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  • ABEHONEST
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 06-27-09
    • 9470

    #1
    A puzzling question about a major Book and Books?
    Big Book, yet one of the biggest college basketball games of the year and you are allowed to buy but* 1-point of your choice? I know a cheapie that will allow 1 and 1/2 points, so why not this big Book?

    Another question? Do you have a hard time respecting professional Books? Just curious but if you can see where they use every gimmick in the book to snag your loot, it just doesn't set right to me.
    Not cheating, I am saying, but tricks and camouflage and limits on certain games they seem afraid of when you hear of other Books with the same game and no limits or line juggling.
    By the way, line juggling can drive a bettor insane and they are getting a little too good at that.

    Do you think Books stall so you cannot get your wager in? I mean, if you think you have a very sound play--maybe it's hot--do you think they make you wait till tip-off sometimes so you cannot get down?
  • CWD
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    • 01-22-12
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    #2
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    • kidcudi92
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 12-14-11
      • 15434

      #3
      tl:dr
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      • jjgold
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 07-20-05
        • 388179

        #4
        The more gimmicks books offer the more money for them

        Books no most players have no control and will bet everything

        Gimmick bettors get buried..changing lines..etc
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        • RoyBacon
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          • 09-21-05
          • 37074

          #5
          I don’t care about any of those points. I do make sure I’m well funded at 3 top notch books.

          Now live in game betting can be frustrating. Even in the phone in days with the local you could get shut out waiting until game time. If you’re waiting until the last minute you gotta expect issues.
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          • grease lightnin
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 10-01-12
            • 16015

            #6
            Abe are you referring to teaser protection lines, or books not allowing you to buy points on certain games or at all...OR WHAT??

            You are about as clear as a mud puddle, pal. Six paragraphs and we still don’t know what the hell you’re l talking about.
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            • jjgold
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 07-20-05
              • 388179

              #7
              Abe sharp cookie
              Looking for edges
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              • Sam Odom
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 10-30-05
                • 58063

                #8
                Originally posted by grease lightnin

                You are about as clear as a mud puddle, pal. Six paragraphs and we still don’t know what the hell you’re l talking about.

                thats ABE
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                • ace7550
                  SBR MVP
                  • 05-08-15
                  • 3729

                  #9
                  bookmaker and betonline. Never had a problem. Bets go through within a half second. Rarely get the line changed on me.
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                  • swordsandtequila
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                    • 02-23-12
                    • 9758

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Sam Odom
                    thats ABE
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                    • ABEHONEST
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                      • 06-27-09
                      • 9470

                      #11
                      Originally posted by CWD
                      I know what you mean. Complete assholes like you are hard to please.
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                      • jtoler
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                        • 12-17-13
                        • 30967

                        #12
                        Spit it out Abe.
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                        • ABEHONEST
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 06-27-09
                          • 9470

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Sam Odom
                          thats ABE
                          I suppose this proves Sam is a sociopath? Because, I will have to keep reminding our members on board, what a complete mess his ridiculous Book touting did to me.
                          No shame and no conscience. Tanks a lot Samuel, the Oil-Can-Harry of SBR. Have you spent the payoff money yet?
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                          • juicername
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                            • 10-14-15
                            • 6906

                            #14
                            Don't mind the trolls Abe. To answer your question; yes, several books offer live betting nowadays, in fact, most of them do. If your current one doesn't you might want to look to expand your options.

                            Cheers
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                            • ABEHONEST
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 06-27-09
                              • 9470

                              #15
                              Originally posted by grease lightnin
                              Abe are you referring to teaser protection lines, or books not allowing you to buy points on certain games or at all...OR WHAT??

