Wisconsin is much better without Bret Bielama

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  • seaborneq
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    • 09-08-06
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    #1
    Wisconsin is much better without Bret Bielama
    He's not doing shit at Arkansas. Arkansas is worst with him and Wisconsin is better without him. Just an observation.
  • firedawg
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    • 10-08-08
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    #2
    I can’t believe how bad the razor backs are
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    • milwaukee mike
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      #3
      wisconsin isn't better without him

      only reason wisconsin keeps making the big 10 championship is that they play on the weak side of the conference... opposite side of ohio st/michigan/michigan st/penn st

      if bielema was still at wisconsin they would be at least as good, he was a great recruiter... not the same chance of success at arkansas

      keep in mind wisconsin has 5 million people and only ONE DIVISION 1 FOOTBALL TEAM AND NO DIVISION 2 FOOTBALL TEAMS

      talk about easy recruiting, wisconsin is the only team in the state that can give scholarships
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      • Cuse0323
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        #4
        Their schedule is a complete joke. The players probably could have coached themselves to be unbeaten.
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        • Razorbacks1
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          #5
          Come on guys. That win Saturday against that powerhouse Coastal Carolina was HUGE. Sarcasm aside this is his 5th year and these are his players. Obviously can't judge talent because we have none. Was fun for awhile, but old Brett has to go.
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          • 19th Hole
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            • 03-22-09
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            #6
            Bielama judges talent by how well their mother can cook.

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            • seaborneq
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              • 09-08-06
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              #7
              Bielema left Wisconsin because he kept losing coaches because the school wouldn't pay them, Arkansas is the only big boy school in it's state too, and he has a big recruiting budget at Arkansas and the only thing he is losing is games. Wisconsin is much better since bielema left. The schedule didn't get worse after he left and the conference didn't realign either. They beat LSU in the first game last year so the talent is better than when Beilema was there because they couldn't winn bowl games or out conference big games.
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              • jtoler
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                • 12-17-13
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                #8
                Nope Wisky hasnt played a soul this year and next week Iowa will probably be so drunk off of beating OSU that they will prob get toyed with.
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                • seaborneq
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                  • 09-08-06
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by jtoler
                  Nope Wisky hasnt played a soul this year and next week Iowa will probably be so drunk off of beating OSU that they will prob get toyed with.
                  The scheduling hasn't gotten easier since Beilema left, it's probably tougher scheduling since he left and with better results
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                  • milwaukee mike
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                    • 08-22-07
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by seaborneq
                    Bielema left Wisconsin because he kept losing coaches because the school wouldn't pay them, Arkansas is the only big boy school in it's state too, and he has a big recruiting budget at Arkansas and the only thing he is losing is games. Wisconsin is much better since bielema left. The schedule didn't get worse after he left and the conference didn't realign either. They beat LSU in the first game last year so the talent is better than when Beilema was there because they couldn't winn bowl games or out conference big games.
                    wtf are you talking about?

                    big 10 realigned in 2014 when rutgers and maryland came in

                    when bielema left wisconsin was in the same divsion as ohio state and penn state
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                    • milwaukee mike
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                      #11
                      wisconsin strength of schedule bielema's last year 2011 was 12th/120 teams

                      wisconsin strength of schedule this year is 58th/130 teams

                      i would say that's a schedule that got a lot easier!

                      NCAA College Football Strength of Schedule Rankings & Ratings from TeamRankings.com, your source for NCAAF computer power rankings.
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                      • MinnesotaFats
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                        • 12-18-10
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                        #12
                        I don't know who's better or worse but Bielama and Weinstein look like father/ son.

                        Ark would still win Big 10.

                        Ark would be favored over Wisky
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                        • milwaukee mike
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by MinnesotaFats
                          I don't know who's better or worse but Bielama and Weinstein look like father/ son.

                          Ark would still win Big 10.

                          Ark would be favored over Wisky
                          um no

                          wisconsin would be favored by 24 on a neutral site... predictor ratings are roughly what point spreads are based on

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                          • badgerguy
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                            #14
                            SOS this year doesn't help that Washington cok blocked Wisconsin and backed out of their contract.

                            How soon people forget recently playing Alabama and LSU. Last year playing 5 top 25 teams going 11-3.
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                            • MinnesotaFats
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                              • 12-18-10
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by milwaukee mike
                              um no

                              wisconsin would be favored by 24 on a neutral site... predictor ratings are roughly what point spreads are based on

                              http://sagarin.com/sports/cfsend.htm
                              LOL has Wisconsin played any team this year that's even ranked? NO

                              ARK has losses, yes, but all versus ranked teams. And it only gets harder now w LSU.

