Really FSU - you don't foul with 10 seconds left?

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  • pavyracer
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 04-12-07
    • 82839

    #36
    We will find out 30 years from now what happened when one of the FSU players is broke and he agrees to do an interview for money.
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    • Mac4Lyfe
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 01-04-09
      • 48384

      #37
      Originally posted by Wrongside
      Reporter Grilling him. I feel bad for him. He’s a class act and a motivator of men. He’s not a late-game situation type of coach. That’s not his forte. All coaches can’t be everything
      He looks totally clueless in this interview. He didn't know the time or the situation. Totally confused.. I like him as a person but he's not a great X's and O's. Hell, most of these coaches are not good schematically, especially Calipari.


      Dana Jacobsen did a great job skewering him here...

      Take me through the final seconds. Why didn't you foul...
      What are you talking about?
      Down the stretch of the game, the end of the game 11 seconds on the clock.
      Do you think that the game came down to the final seconds of the game?
      I'm asking you wy that decision in the final seconds of the game
      The game was over
      You didn't think you guys could get back in it , put them on the line and if they miss those shots
      you mean with 15 seconds on the clock, well what were we down
      put them on the line, they miss a few shots
      ...Hamilton was about to walk away
      a 4 point ballgame it's a question the guys ask at the end of the game. It didn't come down to that in your mind.
      I thought they did a great job, they had a great game plan. They forced us into turnovers. You need to give them credit. I want to give them credit.

      Hamilton was totally out of his element at the end of the game. But, he's just like every other coach, who chokes down the stretch. That's why Saban and Belicheck is so far ahead of everyone else. They hire people to track all the clock management, personnel stats, who to foul, who to go after 1 on 1. They are playing chess while all these other coaches are playing tiddly winks.
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      • Ra77er
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 06-20-11
        • 10969

        #38
        What the mantra for degenerates? Good coaches win Great coaches cover right? Leonard did his job.
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        • Wrongside
          SBR MVP
          • 09-26-15
          • 3579

          #39
          He was probably bracing - and expecting her to ask why you fouled so early and often, but then she asked “why DIDNT you foul?” Threw him off.
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          • krk1030
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 08-13-08
            • 17610

            #40
            Most likely he wanted to foul and they just didn't and he was not going to trash his players.
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            • pavyracer
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 04-12-07
              • 82839

              #41
              He is a bad coach. When you are down by 4 with 20 sevonds left you don't shoot a 3 with 15 seconds left and then don't foul. Unless your children are taken hostages and are threatened to be killed unless the game lands on 4.
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              • TheMoneyShot
                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                • 02-14-07
                • 28672

                #42
                Originally posted by pavyracer
                He is a bad coach. When you are down by 4 with 20 sevonds left you don't shoot a 3 with 15 seconds left and then don't foul. Unless your children are taken hostages and are threatened to be killed unless the game lands on 4.
                That black coach did the opposite of everything...

                He was down by 3 with 50 seconds to go.... and fouled... (should of just played defense)

                And he was down by 4 with 11 seconds to go... (and doesn't foul)

                You can't make this sh#$ up
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                • jtoler
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                  • 12-17-13
                  • 30967

                  #43
                  Originally posted by krk1030
                  Most likely he wanted to foul and they just didn't and he was not going to trash his players.
                  Was my first thought after I found out it wasnt 6 seconds like I read someone post since I didnt get to see the end. Game over, no need to cry over spilled milk, not gonna throw kid's under the bus on national tv.
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                  • Art Vandelay
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 09-11-06
                    • 6690

                    #44
                    Originally posted by krk1030
                    Most likely he wanted to foul and they just didn't and he was not going to trash his players.
                    But Hamilton didn't want to foul! The final play was 2 feet in front of him by his bench. He just stood there. He could easily have gotten his players attention if he wanted them to foul. It's the freakin Final Four on the line - Len, you might want to go down swinging... Pathetic
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                    • bonz
                      SBR Sharp
                      • 06-09-17
                      • 324

                      #45
                      FSU would have hit 3 pointer after free throws anyhow so everybody gets ficked.... Trust me on this NO way out
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                      • bonz
                        SBR Sharp
                        • 06-09-17
                        • 324

