Would Legalized Sports Betting Help States Get Out of the Hole? - WSJ

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  • Sam Odom
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    • 10-30-05
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    #1
    Would Legalized Sports Betting Help States Get Out of the Hole? - WSJ
    The Supreme Court is expected to rule soon on whether to allow legalized sports betting across the country, and many states are lining up at the gate to cash in on the possible tax revenue and job creation.

    Millions of people regularly wager on college and professional games, from office pools to internet gambling to placing bets with a bookie. About $150 billion in sports bets are placed each year, according to estimates from American Gaming Association President Geoff Freeman.


  • jjgold
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 07-20-05
    • 388179

    #2
    no

    It's pennies Sammy to state budgets

    Vegas could care less if they even had it
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    • Sam Odom
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 10-30-05
      • 58063

      #3
      JJ , states have never seen a tax they didnt like
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      • jjgold
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 07-20-05
        • 388179

        #4
        True Sammy

        You could be right not a budget expert here
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        • pilebuck13
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          • 05-15-15
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          #5
          Offshore will take a hit
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          • b1slickguy
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            • 11-24-11
            • 11959

            #6
            Just throwing more money at the problem isn't the solution.
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            • darrell74
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              • 04-16-07
              • 14648

              #7
              Originally posted by pilebuck13
              Offshore will take a hit
              Would be the end of offshore gambling as we know it
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              • A4K
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 10-08-12
                • 5243

                #8
                Originally posted by darrell74
                Would be the end of offshore gambling as we know it
                Not unless the state operations are competitive with juice.
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                • pilebuck13
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 05-15-15
                  • 17918

                  #9
                  Originally posted by A4K
                  Not unless the state operations are competitive with juice.
                  They won’t be but recreational types won’t care...even sharps might take advantage of new ways to get there money under the radar
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                  • jjgold
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 07-20-05
                    • 388179

                    #10
                    Originally posted by pilebuck13
                    Offshore will take a hit
                    Never will dent the top 10


                    Too easy to get down wagers

                    Vegas did not touch it...VEGAS COPIES EVERYTHING FROM OFFSHORE AND EVERY LINE MOVE ALSO

                    Suckers bet -110 lines
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                    • Sam Odom
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 10-30-05
                      • 58063

                      #11
                      Originally posted by pilebuck13

                      Offshore will take a hit

                      mods will lose their easy $$$ jobs
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                      • reigle9
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 10-25-07
                        • 17879

                        #12
                        Originally posted by jjgold
                        no

                        It's pennies Sammy to state budgets

                        Vegas could care less if they even had it
                        pa passed table table games specially cause they were broke

                        couldn't care less you fukkin illiterate jew
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                        • jjgold
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 07-20-05
                          • 388179

                          #13
                          Everyone wants it to be legal

                          Why????? It will make business boom offshore and forums also

                          Gambling will be mainstream like it is in UK and Aussie

                          I will be getting new caddie I always wanted
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                          • JohnGalt2341
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                            • 12-31-09
                            • 9138

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Sam Odom
                            The Supreme Court is expected to rule soon on whether to allow legalized sports betting across the country, and many states are lining up at the gate to cash in on the possible tax revenue and job creation.

                            Millions of people regularly wager on college and professional games, from office pools to internet gambling to placing bets with a bookie. About $150 billion in sports bets are placed each year, according to estimates from American Gaming Association President Geoff Freeman.


                            https://www.wsj.com/articles/would-l...ole-1523098801
                            What's the average age of the people on the Supreme Court? My guess is... most of them have almost zero knowledge of Sportsbetting. AND... most of them have no idea what gambling even is.

                            I think legalization is definitely the direction we are heading... and it's the right direction. But I doubt it will happen anytime soon. The Lottery takes in BAZILLIONS of dollars and their payout is only 50%(meaning your Expected Value is -50% every time you play The Lottery). If Sportsbetting were legal it's payouts would have to be WAY better than 50%. States would have to figure out a way to compete with offshore books while at the same time not drive The Lottery out of business. I realize it's 2 completely different animals... but I think people would eventually figure out that if you want to hit a "Jackpot" you're far better off blindly betting a huge parlay than you are playing The Lottery.
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                            • reigle9
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                              • 10-25-07
                              • 17879

                              #15
                              Originally posted by jjgold
                              Everyone wants it to be legal

                              Why????? It will make business boom offshore and forums also

                              Gambling will be mainstream like it is in UK and Aussie

                              I will be getting new caddie I always wanted
                              just what i want, a 20% vig
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                              • Sam Odom
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 10-30-05
                                • 58063

                                #16
                                John

                                15c vig across the board on all ATS bets
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                                • Sam Odom
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 10-30-05
                                  • 58063

