Plaza you might of hit them for lots of bad lines in the past whether you knew it or not
He said enough is enough
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reigle9
SBR Posting Legend
10-25-07
17879
#72
been some strong blair's in history
blair thomas, 3rd pick in the draft
that's all i got
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LVHerbie
SBR Hall of Famer
09-15-05
6344
#73
Originally posted by MadTiger
He claims there were half a dozen notes on his accounts about cancelled wagers.
He was on hexa-secret probation, I guess.
God is bad at math (a few years back he had to use his gotcha no bot rule (which pinnacle and betcris don't have...) to not pay someone who played a bad video poker pay table he bragged about creating) and is a liar (he said he refunded all the money owed to anyone who played the same game without a bot and several weeks later someone came forward that they had lost like 6k and never got his money back). The second player did eventually get his money back but had to lose his account because God doesn't like acknowledging he is human enough to make mistakes (despite having rules in place to screw over the players when 5dimes loses).
Anyhow, 5dimes is great as long as you don't win too much (they will eventually boot winners) and stay on God's good side...
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jtoler
BARRELED IN @ SBR!
12-17-13
30967
#74
Originally posted by Plaza23
"shot takers" is just an idiotic excuse for piece of shit books that have incompetent staffs putting out erroneus lines, to have their free "get out of jail free" card for any line they deem unfair- usually after the fact. Because I've had some basketball games lines where Tony would wait till the game was nearly over before saying whatever line I had bet was wrong earlier. It's a shit way to do business, and it won't work in the US. My position is they honor every single line they put out there. US regulated books will do that. Guarantee it. They'll probably make far fewer mistakes so it won't even matter than the amateur hour in Costa Rica.
I dont know how you think the bold will be true if a mistake is made
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2daBank
SBR Aristocracy
01-26-09
88966
#75
Originally posted by jjgold
Plaza you might of hit them for lots of bad lines in the past whether you knew it or not
He said enough is enough
Yea I’m sure he was totally unaware of all the bad lines he hit. Oh wait, I seem to remember him being very detailed into what live lines were during the nba playoffs!! So apparently he is all over the lines cept this one time (or the other 6 he got caught) where he “accidentally” took a team up 5-0 at +1.5 -120.. you know you fukkin wrong when banker agrees w scumbag books!!
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El Nino
SBR Posting Legend
05-03-12
18426
#76
Originally posted by Plaza23
No,the justification I am using is that 5d cancels every line they deem bad. So why are you punishing the players who bet it? You're not out any money because you cancelled the bet anyway. The only people pissed off are the players who think you should honor it.
"be happy he let you have your balance". Seriously? His dumbass is the one that cancelled it, and he ended up losing big on it. Because I can't have been the only person that bet that line. So if he had let it ride, then he'd have won and we'd have all lost that bet it. Again, jokes on him.
"shot takers" is just an idiotic excuse for piece of shit books that have incompetent staffs putting out erroneus lines, to have their free "get out of jail free" card for any line they deem unfair- usually after the fact. Because I've had some basketball games lines where Tony would wait till the game was nearly over before saying whatever line I had bet was wrong earlier. It's a shit way to do business, and it won't work in the US. My position is they honor every single line they put out there. US regulated books will do that. Guarantee it. They'll probably make far fewer mistakes so it won't even matter than the amateur hour in Costa Rica.
You clearly take no responsibility for your shot taking. You try to justify it in your head that you "never benefited from taking a shot." Mistakes are made hanging live lines. Tony doesn't want to have to rifle through every live bet every time a third world tico misclicked a line. He saw you have a history of this. That's your prerogative. It's Tony's prerogative to not take your action.
Betting with an illegal offshore entity requires trust on both sides. Tony made a discretionary call that every time a bad line is hung, you are going to bet it. Essentially, you are taking advantage of his employees' incompetence or mistakes. That's not betting, it's acting predatory.
U.S. Regulated books or Vegas would not deal with that either. You think if you are sitting in a Vegas book and a live line opens during an innings break (short time to get your bet in) and an obvious incorrect line is put out, they are just going to honor it? Did the casinos who had the faulty jackpots that were way over what any penny slot non progressive jackpot payout would be honor those jackpots??? No, they didn't. If a used car saleman's kid hung the decimal place in the wrong spot on a car ($1,999 instead of $19,999) do you think he's going to let you purchase that car for $2K? If you think this is how business is done, you are extremely wrong. You are trying to be a predator and view the books as your enemy. They aren't. You still have to act like a responsible consumer if you expect the book to operate as a responsible business.
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DiggityDaggityDo
SBR Aristocracy
11-30-08
81450
#77
Originally posted by reigle9
been some strong blair's in history
blair thomas, 3rd pick in the draft
that's all i got
Blair Witch
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jtoler
BARRELED IN @ SBR!
