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  • USCPHILLYGUY
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 12-15-12
    • 21744

    #36
    Originally posted by Booya711
    Didn’t Delaware already have NFL betting?
    They had parlay cards
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    • inter1097
      SBR Sharp
      • 10-04-09
      • 459

      #37
      "The first lines just appeared at Dover Downs!" https://twitter.com/Eric_Ramsey/stat...08458088255488
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      • LT Profits
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 10-27-06
        • 90963

        #38
        The first lines just appeared on the board at @DoverDowns!








        11:34 AM - 5 Jun 2018
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        • jjgold
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 07-20-05
          • 388189

          #39
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          • trytrytry
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 03-13-06
            • 23649

            #40
            historic photo

            so what is the spread on these MLB

            can you tell?

            Originally posted by LT Profits
            The first lines just appeared on the board at @DoverDowns!








            11:34 AM - 5 Jun 2018
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            • Roscoe_Word
              SBR MVP
              • 02-28-12
              • 3999

              #41
              This board doesn't show the dog price. Rangers and Moore would have to be +105 to be a .20 cent line.
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              • inter1097
                SBR Sharp
                • 10-04-09
                • 459

                #42
                Originally posted by Roscoe_Word
                This board doesn't show the dog price. Rangers and Moore would have to be +105 to be a .20 cent line.

                some dog prices

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                • Roscoe_Word
                  SBR MVP
                  • 02-28-12
                  • 3999

                  #43
                  Originally posted by inter1097
                  Thanks....looks like .20 centers. One hurdle crossed. Remote betting (be it app or web) will be the second.
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                  • cincinnatikid513
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 11-23-17
                    • 45360

                    #44
                    5dimes has washington -245 delaware -260 yikes
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                    • cincinnatikid513
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 11-23-17
                      • 45360

                      #45
                      wonder what wager limits are min and max
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                      • inter1097
                        SBR Sharp
                        • 10-04-09
                        • 459

                        #46
                        Originally posted by cincinnatikid513
                        5dimes has washington -245 delaware -260 yikes
                        Guessing they are expecting heavy betting on the local-ish teams
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                        • Crusherrr
                          SBR MVP
                          • 06-27-16
                          • 3646

                          #47
                          Garbage lines as expected. Itll be the broke bums with $25 bets and under slumming around the book all day long. The real players wont bother at all.
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                          • ABEHONEST
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 06-27-09
                            • 9470

                            #48
                            Now, I could be blind or have one of those closed minds, but excuse me, where is the big plus of leaving your house or home town, go thru heavy traffic, hot weather, deal with idiotic driver's or people in general, and look for and edge at these new Book's?

                            I can't see it right now, but maybe some smart SBR member can help me remove my blinder's?
                            Thanks, for any eyeopening help.

                            And drinks being free? Are we not all expected to tip these free-drink server's? If 95% of patron's tip for free drinks, nope, they are not free.
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                            • 5mike5
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 09-21-11
                              • 51821

                              #49
                              they will base limits off your previous action.

                              1K+ requires approval

                              more juice, worse odds, taxes, less options,ect ect
                              Last edited by 5mike5; 06-05-18, 12:34 PM.
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                              • Crusherrr
                                SBR MVP
                                • 06-27-16
                                • 3646

                                #50
                                Originally posted by 5mike5
                                since they will base ur limits off your previous action, have fun being any kind of winner doing that

                                even 1K requires approval

                                more juice, worse odds, taxes, less options,ect ect

                                what a joke
                                You cant be serious. So if I was a $25 a hand blackjack player and played 2-5NL I probably would be limited to $500. Had to know they would ruin this. It's laughable. Honestly, I thought JJGOLD was being a bit over the top with his non-stop insults of legal sports betting but damn he's dead on. This is a joke. Nothing more, nothing less. Joke. I hope even the biggest of whales smarten up and keep their money offshore. Only thing I'd be happy with is if this speeds up legal/regulated online poker in more states.
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                                • Roscoe_Word
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 02-28-12
                                  • 3999

                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by ABEHONEST
                                  Now, I could be blind or have one of those closed minds, but excuse me, where is the big plus of leaving your house or home town, go thru heavy traffic, hot weather, deal with idiotic driver's or people in general, and look for and edge at these new Book's?

                                  I can't see it right now, but maybe some smart SBR member can help me remove my blinder's?
                                  Thanks, for any eyeopening help.