                              You are about as clear as a mud puddle, pal. Six paragraphs and we still don’t know what the hell you’re l talking about.
                              Gee, Grease, just like I stated it. Are you a rookie bettor? And "we"covers about 600 members on SBR.
                              Okay, I see a lot of stalling around with Books these days. I mean, you have 5 minutes til post and they, generally speaking, are recycling their website where you cannot get in even with a blow torch, much less get a wager in close to post time. Veteran bettor's know, line changing can be crucial and you have to on your toes to keep from getting the wrong spread.
                              Recycling at kick-off? Purposely, or web problems? I wish I knew, but changing lines after the bet is in place is a real hazard for bettors.
                              I was limited to buying 1 point Grease on one of the biggest college games you'll see all year. WTF?
                              And this beaut; Sir, we don't offer refunds? Remember Bovada? Well, those tightwads refused, too, even when I proved their software caused the *****problem. Well they're gone and simply need to just shut down.
                              And had almost the same problem with a reputable Book, well they used to be I do believe? Now it's the same hs: Sorry, we do not offer refunds--------------even when the bet in just in 1 minute ago.
                              And what do you think will happen when the go into that juggling act with point spreads? Yes, fk-ups.
                              Now, is this gouging the betters something new, or is it the economy pushing these Books to cut the bettors throat when you have the chance?

                              Is there another Book that will give you a courtesy refund when it's an obvious mistake? NUTS!
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                              • gauchojake
                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                • 09-17-10
                                • 34117

                                #16
                                No refunds. Caveat emptor.
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                                • grease lightnin
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 10-01-12
                                  • 16015

                                  #17
                                  Abe, so the line you’re getting is different than the line on the confirm screen where you click submit?

                                  I do not know what “recycling” a website is, but I would think big books would be busy at kickoff time of big games. Which could mean server overload because of traffic, as well as a lot of line moves.

                                  If if you want a lot of flexibility with buying/selling points, I would check out 5dimes. Last I checked they had the most flexibility with alt lines.

                                  As as far as a refund??? I haven’t seen that happen very often. But if you were the bookmaker, would you want to give a refund when your line, and other wagers you took may have been affected by the wager you want refunded?
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                                  • Sam Odom
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 10-30-05
                                    • 58063

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by ABEHONEST

                                    I will have to keep reminding our members on board, what a complete mess his (Sammy's) ridiculous Book touting did to me.

                                    "me" being the operative word


                                    Without reservation... Would recommend the below. Am funded presently at these (Pinny in a round about way):


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                                    • ABEHONEST
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 06-27-09
                                      • 9470

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by grease lightnin
                                      Abe, so the line you’re getting is different than the line on the confirm screen where you click submit?

                                      I do not know what “recycling” a website is, but I would think big books would be busy at kickoff time of big games. Which could mean server overload because of traffic, as well as a lot of line moves.

                                      If if you want a lot of flexibility with buying/selling points, I would check out 5dimes. Last I checked they had the most flexibility with alt lines.

                                      As as far as a refund??? I haven’t seen that happen very often. But if you were the bookmaker, would you want to give a refund when your line, and other wagers you took may have been affected by the wager you want refunded?
                                      Well, Grease, it should depend 75% on how good of a customer you have been. The other 25% should be a combo of common courtesy [remember those days ] and the amount of the wager. My strong opinion: Anything less than 500 should be only snickered at. I mean, they take a thousand or more on these games.
                                      Still, I lean heavily toward the common courtesy answer being the best for all concerned.
                                      Yes, some of these Books--all regular bettor's know this, stalling, or the other, overloading their software within an hour or less before post time is becoming serious prob.

                                      So spend few thou of our losses and get the MFR solved!
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                                      • ABEHONEST
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                                        • 06-27-09
                                        • 9470

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Sam Odom
                                        "me" being the operative word


                                        Without reservation... Would recommend the below. Am funded presently at these (Pinny in a round about way):


                                        I am sure, of all these posted, one stands out like MY sore thumb [or butt]. And for a buck or two wager, I bet you could guess which one, blindfolded?
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                                        • Sam Odom
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 10-30-05
                                          • 58063

                                          #21
                                          HRWager

                                          But ABE... it was proven you did not read and/or understand the Bonus regulations

                                          You got butt hurt then began crying on the forum - Sorry , but that is the truth
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                                          • ABEHONEST
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 06-27-09
                                            • 9470

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Sam Odom
                                            HRWager

                                            But ABE... it was proven you did not read and/or understand the Bonus regulations

                                            You got butt hurt then began crying on the forum - Sorry , but that is the truth
                                            I didn't mention any Book since then. But you do and what good does it do you, personally? You need to stop working against your fellow gamblers and start looking out for them. You failed and still refuse to be honest enough to admit that flaw in you. For one thing, this is a fact, for wherever it's worth--it's as it originally was, the same reason I first protested that ridiculous insurmountable bonus rule. It's friggin' impossible and I was told more than once...cough-cough, customers do it all the time.
                                            * All the time means, routinely.

