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  • KVB
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 05-29-14
    • 74817

    #36
    I see, piler you were live, can be different.

    Are they going to finish this game today?

    I have cancelled bets now.
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    • LT Profits
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 10-27-06
      • 90963

      #37
      Live betting rules can differ from book to book so read your rules.

      Pregame wagers are cut and dry, game was graded as 1-1 final and since it went 9 innings, totals and run lines count.
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      • KVB
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 05-29-14
        • 74817

        #38
        Originally posted by LT Profits
        Live betting rules can differ from book to book so read your rules.

        Pregame wagers are cut and dry, game was graded as 1-1 final and since it went 9 innings, totals and run lines count.
        Yeah, I have some Overs that lost, I think that's correct.
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        • LT Profits
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 10-27-06
          • 90963

          #39
          Originally posted by KVB
          Yeah, I have some Overs that lost, I think that's correct.
          Nothing to "think" about, rule is quite clear.

          During regular season, if game is suspended, score at end of last completed inning is used for official grading, UNLESS the home team either tied or took the lead in current inning, in which case current score at time of suspension is used.

          Secondly, totals and run lines have action as soon as 9 innings are completed.
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          • KVB
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 05-29-14
            • 74817

            #40
            Originally posted by LT Profits
            Nothing to "think" about, rule is quite clear.

            During regular season, if game is suspended, score at end of last completed inning is used for official grading, UNLESS the home team either tied or took the lead in current inning, in which case current score at time of suspension is used.

            Secondly, totals and run lines have action as soon as 9 innings are completed.
            Right, I meant I think it's correct because I had both live and regular bets and action in many places here, it can get confusing everything that is placed, I am not alone and bets are placed all over the place. I was getting different reports, even heard it didn't get through all 9 innings, but all is graded a loss. I was saying I think the lost Overs I see are the correct ones of all I've heard. Some bets being held were live, I didn't realize it.

            I just pressed in this thread because I was on the move and on the mobile.

            Thanks for chiming in, it helped clear up what I should expect to see by the end of the day.

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            • LT Profits
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 10-27-06
              • 90963

              #41
              Originally posted by KVB
              Right, I meant I think it's correct because I had both live and regular bets and action in many places here, it can get confusing everything that is placed, I am not alone and bets are placed all over the place. I was getting different reports, even heard it didn't get through all 9 innings, but all is graded a loss. I was saying I think the lost Overs I see are the correct ones of all I've heard. Some bets being held were live, I didn't realize it.

              I just pressed in this thread because I was on the move and on the mobile.

              Thanks for chiming in, it helped clear up what I should expect to see by the end of the day.

              Yeah, live wagering is a real headache with differing rules. I wish those were more uniform.
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              • Regul8er
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 11-06-07
                • 10666

                #42
                I remember when I first really started betting about 11 or 12 years ago, I had a game at Fenway Park....can't remember the opponent.

                But I had Boston and the Over, both straight plays. The game was like 10-4 in the 6th, when the rain rolled in. My over got cancelled, but my Boston loss got graded. I was so mad, lol
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                • Optional
                  Administrator
                  • 06-10-10
                  • 61697

                  #43
                  Originally posted by ans61201
                  Do any books call action on a game for over unders though? Thought this was standard that must complete entire game for this to hit or overs at a huge disadvantage. Could be wrong because I don’t bet soccer often but, thought this rule didn’t apply to O/U
                  Sorry slow response mate.

                  I lose a complete day flying back from there.


                  Bet365 will grade overs/unders that have already hit as winners/losers even if a match is suspended, as one example.

                  But most books just cancel everything if the match is not completed.


                  Good to hear Justbet looked after you btw
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                  • LT Profits
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 10-27-06
                    • 90963

                    #44
                    Originally posted by Optional
                    Sorry slow response mate.

                    I lose a complete day flying back from there.


