Lonzo Ball....ouch!

Chi_archie · 11-10-17, 02:19 AM

How bout his free throwing shooting?

surely he is doing better at that since no one is guarding him during them

VeggieDog · 11-10-17, 03:14 AM

Does he have the yips, or is he just not adjusting to NBA quality play yet?

DOM-Ganador · 11-10-17, 11:39 AM

C`mon fellas. With his mechanics, he is doomed for failure. It is like an unfolding lawn chair. Fugly.

But, and it is a BIG BUT. Does he have the balls to take a nice vacay after the season, hire the best shooting coach, and
reinvent his shot by taking his chosen profession seriously? Time will tell.

jjgold · 11-10-17, 11:41 AM

Good rebounder
Passer

Need to just drive

JIBBBY · 11-10-17, 11:41 AM

The kid throws up bricks.. Has a funky form to his shooting style..

jtoler · 11-10-17, 11:44 AM

Just a little pressing is all, if he couldnt shoot he wouldnt have shot 73% from 2 and 41% from 3 in college. Lakers play some stupid bball he isnt used to those animals and their freestyle basketball. Nothing wrong with form, its not where you start but where you finish the shot.

shadymcgrady · 11-10-17, 11:46 AM

Jason kidd had worse form but could impact and dominate any game without scoring a single point

Top 10 point guard of all time easy. Ball is no kidd that's for sure

jtoler · 11-10-17, 11:51 AM

Originally posted by shadymcgrady

Jason kidd had worse form but could impact and dominate any game without scoring a single point

Top 10 point guard of all time easy. Ball is no kidd that's for sure

Nope not after 11 games he's not as good as the great Jason Kidd, youre correct. By the way Kidd was shooting 35% after his first 11 games. Kidd would go on to win ROY.

DOM-Ganador · 11-10-17, 11:53 AM

Originally posted by shadymcgrady

Jason kidd had worse form but could impact and dominate any game without scoring a single point

Top 10 point guard of all time easy. Ball is no kidd that's for sure

Shades, you are a reasonable and logical poster. But, claiming anyone, anywhere, who laced them up in D1/NBA game had worse form than this kid is suspect. Takes a minute to release from the wrong side of his head. NBA defenders ain`t letting him get away with that nonsense.

shadymcgrady · 11-10-17, 11:53 AM

Originally posted by jtoler

Nope not after 11 games he's not as good as the great Jason Kidd, youre correct. By the way Kidd was shooting 35% after his first 11 games. Kidd would go on to win ROY.

Kidd stepped up in his first big moment at cal when he shocked duke and the world

Balls big moment had him getting punked in the sweet 16

Cuse0323 · 11-10-17, 11:55 AM

Don't see him being more than a Michael Carter-Williams type. Backup PG, who is tall, can pass, drive and rebound a bit. Both will never be great at shooting, or creating their own shot.

shadymcgrady · 11-10-17, 11:59 AM

Originally posted by DOM-Ganador

Shades, you are a reasonable and logical poster. But, claiming anyone, anywhere, who laced them up in D1/NBA game had worse form than this kid is suspect. Takes a minute to release from the wrong side of his head. NBA defenders ain`t letting him get away with that nonsense.

Dom, his form is comical yes but he's not being brought in over it as bad as it is.

You mentioned AAU as a critical means to the decaying quality of the nba today and you couldn't be more correct

Balls ability to see the court and actually make a pass bc of how pathetic the nba landscape is in terms of it is why he's a sought after commodity

I'm not talking about swinging the ball from perimeter to perimeter either, what's the percentage of bums in the league that can make a simple entry pass into the post? I'd venture to say less than 10%

You see it just about every 4th possession or so of every game. Fukkin pathetic, these idiots are either afraid or don't know how to make a simple entry pass and just hold it, turn it over or pass back to the top of the key. Unbelievable how mentally crippled AAU has made the players today

jtoler · 11-10-17, 12:01 PM

Originally posted by shadymcgrady

Kidd stepped up in his first big moment at cal when he shocked duke and the world

Balls big moment had him getting punked in the sweet 16

Ball's big moment was becoming the first player in over 20 years to shoot at least 70% from 2 and 40% from 3 and unanimous 1st team All-American all on a bum leg.

DOM-Ganador · 11-10-17, 12:09 PM

All this discussion is great. I like Ball. Would want him on my team.
Maybe Magic can take the kid under his wing and show him the path to improvement?
NO WAY he becomes a consistent scorer with out a major over haul.