                        #46
                        Hopefully you got 4 if not it's our fault.
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                        • bonz
                          SBR Sharp
                          • 06-09-17
                          • 324

                          #47
                          Move on lost 2800. Half at 4.5 small at 3.5 pushed 1000
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                          • bonz
                            SBR Sharp
                            • 06-09-17
                            • 324

                            #48
                            What about the foul on the 3 pointer. There's lots. The free throws. Come on it stupid. Bad run.
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                            • ArunSh
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 09-24-07
                              • 6801

                              #49
                              Yes, I don't get this stuff. I had FSU +4.5, so I'm glad but this general way of doing things in college games is so crazy to me. Purdue yesterday and Kansas State today both fouling with less than a minute left when down double digits while FSU doesn't foul down 4? Very fishy stuff. And given what the spread was, well certainly brings up possibilities...
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                              • bonz
                                SBR Sharp
                                • 06-09-17
                                • 324

                                #50
                                Get over it guys. Tough loss I know. Keep calm and grind 53
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                                • bonz
                                  SBR Sharp
                                  • 06-09-17
                                  • 324

                                  #51
                                  Stay calm. Haha these games set gamblers on warpath. Think weeks not days. Just bet the same amount don't worry about bad beats it works out
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                                  • El Nino
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 05-03-12
                                    • 18426

                                    #52
                                    [IMG]<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Florida State head coach Leonard Hamilton on the decision not to foul with 11 seconds remaining.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MarchMadness?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc% 5Etfw">#MarchMadness</a> <a href="https://t.co/IxlWNnuPRa">pic.twitter.com/IxlWNnuPRa</a></p>&mdash; March Madness TV (@MarchMadnessTV) <a href="https://twitter.com/MarchMadnessTV/status/977749425702359040?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw"> March 25, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>[/IMG]
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                                    • bonz
                                      SBR Sharp
                                      • 06-09-17
                                      • 324

                                      #53
                                      Not bad el Nino that's why they call it the blues
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                                      • bonz
                                        SBR Sharp
                                        • 06-09-17
                                        • 324

                                        #54
                                        Those old grasshoppers in 86'. Fukkin remote controls.
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                                        • bonz
                                          SBR Sharp
                                          • 06-09-17
                                          • 324

                                          #55
                                          Back when Sting was doing something
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                                          • champlain
                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                            • 03-19-14
                                            • 713

                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by ArunSh
                                            Yes, I don't get this stuff. I had FSU +4.5, so I'm glad but this general way of doing things in college games is so crazy to me. Purdue yesterday and Kansas State today both fouling with less than a minute left when down double digits while FSU doesn't foul down 4? Very fishy stuff. And given what the spread was, well certainly brings up possibilities...
                                            Your mistake is you think everybody acts rationally, much less than 18-22 year old kids. I saw in the nba, Schroeder going for a layup with seconds left with his team trailing by three. Sure, in your mind, there’s still a miracle chance of winning if you foul and you make two shots but, come on, that doesn’t happen 99% of time.
                                            If they try to fix the game, do you really think that it will be so on the nose that that ended right at the spread? That coach is making millions of dollars every year decides to throw it away to cover one game? You’re stupid if you think that.
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                                            • klemopixx
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 10-02-14
                                              • 3807

                                              #57
                                              The coach and those kids made a mistake. It was a Chris Webber moment, plain and simple. Blame it on the coach for poor preparation in late game situations. That late 3-pointer was the same way. They didn't practice that play enough to get a clean shot off and those kids panicked. Mediocre coaching at it's worst.
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                                              • champlain
                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                • 03-19-14
                                                • 713

                                                #58
                                                I watched the highlights and you can clearly see Hamilton complaining to the ref about the no-call on the three pointer. When he screamed to foul, it was too late and Robinson was running away from the defender. By then, it was too late.
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                                                • ChuckyTheGoat
                                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                  • 04-04-11
                                                  • 37475

                                                  #59
                                                  U see Robinson when he realized there would be no foul? Looked like kid on Xmas morning.
                                                  Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                                                  • jjgold
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 07-20-05
                                                    • 388179

                                                    #60
                                                    Only people complaining are losing bettors which is probably 1% of the target audience
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                                                    • pavyracer
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 04-12-07
                                                      • 82839

                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
                                                      That black coach did the opposite of everything...