                              Who'd you rather play this week, LSU or IOWA?

                              WISKY beats up on Maryland in conference, ARK has to battle Ole Miss on a "gimmie" week.

                              ARK doing just fine, conference is unwinnable without a Heisman qb or rb to be the X factor versus Bama...

                              ...meanwhile Big10 can't even put a decent contender out there. OSU PSU MICH MICH ST all toast, NEB and IOWA I don't know why their programs are dead, Indiana still sums despite hype, Illionois tried GEORGE JR that failed, the Gophers fired the best coach they've had since Mason, Rutgers Maryland and Northwestern get their hand full of upsets but are dogs in every game.

                              ARK would win the Big10
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                              • milwaukee mike
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                                • 08-22-07
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                                #16
                                arkansas hasn't even come within 20 points of any of the decent teams they've played yet they would win the big 10

                                i agree their schedule is a lot tougher than wisconsin's but there's no point in being totally ridiculous
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                                • MinnesotaFats
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                                  • 12-18-10
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by milwaukee mike
                                  arkansas hasn't even come within 20 points of any of the decent teams they've played yet they would win the big 10

                                  i agree their schedule is a lot tougher than wisconsin's but there's no point in being totally ridiculous
                                  It's not ridiculous it's what happens when your season is over 1 month in.

                                  Look at the OSU and PSU letdown this past week.

                                  ARK got buried by mid Sept, kids looking to 18.

                                  They'll get buried this week too, thou LSU -18 seems insane.
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                                  • milwaukee mike
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                                    • 08-22-07
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                                    #18
                                    i hear you minnesota

                                    when iowa or michigan state wins a game, it's just luck or a let down

                                    when an sec team wins a game by a point over coastal carolina (or even loses a game by 30 points) they are still super awesome

                                    arkansas would probably beat wisconsin by 50 points in madison, shit i'd be surprised if wisconsin even gained a yard in the game
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                                    • MinnesotaFats
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                                      #19
                                      Oh come on who's being ridiculous now.

                                      I'm not saying he shouldn't have beaten CC by 2 scores but ARK did outgain them by 200 yards, put 560 yards thenselves, had the only turnover despite knocking the CC qb out.

                                      The BIG10 won't even have a playoff team this year, you can make a case for 3 SEC teams.

                                      Iowa just beat OSU by 30 points, OSU beat PSU, Northwestern beat Iowa..... thats all you need to know about the BIG10. The teams aren't any good, they are legacy schools who use 100 years of success, from an era when southern schools refused to integrate, to pile up prestige and bowl contracts and then expand to the east coast for TV purposes.

                                      They are not a power conference anymore. ACC PAC12 SEC outclass them, overall, in every sport. BIG10, BIG12 should just merge, maybe out of those 25 teams one could slip into the conversation for final 4 in football.
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                                      • BigdaddyQH
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                                        • 07-13-09
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                                        #20
                                        Now can you Arky homers possibly defend Bielema? How utterly stupid can you be? His teams have never lost less than 5 games. He has no idea of how to recruit in the SEC. His arse is gone after this season. His Conference record is a horrid 11-26. He has not idea what a defense is. The guys in here who think that Arkansas would win the Big 10 this year should be committed to the home of happy. You guys are one Taco short of a #7 Combination plate.
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                                        • Mr. Peepers
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                                          • 09-22-09
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                                          #21
                                          I would argue BYU and Utah State have gotten worse. People bash on WI for their lack of tough opponents this year. When non conference schedule was created 5 years ago BYU was a top 15 program and Utah State was a top 25. No way to predict those programs would suck so bad now...10 years ago WI used to play some real crap programs in Woffard, Fresno State to name a few. Conference schedule is always a toss up. Nebraska and Michigan were supposed to be a challenge this yr but flaked out. WI doesn't get enough credit for being one of the best academic AND athletic schools in the country.
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                                          • milwaukee mike
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Mr. Peepers
                                            I would argue BYU and Utah State have gotten worse. People bash on WI for their lack of tough opponents this year. When non conference schedule was created 5 years ago BYU was a top 15 program and Utah State was a top 25. No way to predict those programs would suck so bad now...10 years ago WI used to play some real crap programs in Woffard, Fresno State to name a few. Conference schedule is always a toss up. Nebraska and Michigan were supposed to be a challenge this yr but flaked out. WI doesn't get enough credit for being one of the best academic AND athletic schools in the country.
                                            conference schedule was tougher before realignment though, hard to argue with that

                                            last year of bielema, wisconsin played 6 ranked teams in addition to AT OHIO ST including... oregon, michigan state twice, penn state