12-17-13
30967
#78
Originally posted by reigle9
been some strong blair's in history
blair thomas, 3rd pick in the draft
that's all i got
blair warner(in honor of diggity)
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fried cheese
SBR MVP
09-17-13
4461
#79
Originally posted by El Nino
U.S. Regulated books or Vegas would not deal with that either. You think if you are sitting in a Vegas book and a live line opens during an innings break (short time to get your bet in) and an obvious incorrect line is put out, they are just going to honor it?
im pretty sure nevada sportsbooks have to honor bad lines if they print the ticket. they might ban you but they still have to pay you.
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reigle9
SBR Posting Legend
10-25-07
17879
#80
blair underwood (in honor of the blacks)
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KVB
SBR Aristocracy
05-29-14
74817
#81
Originally posted by Plaza23
...Roderick
I am transferring you over, have a good one...
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jtoler
BARRELED IN @ SBR!
12-17-13
30967
#82
Originally posted by fried cheese
im pretty sure nevada sportsbooks have to honor bad lines if they print the ticket. they might ban you but they still have to pay you.
seems kinda weird, also I cant imagine u.s. regulated books having live in play formats like offshore, if bad line hung there I cant see them honoring it. Over the years Ive seen tons of bad lines at 5d especially live, I dont see that at other books really
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CWD
SBR Hall of Famer
01-22-12
7665
#83
Dedicated to DDD
Blair from facts of life
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CWD
SBR Hall of Famer
01-22-12
7665
#84
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goduke
SBR Posting Legend
02-17-10
11580
#85
What i dont get is....ok you clicked it fast as soon as it opened and maybe wanted to get the bet in before it closed, thats understandable but after you clicked it you must of seen "oh shit it says mariners +1.5". Why not just contact them at that point and explain what happened? Thats where your story just doesnt add up. You waited to see if something was going to happen instead of just immediately fixing the issue.
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LVHerbie
SBR Hall of Famer
09-15-05
6344
#86
Originally posted by SharpAngles
Yeah that was the supposed reason I was suspended and had to chat with the midget to get turned back on. I explained I had never refreshed more than 3 times in an hour and he repeated over and over they are not a free information service and he’s been watching me and escalated it until I basically told him to fukk off. Classic brush off of a player who’s taken withdrawals.
The jokes really on them since I’ve got a bad run since then and they would’ve gotten most of the money back.
Tony is alot closer to ISIS than God. Important to remember he is holding your money hostage and, as long as you can successfully minimize the smirk while giving the forced acknowledgement that his world view is correct and your's is incorrect, he probably won't behead you...
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2daBank
SBR Aristocracy
01-26-09
88966
#87
Originally posted by jtoler
seems kinda weird, also I cant imagine u.s. regulated books having live in play formats like offshore, if bad line hung there I cant see them honoring it. Over the years Ive seen tons of bad lines at 5d especially live, I dont see that at other books really
I remember 1 year they had something off with the plays in the hr derby. Don’t really recall what it was, I remember starting a thread about it, we ended up contacting them in live chat to make sure they weren’t bad lines for obvious reasons. Turned out they were happy with what they hung and basically there was a way to parlay the round 1 winners where you basically couldn’t lose money and had chance for a nice profit. Ended up paying out pretty good but didn’t go very big as even after contacting them before the fact i was still skeptical!! Lol.,
few times over the years I’ve gotten free plays at various books for pointing out a bad line, much better way to go than trying to bet into it imo. As I said tho I’m certainly not judging for taking a shot as god knows I’ve taken several over the years (even got me banned once here! Lol) I just don’t see point in crying bout it after the fact, when we know damn well we taking a risk when doing so. By all means do you, just don’t cry when you get caught!!
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fried cheese
SBR MVP
09-17-13
4461
#88
Originally posted by jtoler
seems kinda weird, also I cant imagine u.s. regulated books having live in play formats like offshore, if bad line hung there I cant see them honoring it. Over the years Ive seen tons of bad lines at 5d especially live, I dont see that at other books really
when you have regulations you cant just cancel bets. it would be pretty hard to have rules on what makes a bad line. what line would you compare it to to prove it was bad and how far different from that line makes it bad? what about legit line movement and injuries. what if one book offers 20-1 and another offers 30-1? which one is bad?
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JohnGalt2341
SBR Hall of Famer
12-31-09
9138
#89
I virtually never start guaranteed lock threads but a few years back I posted this:
Originally posted by JohnGalt2341
Which side do you like?
I didn't bet it... but I'm sure some people did. Would any of you have bet either of these?
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5mike5
SBR Aristocracy
09-21-11
52032
#90
If u cant tell an obviously bad line u shouldnt be gambling
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jtoler
BARRELED IN @ SBR!
