The better team is getting 4.5

**Bostongambler** · 02-04-18, 01:12 PM

The team with the best QB and best coach and 5 rings only giving 4.5.

**2daBank** · 02-04-18, 01:12 PM

Not if you include qb's. It's a shame wentz not playing cause eagles would be the better team and I have no doubt win. Not gonna happen w foles, you just being a fan.

**Booya711** · 02-04-18, 01:13 PM

Originally posted by dlunc3

Bet accordingly

Originally posted by Bostongambler

The team with the best QB and best coach and 5 rings only giving 4.5.

**GzaTheGenius** · 02-04-18, 01:14 PM

If Wentz was playing I agree

No fukkin chance Foles goes over 75% completion percentage or 10-14 on 3rd down

Eagles won't win unless they get a defensive TD or two

**2daBank** · 02-04-18, 01:17 PM

Originally posted by GzaTheGenius

If Wentz was playing I agree

No fukkin chance Foles goes over 75% completion percentage or 10-14 on 3rd down

Eagles won't win unless they get a defensive TD or two

Plus they play lot of zone. Brady carves zone up. The fact they had to figure out what foles does best/comfortable with means hoody will also figure that out and stop it. That might open up more for eagles run game but a good rushing attack not gonna outscore Brady running no huddle against cover 3..

**dlunc3** · 02-04-18, 01:21 PM

Originally posted by Bostongambler

The team with the best QB and best coach and 5 rings only giving 4.5.

Yet even with the best qb and best coach of all time, they have covered 4.5 points just 1 time out of 7. And that 1 time took a miracle come back and overtime.

This is the worst Pats team out of their 8 Super Bowls. The eagles have by far the superior offensive and defensive lines. Game could easily be won in the trenches.

If Tom and bill overcome having a much less talented team around them, it shouldn’t be by more than 4 points.

**magaman** · 02-04-18, 01:23 PM

Patriots early and often. Brady has plenty of crap to fuel himself, that is what he does. Eagles feel so happy to be there.

Pats -0.5 Q1

Pats any alt line you choose depending how risky you want to go. Pats will win in convincing fashion

**dlunc3** · 02-04-18, 01:23 PM

Originally posted by 2daBank

Plus they play lot of zone. Brady carves zone up. The fact they had to figure out what foles does best/comfortable with means hoody will also figure that out and stop it. That might open up more for eagles run game but a good rushing attack not gonna outscore Brady running no huddle against cover 3..

Brady’s biggest weakness is pressure down the middle. Good chance he has a big cox in his face all night.

**dlunc3** · 02-04-18, 01:24 PM

Originally posted by magaman

Patriots early and often. Brady has plenty of crap to fuel himself, that is what he does. Eagles feel so happy to be there.

Pats -0.5 Q1

Pats any alt line you choose depending how risky you want to go. Pats will win in convincing fashion

.5 points in the first quarter will be more than tom has scored in all of his other sb combined (all 7!). Not saying it won’t win, but just throwing that out there...

**Slipknot26** · 02-04-18, 01:29 PM

Pats -4.5
Pats-14.5 +318
Foles vs Brady , not really anything to compare.
Hell even Eagles fans have been waiting on Foles to collapse this year , now the pressure of the Superbowl is added .
I don't see a competitive game but that's why we gamble
Pats 34-17

**2daBank** · 02-04-18, 01:32 PM

Originally posted by dlunc3

Brady’s biggest weakness is pressure down the middle. Good chance he has a big cox in his face all night.

I'm sure that will happen at times, especially early, but I'm also sure they will run bunch of no huddle and wear eagles big uglies down. Plus he gonna be getting rid of ball fast cause unlike against the jags he will have guys free right from snap against eagles cover 3.. I honestly don't hate the idea of taking the points, when it was 6 I was close to taking eagles, but once ml dropped and I was able to get pats -190 that was way I had to go. While it true they don't win big I think it more likely they cover than lose. I'm perfectly fine with another fg victory even tho I think it gonna be more. Gl bud

**magaman** · 02-04-18, 01:50 PM

The better team is getting 4.5 points huh? Is that because linesmakers want to give $$ away? Maybe it is because it's a small trivial game and it has been overlooked? Or maybe it is because your analysis is dead wrong.

Take your pick, it is one of the choices listed above

**dlunc3** · 02-04-18, 02:01 PM

Originally posted by magaman

The better team is getting 4.5 points huh? Is that because linesmakers want to give $$ away? Maybe it is because it's a small trivial game and it has been overlooked? Or maybe it is because your analysis is dead wrong.

Take your pick, it is one of the choices listed above

See my post above. Tom and bill win games, they don’t blow teams out. Esp with their worst sb team ever vs a team with significantly more talent. PFF broke down position by position and it’s not even close. The tom/bill factor could be enough to get a win. I’ll take the superior talent at +4.5 (I got +5.5) though who will dominate the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball

**2daBank** · 02-04-18, 02:06 PM

I'd argue their 1st super bowl team was the worst but too tough for me to remember 18 years ago to make the argument, lol. They were huge underdogs to the rams tho so yea prob their worst team as think only time they were dogs.

**GzaTheGenius** · 02-04-18, 02:09 PM

Originally posted by 2daBank

I'd argue their 1st super bowl team was the worst but too tough for me to remember 18 years ago to make the argument, lol. They were huge underdogs to the rams tho so yea prob their worst team as think only time they were dogs.

Small dog vs Seattle too I think

**jtoler** · 02-04-18, 02:09 PM

No Deion Branch to save Brady this time.