Harry N. Lloyd · 11-10-17, 12:15 PM

I can't believe you guys don't have the good sense to jump off this sinking ship. He can dribble and pass. That's all. It's too late to learn a new shooting technique. It would be like teaching Michelson how to golf right handed. Barkley pointed it out best, he can only go one way. He's half a player. Uh, that's not gonna cut in the Pros. You bought into the hype and got burned. There will be no Rookie of the Year for Lonzo. He sucks!

jtoler · 11-10-17, 12:18 PM

Originally posted by Harry N. Lloyd

I can't believe you guys don't have the good sense to jump off this sinking ship. He can dribble and pass. That's all. It's too late to learn a new shooting technique. It would be like teaching Michelson how to golf right handed. Barkley pointed it out best, he can only go one way. He's half a player. Uh, that's not gonna cut in the Pros. You bought into the hype and got burned. There will be no Rookie of the Year for Lonzo. He sucks!

Which way is that one way? Left or right? Because he goes both quite a bit. What I notice when people criticize athletes a lot of the time its hopping on the mainstream bandwagon when the person criticizing either hasnt watched much or simply doesnt know what he's talking about. How does a person do something that hasnt been done in college in 24 years if they couldnt shoot?

MinnesotaFats · 11-10-17, 12:20 PM

Exactly why u can't give Walton grief. Team is .500 despite him!

shadymcgrady · 11-10-17, 12:28 PM

Originally posted by jtoler

Ball's big moment was becoming the first player in over 20 years to shoot at least 70% from 2 and 40% from 3 and unanimous 1st team All-American all on a bum leg.

You sound like the generic 'excuse guy' at work

Harry N. Lloyd · 11-10-17, 12:40 PM

Originally posted by jtoler

Which way is that one way? Left or right? Because he goes both quite a bit. What I notice when people criticize athletes a lot of the time its hopping on the mainstream bandwagon when the person criticizing either hasnt watched much or simply doesnt know what he's talking about. How does a person do something that hasnt been done in college in 24 years if they couldnt shoot?

What are you even talking about? He wasn't exactly Pete Maravich in college. Lonzo averaged 14 ppg. He shot 55% from the field and 66% from the stripe. He is fast, so of course in college he got a ton of lay-ups. Not so simple to get easy lay-ups in the pros. He shoots across his body! Anyone with a brain knows that is a BAD technique. He's on a record-setting pace of futility. Why pretend?

jtoler · 11-10-17, 12:40 PM

Originally posted by shadymcgrady

You sound like the generic 'excuse guy' at work

No excuses, but Ive seen posters here who trash players after theyve recorded triple doubles in the playoffs when they lose the game as if that one person is supposed to carry 100% of the load. Only 10% of the regular season has been played give it time. He was drafted because he's a 6'6 pg who has a pass first mentality and can make plays, and on top of that he CAN shoot. Why not focus on the 6 boards and 7 assists, he's still averaging 9 pts also. Itll get better man, Rome wasnt built in a day.

jtoler · 11-10-17, 12:43 PM

Originally posted by Harry N. Lloyd

What are you even talking about? He wasn't exactly Pete Maravich in college. Lonzo averaged 14 ppg. He shot 55% from the field and 66% from the stripe. He is fast, so of course in college he got a ton of lay-ups. Not so simple to get easy lay-ups in the pros. He shoots across his body! Anyone with a brain knows that is a BAD technique. He's on a record-setting pace of futility. Why pretend?

Too much comparison of players that is a problem I think, but many here think he's slow Harry so you may have some disagreers on that end. Its about follow through Harry, no his shot isnt aesthetically pleasing, it isnt, but he gets it off, when's the last time you saw it blocked? Im not pretending Harry.

shadymcgrady · 11-10-17, 12:44 PM

He's got talent and a good vision, he could be good one day

The key is unlocking that potential before the window closes

He seems like a late bloomer along with josh Jackson

The problem with players like that is they may never develop or to little to late

jtoler · 11-10-17, 12:48 PM

I agree on unlocking potential before NBA window closes, being drafted so early buys a player time though. The media wears at that time though if a player is struggling like with Anthony Bennett.

RudyRuetigger · 11-10-17, 12:55 PM

very weird you guys get involved in this type of thread

we are gamblers

who fukkin cares

ok????

tony_come · 11-10-17, 12:55 PM

The NBA is garbage

Harry N. Lloyd · 11-10-17, 01:23 PM

Originally posted by RudyRuetigger

very weird you guys get involved in this type of thread

we are gamblers

who fukkin cares

ok????

Since when are gamblers not concerned with the players on teams? I bet against the Lakers the last 2 nights because I knew neither the Celts or the Wiz wanted to be shown up by Lonzo. And they weren't.

JIBBBY · 11-10-17, 01:30 PM

Originally posted by RudyRuetigger

very weird you guys get involved in this type of thread

we are gamblers

who fukkin cares

ok????

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