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by reigle9

                                  20% vig
                                  Originally posted by Sam Odom

                                  John

                                  15c vig across the board on all ATS bets

                                  could be .20

                                  suckers would still bet into it
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                                  • Hot Jerry
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                                    • 08-16-13
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                                    #18
                                    I wouldn't hurt , every dollar counts !
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                                    • pilebuck13
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                                      • 05-15-15
                                      • 17918

                                      #19
                                      Sammy is + wagers only way to make it?
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                                      • reigle9
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 10-25-07
                                        • 17879

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Sam Odom
                                        could be .20

                                        suckers would still bet into it
                                        don't get me wrong, i want it to be legalized for the competition

                                        anyone that's not a fukkin loser dipshit knows that competition in any market is good

                                        7 cent lines on dimes is about as good as it gets, but maybe competition forces them to add a cash bonus program or some shit
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                                        • Sam Odom
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 10-30-05
                                          • 58063

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by pilebuck13

                                          Sammy is + wagers only way to make it?

                                          vig is vig

                                          if it should be +150 (true fair market) yet it is +135

                                          +135 sucks
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                                          • reigle9
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 10-25-07
                                            • 17879

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Sam Odom
                                            vig is vig
                                            there should be a pinned thread with stuff like this

                                            amazing how clueless people are
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                                            • 7deuceoff$uit
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 04-08-16
                                              • 2212

                                              #23
                                              Not sure if it will help California. Every election a prop gets put on the ballot to tax A which will help B, and the next time around we still have problem B and the solution is to tax more of A.
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                                              • JohnGalt2341
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                                                • 12-31-09
                                                • 9138

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Sam Odom
                                                John

                                                15c vig across the board on all ATS bets
                                                So... basically what Fantasy Sports currently charges? 15c vig works for Fantasy Sports because the format of it is almost identical to the Lottery's format. It's much easier to hide the high Vig in this type of format. High vigs are going to be much more difficult to hide in ATS Sportsbetting. I think they would have to lower the Vig and I don't think they would be willing to... at least not anytime soon.
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                                                • big joe 1212
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                                                  • 06-01-08
                                                  • 19380

                                                  #25
                                                  It doesn’t matter how much tax revenue states raise. They will always find ways to overspend. Thus, they will always be in the hole.
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                                                  • jjgold
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 07-20-05
                                                    • 388179

                                                    #26
                                                    Fantasy sports was a major flop
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                                                    • ans61201
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 10-11-15
                                                      • 3661

                                                      #27
                                                      Lol. Offshore books would get crushed by this. Laughable that this thread even feels that's up for debate.
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                                                      • reigle9
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                                                        • 10-25-07
                                                        • 17879

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by ans61201
                                                        Lol. Offshore books would get crushed by this. Laughable that this thread even feels that's up for debate.
                                                        you don't understand reality
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                                                        • big joe 1212
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                                                          • 06-01-08
                                                          • 19380

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by ans61201
                                                          Lol. Offshore books would get crushed by this. Laughable that this thread even feels that's up for debate.
                                                          They would take a small hit but not much. Most gamblers who play offshore would continue to do so for many reasons. The local bookies would be the ones taking a hit.
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                                                          • pilebuck13
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                                                            • 05-15-15
                                                            • 17918

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by big joe 1212
                                                            They would take a small hit but not much. Most gamblers who play offshore would continue to do so for many reasons. The local bookies would be the ones taking a hit.
                                                            Disagree, sharks and credit become giant they legalize it...
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                                                            • reigle9
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                                                              • 10-25-07
                                                              • 17879

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by big joe 1212
                                                              They would take a small hit but not much. Most gamblers who play offshore would continue to do so for many reasons. The local bookies would be the ones taking a hit.
                                                              maybe 1% of the money bet is in local bookies

                                                              a "local" is a crazy concept to 99.9999999999999999999999999999999999999 9999999999% of bettors, i'm a fukkin scumbag and i'd have trouble finding one
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                                                              • jjgold
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 07-20-05
                                                                • 388179

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by reigle9
                                                                you don't understand reality
                                                                Guy an idiot
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                                                                • RangeFinder
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                                                                  • 10-27-16
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Even if it passes we're looking at 5 years before it gets going

                                                                  Government will screw it up somehow by too many regulations to the point where most states will see -120 or higher on football and basketball spreads
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                                                                  • pilebuck13
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                                                                    • 05-15-15
                                                                    • 17918

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Can’t you buy sports betting tickets at gas stations in Canada what’s the juice like?
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                                                                    • jjgold
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 07-20-05
                                                                      • 388179

                                                                      #35
                                                                      offshore is just too entrenched now

                                                                      VEGAS NEEDS IT REAL BSD TO SURVIVE

                                                                      They would not know how to make sports odds without it
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