MGM Grand took a 500K bet...

**krk1030** · 10-23-17, 05:44 PM

Dodgers game 1. Astros game 2.

Easy

**RangeFinder** · 10-23-17, 05:52 PM

Originally posted by krk1030

Dodgers game 1. Astros game 2.

Easy

I don't know about easy. Anything can happen in one event. Remember that people play the game, not money. Well, sometimes, lol.

**MinnesotaFats** · 10-23-17, 06:32 PM

500k line manipulation to then fade Kershaw, arguably the GOAT?

Not happening. The other way around maybe, drop that -170 to -140 then drop $5mm or some ridiculous Billy Walters number on Clayton.

**CWD** · 10-23-17, 06:35 PM

when did kershaw get into the argument for GOAT

**unde0087** · 10-23-17, 06:42 PM

Originally posted by CWD

when did kershaw get into the argument for GOAT

apparently because he finally had a couple good games in the playoffs now he is the goat

**CWD** · 10-23-17, 06:55 PM

kershaw postseason 2017 - 17 inning pitched 7 earned runs

GOAT numbers

**vividjohn45** · 10-23-17, 07:16 PM

Originally posted by CWD

kershaw postseason 2017 - 17 inning pitched 7 earned runs

GOAT numbers

Verlanders are better. He has a shot at being 2017 the Goat.

**CWD** · 10-23-17, 07:25 PM

i was being sarcastic

are kershaws #s even the best on his team this postseason?

**MinnesotaFats** · 10-23-17, 07:40 PM

Kershaw had poor postseason luck early in career that's all behind him and seriously, if he's not in the argument for GOAT starting pitcher I'd like to hear the best 5 man rotation all time MLB.

R Johnson
R Clemens
C Kershaw
B Gibson
B Feller

**Shute** · 10-23-17, 08:04 PM

Shute was in town

**Shute** · 10-23-17, 08:16 PM

Was it FLOYD???

**stevenash** · 10-23-17, 08:31 PM

Originally posted by MinnesotaFats

Kershaw had poor postseason luck early in career that's all behind him and seriously, if he's not in the argument for GOAT starting pitcher I'd like to hear the best 5 man rotation all time MLB.

R Johnson
R Clemens
C Kershaw
B Gibson
B Feller

No love for Nolan Ryan?
Nobody is going to strikeout 5714 again.
Yeah, you can argue the 3 ERA doesn't stack up to the other all time greats, he did manage to get the walk problem under control the last half of his storied career and wound up with a pretty good 1.25 WH/IP
7 no hitters, holder of 53 different records. Come on, there'll never be another Nolan Ryan.

Ryan was big time, he was such a gamer, always wanted the ball, no fear, no situation or match up feared him.

I remember his last game.
It was in the Kingdome, 1993.
Ryan said he warmed up tight.
In the first inning of that game against the Mariners on 9/22/93 Ryan couldn't get an out.
He loaded the bases for Dann Howitt who hit a grand slam, the next batter was Dave Magadan, Ryan went to a 2-0 count, on ball two Ryan heard a pop in his elbow, he said it burnt like hell, Ryan said he knew he was never going to pitch again, he threw one last pitch, just to make sure to Magadan, it was a 82 MPH fastball, but that was it, he came off the mound with the lower half of his arm dangling. Rangers pitching coaches knew it, manager knew it.
The Mariner fans in the Kingdome knew it too.
As Ryan left the mound every fan, man, woman and child rose to their feet, gave Nolan Ryan a standing ovation that seemed to last forever.

His last pitch, at age 46, for all intents without an elbow that was blown out was 82 MPH.

**MinnesotaFats** · 10-23-17, 08:36 PM

Originally posted by stevenash

No love for Nolan Ryan?
Nobody is going to strikeout 5714 again.
Yeah, you can argue the 3 ERA doesn't stack up to the other all time greats, he did manage to get the walk problem under control the last half of his storied career and wound up with a pretty good 1.25 WH/IP
7 no hitters, holder of 53 different records. Come on, there'll never be another Nolan Ryan.

Ryan was big time, he was such a gamer, always wanted the ball, no fear, no situation or match up feared him.

