saying you make over 15k a week.

dude, if you were, you would FIND A WAY TO KEEP PLAYING THERE!!!!!!!

Wow. You're a moron. They limit players within a week ALL THE TIME!!! Read every dispute about SIA (D+) and maybe you'll figure out that people with multiple accounts get their funds confiscated all the time, genius.

Get a fukkin clue. Please.

ATX · 07-05-09, 02:10 AM

Originally posted by MonkeyF0cker

Wow. You're a moron. They limit players within a week ALL THE TIME!!! Read every dispute about SIA (D+) and maybe you'll figure out that people with multiple accounts get their funds confiscated all the time, genius.

Get a fukkin clue. Please.

I might know more about SIA than SIA does.

"friends" are usually cut between 12K and 17K.

D+?

LMAO! your lips are still stained from the kool aid.

dwaechte · 07-05-09, 02:14 AM

Ufh.

Seriously, this is ****ing embarrasing ATX. I am by no means a sharp, but i can tell you that youre ****ing retarded and are losing this fight. jesus ****ing christ.

MonkeyF0cker · 07-05-09, 02:19 AM

Originally posted by ATX

I might know more about SIA than SIA does.

"friends" are usually cut between 12K and 17K.

D+?

LMAO! your lips are still stained from the kool aid.

You're not worth my time.

ATX · 07-05-09, 02:25 AM

Originally posted by dwaechte

Ufh.

Seriously, this is ****ing embarrasing ATX. I am by no means a sharp, but i can tell you that youre ****ing retarded and are losing this fight. jesus ****ing christ.

who's fighting?

the guys with the market-based bots don't have a big enough BR yet.

I have a list of things that will probably happen, happens to most with their strategy, but why tip them off???

I guarantee you one thing...

they didn't live through the fiascos with BetPanama, Aces Gold, Camelot and so forth.

it's like trying to "prove" to someone that correlated parlays are -EV

in theory they are great, there was a show on MTV called the "Real World"...

MonkeyF0cker · 07-05-09, 02:29 AM

Umm. We weren't ever talking about "market-based bots," genius.

ATX · 07-05-09, 02:34 AM

Originally posted by MonkeyF0cker

Umm. We weren't ever talking about "market-based bots," genius.

that is what you are doing.

outside of arguing semantics.

donjuan · 07-05-09, 02:35 AM

This thread is like watching a train wreck. Correlated parlays are -ev? Well obv if they aren't correlated enough. But if you know what you're doing, they're quite nice. Not that this clown ATX would have a clue about advantage gambling, though.

ATX · 07-05-09, 02:41 AM

Originally posted by donjuan

This thread is like watching a train wreck. Correlated parlays are -ev? Well obv if they aren't correlated enough. But if you know what you're doing, they're quite nice. Not that this clown ATX would have a clue about advantage gambling, though.

they are a great way towards getting limited, booted, getting stiffed.

MonkeyF0cker · 07-05-09, 02:41 AM

Originally posted by ATX

that is what you are doing.

outside of arguing semantics.

No. What we're doing is called statistical arbitrage.

I do run a bot on Matchbook, but that's completely different.

ATX · 07-05-09, 02:41 AM

^^ pretty much takes away any advantage with them, eh?