                                            Maybe Sam should retire from the tout business and start being a simple bettor?
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                                            • Sam Odom
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 10-30-05
                                              • 58063

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by ABEHONEST

                                              For one thing, this is a fact, for wherever it's worth--it's as it originally was, the same reason I first protested that ridiculous insurmountable bonus rule. It's friggin' impossible and I was told more than once...cough-cough, customers do it all the time.

                                              Thanks for making Sammy's point - If you believed 'that ridiculous insurmountable bonus rule' was impossible then WHY did you deposit?


                                              Originally posted by Sam Odom

                                              But ABE... it was proven you did not read and/or understand the Bonus regulations
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                                              • gauchojake
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                                                • 09-17-10
                                                • 34117

                                                #24
                                                ABE when you log in to your sportsbook, try to make a wager, and someone calls your landline does the internet disconnect??? Do you hear a lot of beeps and bongs and screeches??? Is your AOL CD scratched??
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                                                • jjgold
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 07-20-05
                                                  • 388179

                                                  #25
                                                  Abe it comes down to this

                                                  If you do not take tons of bonuses you have no shot to win
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                                                  • ABEHONEST
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 06-27-09
                                                    • 9470

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by jjgold
                                                    Abe it comes down to this

                                                    If you do not take tons of bonuses you have no shot to win
                                                    I know what you mean. If you're good enough to cover the roll juice. But these gullible asses try to out guess you, believing they know more about what you're doing out there in "gouge the bettor territory?" They are nothing more than rookies and smart asses. Both.
                                                    Probably never hit a parlay in their life.
                                                    And when you take an unknown lady to your bed, do you remember how sexy and sweet she appeared? Same for those little catches "certain" Books use to--almost--assure themselves they've caught another big one in their net.
                                                    Naive gamblers, please shut your traps it makes you people look 100% ignorant. Oh, I am sure you'll stay away now.
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                                                    • ABEHONEST
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 06-27-09
                                                      • 9470

                                                      #27
                                                      Beware of Sammy's touting services

                                                      The one Sammy inticed me into joining--boy, they were great was the words and they pay, too. Pay?
                                                      You must first win to get paid.
                                                      Anyway, it "seems to me" this same Book of Sammy's is jacking their point-spread buying to outrageous heights?
                                                      It's like football playoff time and they want to charge you 35 cents per half point off of a 2 and 1/2 spread? So if want to grab that 1 point and make it 3 and 1/2, it will cost you an additional 70 cents on a dollar.
                                                      Now, let me ask some veterans, does this sound outrageous or not?

                                                      There is a small chance I could be wrong and that is why I need other opinions? None from Sammy, though.
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                                                      • grease lightnin
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 10-01-12
                                                        • 16015

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by ABEHONEST
                                                        The one Sammy inticed me into joining--boy, they were great was the words and they pay, too. Pay?
                                                        You must first win to get paid.
                                                        Anyway, it "seems to me" this same Book of Sammy's is jacking their point-spread buying to outrageous heights?
                                                        It's like football playoff time and they want to charge you 35 cents per half point off of a 2 and 1/2 spread? So if want to grab that 1 point and make it 3 and 1/2, it will cost you an additional 70 cents on a dollar.
                                                        Now, let me ask some veterans, does this sound outrageous or not?

                                                        There is a small chance I could be wrong and that is why I need other opinions? None from Sammy, though.

                                                        That’s steep, but there are other options if that’s your thing.

                                                        The top books all have their pluses and minuses. None are perfect, you have to find the right one(s) for you.
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                                                        • Sam Odom
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 10-30-05
                                                          • 58063

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by ABEHONEST


                                                          None from Sammy, though.




                                                          Happy Holidays , ABE
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