I remember his last game.
It was in the Kingdome, 1993.
Ryan said he warmed up tight.
In the first inning of that game against the Mariners on 9/22/93 Ryan couldn't get an out.
He loaded the bases for Dann Howitt who hit a grand slam, the next batter was Dave Magadan, Ryan went to a 2-0 count, on ball two Ryan heard a pop in his elbow, he said it burnt like hell, Ryan said he knew he was never going to pitch again, he threw one last pitch, just to make sure to Magadan, it was a 82 MPH fastball, but that was it, he came off the mound with the lower half of his arm dangling. Rangers pitching coaches knew it, manager knew it.
The Mariner fans in the Kingdome knew it too.
As Ryan left the mound every fan, man, woman and child rose to their feet, gave Nolan Ryan a standing ovation that seemed to last forever.

His last pitch, at age 46, for all intents without an elbow that was blown out was 82 MPH.

I love the Ryan Express, I do, but that .500 record, no Cy Youngs, only 1 or 2 20 win seasons...I compare home to Blyleven, Morris and Kaat. Id take any of them for 1 game but if I'm going to build a rotation.....

I even left Maddox of my list and he won 350 games!

**stevenash** · 10-23-17, 09:07 PM

Originally posted by MinnesotaFats

I love the Ryan Express, I do, but that .500 record, no Cy Youngs, only 1 or 2 20 win seasons...I compare home to Blyleven, Morris and Kaat. Id take any of them for 1 game but if I'm going to build a rotation.....

I even left Maddox of my list and he won 350 games!

The best pitchers after the '1968 year of the pitcher' (1969 MLB had to raise the mound) were:
(in no particular order)
Maddux
Ryan
Randy Johnson
Pedro Martinez
Tom Seaver
Gotta throw Jim Palmer in there too.

Most underrated pitcher of all time?
Mike Mussina, punch up his career numbers, you'll say "wow"

Can you imagine if Steve Carlton didn't pitch for shitty teams?
In 1972 he won 27 games for a Phillies team that won 59 games all season.
Chew on that, he won almost 1/2 their games by himself.

You want to see something incredible.
Look at this, then look at it again.

Look at the IP column.
Pitch count? I don't need no stinking pitch count.

Steve Carlton 1972 Pitching Game Logs | Baseball-Reference.com

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/gl.fcgi?id=carltst01&t=p&year=1972

Steve Carlton Every game played with complete stats, links to box scores and automated row summing for 1972

**RudyRuetigger** · 10-23-17, 09:09 PM

Originally posted by RangeFinder

On Game 1 of the World Series on L.A Dodgers and Kershaw.

Just letting you all know. Keep and eye out because this could be line manipulation

what the hell are you trying to say

all books will adjust their lines because you think mgm is exposed?

**stevenash** · 10-23-17, 09:21 PM

Originally posted by RudyRuetigger

what the hell are you trying to say

all books will adjust their lines because you think mgm is exposed?

And I'm positive if MGM loses that bet they'll never feel it.
If they do feel it, it'll be for a second.

**jjgold** · 10-23-17, 09:44 PM

They can care less about $500,000

**Louisvillekid1** · 10-23-17, 09:44 PM

Mgm about to give a billion when it’s said and done after law suits

not sure my take

**krk1030** · 10-24-17, 01:28 AM

Originally posted by MinnesotaFats

Kershaw had poor postseason luck early in career that's all behind him and seriously, if he's not in the argument for GOAT starting pitcher I'd like to hear the best 5 man rotation all time MLB.

R Johnson
R Clemens
C Kershaw
B Gibson
B Feller

pedro?

**unluckysob** · 10-24-17, 02:16 AM

Is that $500,000 to win about $240,000???

**pilebuck13** · 10-24-17, 02:27 AM

Kershaw either rises or shits the bed. Going to be a insane group of highly respected people watching including cofax I wonder if they will let vin call a game?

**RangeFinder** · 10-24-17, 06:36 PM

Originally posted by RudyRuetigger

what the hell are you trying to say

all books will adjust their lines because you think mgm is exposed?

No not at all

What I am saying is watch for movement after a big bet like this