                    Bet365 will grade overs/unders that have already hit as winners/losers even if a match is suspended, as one example.

                    But most books just cancel everything if the match is not completed.


                    Good to hear Justbet looked after you btw
                    Bet365 does not accept USA customers though. Just about all USA-facing books use the Vegas standard, which is totals and run lines require 9 innings even if game has already gone Over.
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                    • Optional
                      Administrator
                      • 06-10-10
                      • 61697

                      #45
                      Originally posted by LT Profits

                      Bet365 does not accept USA customers though. Just about all USA-facing books use the Vegas standard, which is totals and run lines require 9 innings even if game has already gone Over.
                      I know the thread veered off into baseball, but he was specifically asking about soccer totals in the question I was answering.

                      Plus I'd never contradict you on baseball rules. You're the first person I'd come to for advice on those
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                      • cincinnatikid513
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 11-23-17
                        • 45360

                        #46
                        Originally posted by Optional
                        Sorry slow response mate.

                        I lose a complete day flying back from there.


                        Bet365 will grade overs/unders that have already hit as winners/losers even if a match is suspended, as one example.

                        But most books just cancel everything if the match is not completed.


                        Good to hear Justbet looked after you btw
                        how do u pay out on unders early
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                        • Optional
                          Administrator
                          • 06-10-10
                          • 61697

                          #47
                          Originally posted by cincinnatikid513

                          how do u pay out on unders early
                          By grading them a loss.

                          (but I do know what you meant ;-)
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                          • cincinnatikid513
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 11-23-17
                            • 45360

                            #48
                            Originally posted by Optional
                            By grading them a loss.
                            i have heard about bet365 paying out on soccer wagers if ur team gets up by 2 goals , which seems crazy because every day of the week almost some team is blowing a 2 goal lead
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                            • Optional
                              Administrator
                              • 06-10-10
                              • 61697

                              #49
                              Originally posted by cincinnatikid513

                              i have heard about bet365 paying out on soccer wagers if ur team gets up by 2 goals , which seems crazy because every day of the week almost some team is blowing a 2 goal lead
                              Those UK head office books have loads of deals like that. Your team gets a 10 point lead at any stage in football and you get paid. You first scorer bet scores second and money back, +100 odds for the fave in one match per weekend. Loads of crazy sounding offers. But it gets paid for through big time "player management". You will get it too with legal betting, but reality is it sucks. If you are a net winner usually, you will wish legal books operated more "fairly" like the offshores instead of being showered with crazy bonus offers
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                              • Auto Donk
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 09-03-13
                                • 43558

                                #50
                                Originally posted by cincinnatikid513
                                animals
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                                • Thrilla
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 03-10-15
                                  • 13809

                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by Auto Donk
                                  animals
                                  - Colby Covington
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                                  • Thrilla
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 03-10-15
                                    • 13809

                                    #52
                                    Most disliked octagon interview on YouTube

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                                    • Optional
                                      Administrator
                                      • 06-10-10
                                      • 61697

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by Thrilla

                                      - Colby Covington
                                      Originally posted by Thrilla
                                      Most disliked octagon interview on YouTube
                                      You'd know you complete POS.

                                      Being the most disliked poster on SBR yourself https://www.sportsbookreview.com/for...l#post28014727
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                                      • 19th Hole
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 03-22-09
                                        • 18954

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by cincinnatikid513
                                        i never understood why soccer doesn't have a shortened period for wagering like all the other sports baseball 5 innings basketball nba 43 mins football 55 mins, but soccer for most books is 90 mins of play happens in south america games more than u think riots or power outages 80 mins or 85 mins seems plenty fair where after that time wagers stand
                                        5 DIMES has 1H wagers available. (See below)
                                        If 5 DIMES has iH lines it should be readily available
                                        at most books.
                                        If you are not in the USA you should have numerous
                                        outs for 1H wagers.