**champlain** · 02-04-18, 02:50 PM

People are way overreacting to Wentz. He has a 60% completion percentage this year; which is 25th in the league. His yards per pass is better but not even top 10. The eagles were winning big and everyone gave the credit to him and saying he’s mvp. Don’t get me wrong, he is good but... i’m betting eagles money line because you will not get this price ever again with Wentz coming back next year with this stacked team.

**ikid2groove415** · 02-04-18, 03:12 PM

I will give 4.5 just on the coaching alone

**ikid2groove415** · 02-04-18, 03:14 PM

Go ahead and bet on Nick Foles aka Napoleon dynamite !! Wise money on the best coach and qb that ever play the game !!

**magaman** · 02-04-18, 03:20 PM

I can be proved wrong just like anybody here within the next 6 hours... but any Superbowl over the last 10+ years involving the Patriots is a no-brainer. They have been dominating in terms of QB play and Coaching for many years, and after that is established there is really no need to dive in the weeds.

But I know that many people want to pick against them, or find some way to make the choice more complicated than it really is. It's all good that is why there is a market.

**jtoler** · 02-04-18, 03:27 PM

Somehow the "GOAT" never won a Super Bowl by more than 3 pts until the last two against Seattle and Falcs. And we know how both of those went, they were lucky wins, very flukey, Pats had to rely on chokes to win by 4 against Seattle and 6 against Falcs. All of the Brady's Super Bowl wins have been razor thin, last second fg kicking, luck jobs. The books are trolling you as usual with this line as they do everyday, they are basically asking you to bet on the "GOAT" doing something he's never done before without a team gifting it to him, and that is winning by more than 3 without a team handing to him on a silver platter, if it happens today it'll be the first time, pass.

**magaman** · 02-04-18, 03:29 PM

Originally posted by jtoler

Somehow the "GOAT" never won a Super Bowl by more than 3 pts until the last two against Seattle and Falcs. And we know how both of those went, they were lucky wins, very flukey, Pats had to rely on chokes to win by 4 against Seattle and 6 against Falcs. All of the "GOAT'S" Super Bowl wins have been razor thin, last second fg kicking, luck jobs. The books are trolling you as usual with this line as they do everyday, they are basically asking you to bet on the "GOAT" doing something he's never done before without a team gifting it to him, and that is winning by more than 3 without a team handing to him on a silver platter, if it happens today it'll be the first time, pass.

The more prepared team tends to get lucky. All that matters is the result. Plenty of talk about close games, and slow starts in Q1

therefore I will play pats Q1 and alt line for game. pats score early and often.

**shocka1212** · 02-04-18, 03:31 PM

Originally posted by dlunc3

Bet accordingly

I used to sit here and wonder how people could lose so much money on big NFL games.... and then I read some garbage like this. have fun betting on Philly because pats taped a practice 16 years ago. unreal fanbase....

**shocka1212** · 02-04-18, 03:31 PM

Originally posted by ikid2groove415

I will give 4.5 just on the coaching alone

really don't even think it will be that close. this has Steve young niners Super Bowl written all over it.

**Slipknot26** · 02-04-18, 03:34 PM

Damn , do you guys really put any of the past SB results into today ?
They don't mean shit today
It's Eagles of today vs Pats of today . End of discussion
Seems a lot trying to justify why Eagles are going to cover haha

**ikid2groove415** · 02-04-18, 03:55 PM

Taking under 1st quarter 9.5

**Grits n' Gravy** · 02-04-18, 04:07 PM

The better team, the Pats, are favored. Not sure what spread you are looking at.

Crazy to see all the Philly love. Pederson will rely on the lessons he learned studying under Andy Reid in crunch time.

Also, the Eagles owner looks like the book publisher from Seinfeld.

**mngambler** · 02-04-18, 04:14 PM

as per usual, Brady will pull out his dong and drag it across the Eagles players faces....Pats win quite easily 27-17

**KRIT** · 02-04-18, 04:35 PM

Sure Eagles have the better overall team, but QB is a huge mismatch. Having the better overall roster in NFL doesn't mean crap when it is a QB driven league. Pats win, you really think Brady is gonna lose to Nick Foles? You're being a homer.

**dlunc3** · 02-04-18, 04:39 PM

Originally posted by shocka1212

I used to sit here and wonder how people could lose so much money on big NFL games.... and then I read some garbage like this. have fun betting on Philly because pats taped a practice 16 years ago. unreal fanbase....

Weren’t you the one touting the Vikings 2 weeks ago?

**dlunc3** · 02-04-18, 04:41 PM

Originally posted by KRIT

Sure Eagles have the better overall team, but QB is a huge mismatch. Having the better overall roster in NFL doesn't mean crap when it is a QB driven league. Pats win, you really think Brady is gonna lose to Nick Foles? You're being a homer.

Cover, yes. We’ll see

**Statman** · 02-04-18, 04:54 PM

Only way Philly has a shot is their D putting pressure on Brady.....If that does not happen, this is over from the get go. Don't think Philly can go "toe to toe" with Brady and come out with the W. Either Philly and under and NE and over is the only way I see it.

**ikid2groove415** · 02-04-18, 05:24 PM

Originally posted by shocka1212

really don't even think it will be that close. this has Steve young niners Super Bowl written all over it.

This is Brady 8th super bowl !! They never blow anyone out !!

**2daBank** · 02-04-18, 05:26 PM

Originally posted by ikid2groove415

This is Brady 8th super bowl !! They never blow anyone out !!

There a 1st time for everything, far as I'm aware this the first backup qb they facing correct?