                                            that's 7 games that are EACH tougher than any single game on this year's schedule
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                                            • badgerguy
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                                              #23
                                              Just win baby!
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                                              • bonzaii
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                                                #24
                                                Wisconsin is no better or worse without Bielema. There right around where they would be if he was still coaching. Shit even Gary Andersen had two solid years at Wisconsin in 2013 and 2014. Wisconsin has been a good football program for the last 10-15 years
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                                                • milwaukee mike
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by bonzaii
                                                  Wisconsin is no better or worse without Bielema. There right around where they would be if he was still coaching. Shit even Gary Andersen had two solid years at Wisconsin in 2013 and 2014. Wisconsin has been a good football program for the last 10-15 years
                                                  solid football AND basketball program over that length of time

                                                  made the last 4 sweet 16s
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                                                  • Wheatgrass
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                                                    • 07-05-17
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                                                    #26
                                                    arkansas doesnt have the speed in high school like alabama, florida or mississippi

                                                    in fact its a pretty white state. he was never going to do much
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                                                    • milwaukee mike
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Wheatgrass
                                                      arkansas doesnt have the speed in high school like alabama, florida or mississippi

                                                      in fact its a pretty white state. he was never going to do much
                                                      good point

                                                      wisconsin there is a bigger pool of fat whites to choose from on the offensive line
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                                                      • RockBottom
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by milwaukee mike
                                                        wisconsin isn't better without him

                                                        only reason wisconsin keeps making the big 10 championship is that they play on the weak side of the conference... opposite side of ohio st/michigan/michigan st/penn st

                                                        if bielema was still at wisconsin they would be at least as good, he was a great recruiter... not the same chance of success at arkansas

                                                        keep in mind wisconsin has 5 million people and only ONE DIVISION 1 FOOTBALL TEAM AND NO DIVISION 2 FOOTBALL TEAMS

                                                        talk about easy recruiting, wisconsin is the only team in the state that can give scholarships
                                                        And they recruit the Chicago area better than any other school outside of ND.
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                                                        • Cuse0323
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by milwaukee mike
                                                          good point

                                                          wisconsin there is a bigger pool of fat whites to choose from on the offensive line
                                                          Then they seem to always have a good RB to go along with the OLine. Usually speedy, minus Dayne though he wasn't terribly slow in college. Always remember Michael Bennett dominating with his speed. Now he gets to dominate the prison yard. Wisconsin recruits weirdly well forever now. Barry was/is the man. Always loved Big Ten noon games for whatever reason.
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                                                          • RockBottom
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Cuse0323
                                                            Then they seem to always have a good RB to go along with the OLine. Usually speedy, minus Dayne though he wasn't terribly slow in college. Always remember Michael Bennett dominating with his speed. Now he gets to dominate the prison yard. Wisconsin recruits weirdly well forever now. Barry was/is the man. Always loved Big Ten noon games for whatever reason.
                                                            Alvarez was The Guy for getting Lou Holtz talent from Chicago. When he went to Wisconsin, he had established contacts.
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                                                            • Wheatgrass
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                                                              #31
                                                              Holy crap that M.Bennett guy went to prison

                                                              he was huge and ran a 10.1 100 meters. bo jackson like talent

                                                              what a dummy
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                                                              • milwaukee mike
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                                                                #32
                                                                not only bennett but former running back brent moss is also in prison

                                                                and that other wisconsin running back that got busted for stealing an xbox
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                                                                • Wheatgrass
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  i remember watching a wisconsin game and bennett had a long run he looked fast even on tv

                                                                  reading his bio he spent about 8 seasons bouncing around the nfl should have made a few million no reason to be in prison
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                                                                  • PaperTrail07
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Good LORD ....complete opposite of Ohio....OHIO STATE, BOWLING GREEN, KENT ST, CINCINNATI, MIAMI OH, OHIO U, TOLEDO ROCKETS,
                                                                    Originally posted by milwaukee mike
                                                                    wisconsin isn't better without him

                                                                    only reason wisconsin keeps making the big 10 championship is that they play on the weak side of the conference... opposite side of ohio st/michigan/michigan st/penn st

                                                                    if bielema was still at wisconsin they would be at least as good, he was a great recruiter... not the same chance of success at arkansas

                                                                    keep in mind wisconsin has 5 million people and only ONE DIVISION 1 FOOTBALL TEAM AND NO DIVISION 2 FOOTBALL TEAMS

                                                                    talk about easy recruiting, wisconsin is the only team in the state that can give scholarships
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                                                                    • milwaukee mike
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      for sure papertrail

                                                                      the other beneficiary of no division 1/division 2 teams are the d3 schools in wisconsin

                                                                      since 2005, uw-whitewater has 2 baseball championships, 2 basketball championships, and 6 football championships
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