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                                        Example:
                                        5 DIMES
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                                        • cincinnatikid513
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 11-23-17
                                          • 45360

                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by 19th Hole
                                          5 DIMES has 1H wagers available. (See below)
                                          If 5 DIMES has iH lines it should be readily available
                                          at most books.
                                          If you are not in the USA you should have numerous
                                          outs for 1H wagers.

                                          ~~~
                                          Example:
                                          5 DIMES

                                          i meant like for grading purposes like a soccer game must go 75 mins or 80 or 85 and its official most places are 90 mins most sports have a official time shorter than full game for wagers to stand
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                                          • 19th Hole
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 03-22-09
                                            • 18954

                                            #56
                                            As an aside...
                                            A Canadian friend that I cape with told me that
                                            BET365 pays out when an MLB team has a 4 run lead.

                                            This came up when we had the same team and he was graded
                                            as a WIN and of I was graded as a LOSS.
                                            This happened more than a handful of times.

                                            Another example of the disadvantage of using US facing books.


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                                            • cincinnatikid513
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 11-23-17
                                              • 45360

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by 19th Hole
                                              As an aside...
                                              A Canadian friend that I cape with told me that
                                              BET365 pays out when an MLB team has a 4 run lead.

                                              This came up when we had the same team and he was graded
                                              as a WIN and of I was graded as a LOSS.
                                              This happened more than a handful of times.

                                              Another example of the disadvantage of using US facing books.


                                              .
                                              yes we are def limited here in the usa on betting options and especially live betting markets
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                                              • Thrilla
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 03-10-15
                                                • 13809

                                                #58
                                                @Optional

                                                Thought we were cool. Can't believe how stupid and unprofessional you are now tbh. What happend? Are you on a new record losing streak? You taking it out on me?

                                                Disliked by who? Not everyone is as stupid.
                                                I am not surprised Laker, jts and booya misinterpreted that question.

                                                4 posters try to give a normal answer then lakerbastard got the ball rolling and uses situation to elevate himself and smear my name.

                                                They are biased. But I didn't expect it from you especially after I further explained it in that thread which never should have been the case. But I had to with couple dumb haters around trying to give me a bad name.

                                                Now I still don't know if BD has health insurance. Incase you are unaware he is not sick in Australia he is sick in America. Try to figure out what the difference is.
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                                                • Optional
                                                  Administrator
                                                  • 06-10-10
                                                  • 61697

                                                  #59
                                                  ^^^ You chose to inject your opinion multiple places. That was not missed. Accept the consequences.

                                                  And we are definitely not "cool" anymore.
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                                                  • Thrilla
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 03-10-15
                                                    • 13809

                                                    #60
                                                    ^^^ You edited your original post. Well guess what too late I read it. Got distracted writing this long response. You are wasting my energy here. Just know when anyone interferes we will ask technicians to duplicate the original.
                                                    ...................

                                                    I tried explaining nicely and detailed but you continue to be either stupid or you are a triggerd and biased rightwing Trump nutjob.

                                                    I will not allow this.

                                                    So basically me asking whether BD has health insurance or not...me being worried about it because I care about a guy who I never met means in your low IQ mind that "he doesn't deserve donations"? Is that it? WOW I thought you looked like a nice guy on those bash photos. Guess there is nothing but air inside your head.

                                                    What multiple places? Please provide evidence. Stop making shit up.

                                                    And no way 4 people responding to my question means what you claim...are you fukking kidding me? If anything those replies helped motivate people donate more. Besides look at the time stamps. I wasn't there to even reply properly. So yeah 4 people gave proper replies. Good for them.4 non-biased posters. After that a couple hating snakes desided to use my question to try and give me a bad name.

                                                    You are trying smear bad shit on my name. That's probably what you snakes discussed and planned in your private messages.

                                                    Wtf you think Just because you went to the bash you are the owner now of sbr? You think those people who you briefly met are your best friends now?