                                  And drinks being free? Are we not all expected to tip these free-drink server's? If 95% of patron's tip for free drinks, nope, they are not free.
                                  .20 cent lines are tolerable, but remote betting (via app or web) is an important second condition.

                                  Until that happens, definitely agree with ya.
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                                  • 5mike5
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 09-21-11
                                    • 51821

                                    #52
                                    I never did understand people being so excited about this
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                                    • LT Profits
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 10-27-06
                                      • 90963

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by cincinnatikid513
                                      5dimes has washington -245 delaware -260 yikes
                                      Makes sense. Remember, Delaware 20-cent lineset, 5 Dimes dimelines
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                                      • 5mike5
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 09-21-11
                                        • 51821

                                        #54
                                        Wont be a single advantage to any state book over offshore. Not 1
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                                        • thespeculator
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 09-09-08
                                          • 2999

                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by 5mike5
                                          Wont be a single advantage to any state book over offshore. Not 1
                                          the advantage is getting paid if you win, but you are correct the prices will be terrible
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                                          • LT Profits
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 10-27-06
                                            • 90963

                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by 5mike5
                                            Wont be a single advantage to any state book over offshore. Not 1
                                            Except for occasional rogue line. But like I have been saying all along, the reliable offfshores that offer reduced juice will continue to flourish and they could even get stronger as offshores without reduced juice go belly up.
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                                            • 5mike5
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 09-21-11
                                              • 51821

                                              #57
                                              Good point LT
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                                              • temple2010
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 03-16-10
                                                • 1369

                                                #58
                                                Happy for people that can now gamble whenever they want but I don't see the big deal. Offshore is so much better with too many advantages. I'll stick to my couch collecting bonuses and -105 juice and betting in my underwear.
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                                                • LT Profits
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 10-27-06
                                                  • 90963

                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by thespeculator
                                                  the advantage is getting paid if you win,
                                                  Not even an issue at the reliable offshores. Heritage pays same day bitcoin if you request early AM. 5 Dimes annoyingly takes day or two but you still get paid. Those are the prime reduced juice shops.
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                                                  • 5mike5
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 09-21-11
                                                    • 51821

                                                    #60
                                                    The players that dont get paid need to be more educated where to play
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                                                    • cincinnatikid513
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 11-23-17
                                                      • 45360

                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by LT Profits
                                                      Not even an issue at the reliable offshores. Heritage pays same day bitcoin if you request early AM. 5 Dimes annoyingly takes day or two but you still get paid. Those are the prime reduced juice shops.
                                                      seems like the ones who will be hurt are local bookies, u still have alot grandpas and grandmas who like bet 2 dollar show bets who will place sports wagers on there fav team and then there are the broke degens who are homeless and dont have internet who will dig up some change to place a bet
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                                                      • LT Profits
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 10-27-06
                                                        • 90963

                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by cincinnatikid513
                                                        seems like the ones who will be hurt are local bookies, u still have alot grandpas and grandmas who like bet 2 dollar show bets who will place sports wagers on there fav team and then there are the broke degens who are homeless and dont have internet who will dig up some change to place a bet
                                                        Locals won't disappear entirely for the simple fact that they take credit. I also read where quite a few are moving to Utah. (True story)
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                                                        • cincinnatikid513
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 11-23-17
                                                          • 45360

                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by LT Profits
                                                          Locals won't disappear entirely for the simple fact that they take credit. I also read where quite a few are moving to Utah. (True story)
                                                          i wonder when utah will get legal sports betting

                                                          i heard utah has a race track that runs for a few weeks and they run horse races but no betting, sounds fun
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                                                          • Legions36
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 12-17-10
                                                            • 3032

                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by 5mike5
                                                            they will base limits off your previous action.

                                                            1K+ requires approval

                                                            more juice, worse odds, taxes, less options,ect ect
                                                            Is this 1k+ bets when they have to give you a players card and take all your info, that's pathetic? I've never placed a bet other than offshore. If that's right why these guys getting happy about all this....
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                                                            • inter1097
                                                              SBR Sharp
                                                              • 10-04-09
                                                              • 459

                                                              #65
                                                              I think most folks are just excited they can pluck down their 6 team parlay then watch it unfold on several tvs at once.
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                                                              • Legions36
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 12-17-10
                                                                • 3032