12-17-13
30967
#91
Originally posted by 2daBank
I remember 1 year they had something off with the plays in the hr derby. Don’t really recall what it was, I remember starting a thread about it, we ended up contacting them in live chat to make sure they weren’t bad lines for obvious reasons. Turned out they were happy with what they hung and basically there was a way to parlay the round 1 winners where you basically couldn’t lose money and had chance for a nice profit. Ended up paying out pretty good but didn’t go very big as even after contacting them before the fact i was still skeptical!! Lol.,
few times over the years I’ve gotten free plays at various books for pointing out a bad line, much better way to go than trying to bet into it imo. As I said tho I’m certainly not judging for taking a shot as god knows I’ve taken several over the years (even got me banned once here! Lol) I just don’t see point in crying bout it after the fact, when we know damn well we taking a risk when doing so. By all means so you, just don’t cry when you get caught!!
funny you bring that up, I contacted them about a bad line in hr derby the year Cano won derby, I bet Cano and the kid won. I used to contact them all the time about bad lines got so sick of seeing them even wondered if they were testing me if they could actually hang a line up for you personally lol it was that bad at one point
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2daBank
SBR Aristocracy
01-26-09
88966
#92
Originally posted by fried cheese
when you have regulations you cant just cancel bets. it would be pretty hard to have rules on what makes a bad line. what line would you compare it to to prove it was bad and how far different from that line makes it bad? what about legit line movement and injuries. what if one book offers 20-1 and another offers 30-1? which one is bad?
Well In this case there really no debate or argument. A team up 5-0 in 5th will never be +1.5 -120!!
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jtoler
BARRELED IN @ SBR!
12-17-13
30967
#93
Originally posted by fried cheese
when you have regulations you cant just cancel bets. it would be pretty hard to have rules on what makes a bad line. what line would you compare it to to prove it was bad and how far different from that line makes it bad? what about legit line movement and injuries. what if one book offers 20-1 and another offers 30-1? which one is bad?
I guess I was specifically referring to live lines, 5d has used a few different live formats over the years Ive seen bad lines in them many times, I even bet on a team to win once and checked my pending bets and it said I bet the opposite team, Tony fixed it as others complained this happened to them also, dingy program error I spose.
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fried cheese
SBR MVP
09-17-13
4461
#94
Originally posted by 2daBank
Well In this case there really no debate or argument. A team up 5-0 in 5th will never be +1.5 -120!!
there can be scenarios where that is false. what if every pitcher got injured in the 5th inning for the team that is ahead?
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jjgold
SBR Aristocracy
07-20-05
388179
#95
Some guys have to watch their backs in this thread
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2daBank
SBR Aristocracy
01-26-09
88966
#96
Originally posted by fried cheese
there can be scenarios where that is false. what if every pitcher got injured in the 5th inning for the team that is ahead?
Lol. I mean I guess, like there a tornado and it wiped out the pen? lol. Let’s just be realistic in this case and call it what it was, op was taking a shot like he has been documented doing several times in the past!
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bonzaii
SBR Hall of Famer
07-07-17
5000
#97
Tony likes short answers. The longer the reply, the more he thinks your full of shit. You should of pretended to be an idiot.
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TheLock
SBR Posting Legend
04-06-08
14427
#98
Originally posted by 5mike5
to be fair its an obvious bad line
so why bother betting it?
Correct
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2daBank
SBR Aristocracy
01-26-09
88966
#99
Originally posted by bonzaii
Tony likes short answers. The longer the reply, the more he thinks your full of shit. You should of pretended to be an idiot.
Judging by this thread it might not be that big a stretch!
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Itsamazing777
SBR Posting Legend
11-14-12
12602
#100
"I dont like your answer" classic tony
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2daBank
SBR Aristocracy
01-26-09
88966
#101
Originally posted by jjgold
Some guys have to watch their backs in this thread
For once I’m actually on the side of the crooked fukks you shill for!!
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fried cheese
SBR MVP
09-17-13
4461
#102
Originally posted by 2daBank
Lol. I mean I guess, like there a tornado and it wiped out the pen? lol. Let’s just be realistic in this case and call it what it was, op was taking a shot like he has been documented doing several times in the past!
i see nothing wrong with taking advantage of a books incompetence.
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5mike5
SBR Aristocracy
09-21-11
52032
#103
Originally posted by bonzaii
Tony likes short answers. The longer the reply, the more he thinks your full of shit. You should of pretended to be an idiot.
So true. Lol
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bonzaii
SBR Hall of Famer
07-07-17
5000
#104
Originally posted by DiggityDaggityDo
Your name is Blair?
Pretty unique name there. Add Tony with Blair and you get this guy
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JohnGalt2341
SBR Hall of Famer
12-31-09
9138
#105
I don't bet bad lines anymore but when I was new to online sportsbetting... in 2009 I think it was... I bet on an MMA fight that was taking place in Japan. The fight was already over when I placed my bet. I don't remember what sportsbook it was but they still paid me for it. I would never take a shot like that now... but I think many people still do. I don't advise anyone to ever bet a bad line but it would be nice if some of the books were more clear on their bad line rules.