                                                    As far as Im concerned BD deserves donations even if he was the richest person in the world. But clearly your ignorant Australian fat ass never knew people who lost their lifes for not having acces to health care. You don't know shit about me nor about the issue called Social health care in America.

                                                    Lets hypothetically asume I said BD doesn't deserves donations wtf does it matter? who the hell are you and your so called new friends to overprotect BD? When he recovers and returns I am going to warn him to be careful about you and those others. It doesn't make sense you are so overprotected of him without a clear reason. You can't be this stupid so maybe you want to get close to him and exploit him? (See I can be stupid and smear shit about you too)

                                                    I swear to god delete all your smear campaign posts or I am contacting sbr headquarters now. You are unprofessional and frankly stupid to be a mod. You should be stripped of your mod status asap. Not fit to be mod. IQ level too low. Too much anger inside from being a loser in gambling.
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                                                    • Optional
                                                      Administrator
                                                      • 06-10-10
                                                      • 61697

                                                      #61
                                                      You didn't deserve any further explanation is why I edited it out. You are below that. But I am glad you read it.

                                                      As for whatever you ranted above. TLDR and do not give a rats ass about your continued excuses.
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                                                      • Thrilla
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 03-10-15
                                                        • 13809

                                                        #62
                                                        Why do they not give a rats ass? Because you said so? You dumb Snake. Another judgement from you based on feelings.
                                                        Look at how much energy I put in explaining to you? Maybe I care in your case and don't in any other poster? Well now you are on the same list as a rudyruetigger.

                                                        You are biased and a moron. Your judgement of me is solely based on your feelings you get from the people you met at the bash. You have no facts.

                                                        We will see who deserves what. Just what are you after in Big Day? His money? His children? His wife? You pos snake.
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                                                        • Optional
                                                          Administrator
                                                          • 06-10-10
                                                          • 61697

                                                          #63
                                                          Yes I am thinking emotionally about it. And each time you come back trying to logically justify yourself from having to show any sensitivity to that, just makes it worse.

                                                          Snake?? Am I not being direct and truthful enough for you or something?? Nothing snakey about brutal honesty. I find your lack of empathy pitiful.
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                                                          • cincinnatikid513
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 11-23-17
                                                            • 45360

                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by Optional
                                                            Depends on the book.

                                                            Some call ACTION after 80 mins no matter what.

                                                            But most places its a void.





                                                            Fairly regular.

                                                            Crazy fans in Europe will try to make a match be abandoned when they are going to lose.

                                                            Betting syndicates known to try and do it in years past.


                                                            BTW, really really nice to meet you are your lovely wife KVB. You were nothing like I expected but in hindsight you were an exact fit for your persona on here. My nerdy friend
                                                            i can't believe this, we were talking about it last week seaweed got saved by fan riots and i got screwed over lost a nice win to start the week with the local, this must be a sign , has to be a sign , no doubt in my mind this is a sign i gotta take a break from sports with all that's been going on the whole bigday situation , gotta start living life more stop watching following so much sports betting on 2nd divison south american soccer games, gotta read some books got a pile i ordered haven't started , even take a break from sbr post count is embarrassing
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                                                            • 2daBank
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 01-26-09
                                                              • 88966

                                                              #65
                                                              Whatever side you were on loses. This only applies to seaweed, do not know official rules, just know what happens when he pretends to place a wager.
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                                                              • vampire assassin
                                                                SBR Sharp
                                                                • 03-09-18
                                                                • 296

                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by unde0087
                                                                Rule 2, which I have posted, is clear as day. There is no way around it unless they start making shit up.
                                                                If a game ends with the referee's whistle in the 88th minute, and there is no designation as abandoned or something weird, that game is not "shortened". It is a full time result. Full time result just means that the ref blew the whistle signifying the end of the game, and that the game was not abandoned or a portion postponed. If you look at livescore and the match isn't listed as abandoned or postponed, it's probably considered full time.
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