                                                      He was down by 3 with 50 seconds to go.... and fouled... (should of just played defense)

                                                      And he was down by 4 with 11 seconds to go... (and doesn't foul)

                                                      You can't make this sh#$ up
                                                      You are right about the foul at 50 seconds and I will tell you why he did it.

                                                      If they play defense and get the rebound there is a chance they tie the game with a 3 and game goes to overtime where there is a chance to not cover the spread. So he wanted the spread to go up by 4 then tells them to shoot a contested 3 with 12 seconds left and yells them to not foul.
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                                                      • HockeyRocks
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 07-10-13
                                                        • 6069

                                                        #62
                                                        I took M down to 4 so i pushed, however, when the reporter asked the coach why didn't you foul and he said, "What are you talking about, the game was over." I thought WTF kind of coach is this.......This is a surrender coach...
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                                                        • Sam Odom
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 10-30-05
                                                          • 58063

                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by pavyracer
                                                          You are right about the foul at 50 seconds and I will tell you why he did it.

                                                          If they play defense and get the rebound there is a chance they tie the game with a 3 and game goes to overtime where there is a chance to not cover the spread. So he wanted the spread to go up by 4 then tells them to shoot a contested 3 with 12 seconds left and yells them to not foul.


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                                                          • Harry N. Lloyd
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 03-26-08
                                                            • 4810

                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by lakerboy
                                                            Why is no one talking about the line move?
                                                            What line move was that? From -4.5 to -4? A half point line move now is a scandal.

                                                            Guys, it was nothing more than terrible coaching. The guy is an unabashed moron.
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                                                            • DOM_Toretto
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                                                              • 01-28-13
                                                              • 9035

                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by El Nino
                                                              [IMG]<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Florida State head coach Leonard Hamilton on the decision not to foul with 11 seconds remaining.<a rel="nofollow" href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MarchMadness?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc% 5Etfw">#MarchMadness</a> <a rel="nofollow" href="https://t.co/IxlWNnuPRa">pic.twitter.com/IxlWNnuPRa</a></p>&mdash; March Madness TV (@MarchMadnessTV) <a rel="nofollow" href="https://twitter.com/MarchMadnessTV/status/977749425702359040?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw"> March 25, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>[/IMG]
                                                              WOW. Cringeworthy
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                                                              • DOM_Toretto
                                                                Restricted User
                                                                • 01-28-13
                                                                • 9035

                                                                #66
                                                                Unexplainable. Tell me Leonard Hamilton didn’t have FSU +4.5. Go ahead, tell me he didn’t.
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                                                                • ThaTopMoron
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                                                                  • 04-30-10
                                                                  • 27020

                                                                  #67
                                                                  why the hell are you people arguing or debating this? we all know what's up here and there when it comes to spreads... college, NBA, NFL

                                                                  why do you think some guys around here are ML players... lol for games like that where all it takes is one more foul 10 sec left and a miss or 2 by losing team and spread is a winner. instead, they just stand around like they are down 7+

                                                                  what a hilarious thread
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                                                                  • MoneyLineDawg
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 01-01-09
                                                                    • 13253

                                                                    #68
                                                                    I don’t think they did it on purpose...just dumb and poorly coached in late game situations
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                                                                    • ChuckyTheGoat
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                                                                      • 04-04-11
                                                                      • 37475

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by DOM_Toretto
                                                                      Unexplainable. Tell me Leonard Hamilton didn’t have FSU +4.5. Go ahead, tell me he didn’t.
                                                                      Pitino did something similar in Final Four game years ago. Wanted Louisville alums to cash +8.5 ticket, so he hollered "no fouls."
                                                                      Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                                                                      • Ghenghis Kahn
                                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                                        • 01-02-12
                                                                        • 19734

                                                                        #70
                                                                        Originally posted by ChuckyTheGoat
                                                                        Pitino did something similar in Final Four game years ago. Wanted Louisville alums to cash +8.5 ticket, so he hollered "no fouls."
                                                                        Yes I remember this game. There was close to 30 seconds left in the clock. All sporys are shady. You just have to be lucky and have the right side... whatever that means.
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