                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by temple2010
                                                                Happy for people that can now gamble whenever they want but I don't see the big deal. Offshore is so much better with too many advantages. I'll stick to my couch collecting bonuses and -105 juice and betting in my underwear.
                                                                I can't figure this out either. Why get happy to get less? All the bonuses and reduced juice and pretty much able to bet any amount you want offshore. The only reason I can think of is if they really need that $500 deposit they would make and can't wait for it.
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                                                                • cincinnatikid513
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 11-23-17
                                                                  • 45360

                                                                  #67
                                                                  <a href="https://ibb.co/dndbk8"><img src="https://preview.ibb.co/kE9Sso/De8_Wb_BSU8_AAku_E2.jpg" alt="De8_Wb_BSU8_AAku_E2" border="0"></a>
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                                                                  • cincinnatikid513
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 11-23-17
                                                                    • 45360

                                                                    #68
                                                                    5dimes odds to win world cup


                                                                    Brazil +430
                                                                    Germany +470
                                                                    Spain +615
                                                                    France +660
                                                                    Argentina +950
                                                                    Belgium +1100
                                                                    England +1700
                                                                    Portugal +2500
                                                                    Uruguay +3000
                                                                    Croatia +3300
                                                                    Colombia +4000
                                                                    Russia +4500
                                                                    Poland +7000
                                                                    Denmark +10000
                                                                    Mexico +10000
                                                                    Switzerland +12500
                                                                    Sweden +15000
                                                                    Serbia +19500
                                                                    Peru +20000
                                                                    Egypt +21500
                                                                    Senegal +21500
                                                                    Nigeria +22500
                                                                    Iceland +32500
                                                                    Japan +45000
                                                                    Morocco +50000
                                                                    Australia +60000
                                                                    Costa Rica +65000
                                                                    Iran +67500
                                                                    South Korea +75000
                                                                    Tunisia +100000
                                                                    Panama +150000
                                                                    Saudi Arabia +150000
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                                                                    • Roscoe_Word
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 02-28-12
                                                                      • 3999

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Pros and cons both ways.

                                                                      I remember the BTC procedure. (I don’t use that method
                                                                      anymore)

                                                                      $1,000 from bank to exchange (say Coinbase or Gemini)

                                                                      $1,000 bank > Coinbase = $910 in BTC arrives.
                                                                      (conservative estimation)

                                                                      Down 9% already.

                                                                      $910 from Coinbase or Gemini > personal wallet = $900 arrives
                                                                      in wallet

                                                                      Down 10%

                                                                      Wallet > offshore book $900 arrives

                                                                      Still down 10%

                                                                      You have a good year and make 10% profits.

                                                                      BR at offshore book = $1,000.

                                                                      The BTC journey back begins.

                                                                      Offshore book > personal wallet $990 arrives.

                                                                      $990 from personal wallet > Coinbase or Gemini $980
                                                                      arrives

                                                                      $980 from Coinbase or Gemini > bank 910 arrives in bank
                                                                      -----------------------------------------------------------------------------

                                                                      Result: You’ve had an excellent year in sports betting. You’ve

                                                                      made 10% which outperforms many 401Ks or Mutual Funds. (Except for Axe Capital)

                                                                      Yet your final numbers is -9%

                                                                      Will that happen at a Brick and
                                                                      Mortar sportsbook? Don’t think so.

                                                                      ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


                                                                      The A+ offshore books are solid, no doubt. Posting up at
                                                                      these places was OK by me, but I can see where a lot of players might be leery
                                                                      of sending large amounts offshore now that localized shops are forming.

                                                                      Was Bet Islands an A+? Anything can happen, right. If Leeham
                                                                      Bros can go down, can’t an A+ book?

                                                                      Also, remember the Coinbase debacle; errantly debiting
                                                                      thousands (collectively probably millions) from unsuspecting customers?

                                                                      Also, Does your average sports bettor
                                                                      wanna devout half his time figuring BTC, LiteCoin, satoshis and mBTC formulas,
                                                                      when time and brain space are needed for the complicated procedure of sports
                                                                      handicapping?



                                                                      Does having the ability to bet into a dime line as opposed
                                                                      to a twenty-cent line overcome these obstacles?

                                                                      For some it does, for others it doesn’t.
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                                                                      • 5mike5
                                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                                        • 09-21-11
                                                                        • 51821

                                                                        #70
                                                                        exactly, the books odds will be shit compared to offshore also

                                                                        again 0 reasons unless u wanna watch 6 tvs..and win less still
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