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  • DegenKing
    SBR Rookie
    • 07-31-17
    • 45

    #36
    Originally posted by thomorino
    A lot can happen between now and December but Cleveland won't do anything Lebron doesn't want them to do if they have a choice and Lebron clearly doesn't want to trade Irving right now.
    But Cleveland has to realize at some point if LeBron is likely or even possible to leave next summer, they need to make moves to not leave themselves in the pit of the NBA for years to come. That's part of why Kyrie wants out NOW, so that if he has a insight that LeBron is gone, he can get out ahead of it. If LeBron leaves next summer, Cleveland can't possible trade Kyrie too and keep any fan support.
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    • thomorino
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      • 06-01-17
      • 45842

      #37
      Originally posted by DegenKing
      But Cleveland has to realize at some point if LeBron is likely or even possible to leave next summer, they need to make moves to not leave themselves in the pit of the NBA for years to come. That's part of why Kyrie wants out NOW, so that if he has a insight that LeBron is gone, he can get out ahead of it. If LeBron leaves next summer, Cleveland can't possible trade Kyrie too and keep any fan support.
      Come on. where is Lebron going to go - the West and get his ass kicked every year by Golden State without even getting to the finals and hearing all the morons talks about how getting to the finals 30 straight times means he's the greatest. He's not going anywhere in the East, there is not an eastern conference team good enough to beat Golden State even with Lebron - the only teams that could beat GOlden State with Lebron are San Antonio and Houston, and Lebron always takes the easy path, he's not going to the western conference.
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      • jjgold
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 07-20-05
        • 388179

        #38
        nobody wants him

        I was right like usual
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        • homie1975
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          • 12-24-13
          • 15452

          #39
          Originally posted by jjgold
          nobody wants him

          I was right like usual
          Coach i think Cavs are getting lowball offers which is why a trade has not occurred yet.
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          • jjgold
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 07-20-05
            • 388179

            #40
            No team is giving up a top player for him because they know Irving is not going to change their team
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            • homie1975
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              • 12-24-13
              • 15452

              #41
              how are we looking for a Kyrie trade. cavs want the world in return, that'll be tough to get
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              • jjgold
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 07-20-05
                • 388179

                #42
                What Cleveland's finding out is nobody's giving up a star player for Kyrie
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                • mngambler
                  SBR MVP
                  • 08-01-11
                  • 2890

                  #43
                  Originally posted by jjgold
                  What Cleveland's finding out is nobody's giving up a star player for Kyrie
                  there's just nowhere that makes sense, I'm a casual T-Wolves fan and I am honestly happy they aren't moving Wig. for him
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                  • homie1975
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 12-24-13
                    • 15452

                    #44
                    My buddy is so sure that irving will be traded but my buddy not a sports bettor so he wants to bet a steak dinner up to $200. If kyrie is still a cav on opening night in october then i'll win the wager.

                    What would you do? I am very tempted to take the wager because i believe it's better than 50-50 that kyrie will be a cav on opening night.
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                    • jjgold
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 07-20-05
                      • 388179

                      #45
                      I would do the bet he's not getting traded nobody wants him unless they give up journeyman players and second line players

                      Like I said no one giving up a star for a little point guard that's one dimensional
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                      • homie1975
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 12-24-13
                        • 15452

                        #46
                        It appears if he's traded the most likely landing spot is phoenix
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                        • Mr KLC
                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                          • 12-19-07
                          • 31097

                          #47
                          Kevin Durant knows something about star teammates not always getting along.

                          So, the Warriors forward is not freaking out about the disconnect between Kyrie Irving and LeBron James and Irving’s subsequent trade request.

                          Durant, via Chris Haynes of ESPN:

                          “It’s just a regular NBA problem, right? A lot of teams have gone through this before,” Durant told ESPN. “They’ll figure it out. That’s a great organization, a championship organization. They’ll figure it out.”

                          “It’s not the end of the world,” Durant said. “Both of those guys won a championship together. They love each other. If Kyrie wants to do something else, that’s on him. I’m sure whatever happens, it’ll work out for the best for both of them. But it’s just a normal NBA problem. It’s just two big stars that it’s happening to.”
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                          • funnyb25
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                            • 07-09-09
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                            #48
                            Organization is a mess
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                            • jjgold
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                              • 07-20-05
                              • 388179

                              #49
                              Poor Kyrie

                              He thought everything was going to want him and was going to give up their whole team
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                              • Auto Donk
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 09-03-13
                                • 43558

                                #50
                                I keep waiting for Kyrie to hook up with Kylie......

                                I would not blame him one bit.....




                                I would not post anything critical of anybody hittin' that.....
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                                • homie1975
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 12-24-13
                                  • 15452

                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by Auto Donk
                                  I keep waiting for Kyrie to hook up with Kylie......

                                  I would not blame him one bit.....




                                  I would not post anything critical of anybody hittin' that.....
                                  kendall got the modeling contract buy kylie is the one that is sexy as phukk imo
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                                  • jjgold
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                                    • 07-20-05
                                    • 388179

                                    #52
                                    Like I said nobody wants him I will keep repeating it well teams want him but they only want to give up journeyman and second grade players
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                                    • Auto Donk
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 09-03-13
                                      • 43558

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by homie1975
                                      kendall got the modeling contract buy kylie is the one that is sexy as phukk imo
                                      and i know, just from lookin' into her eyes, she's got the "whore game" to match that sexiness......
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                                      • homie1975
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                                        • 12-24-13
                                        • 15452

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by jjgold
                                        Like I said nobody wants him I will keep repeating it well teams want him but they only want to give up journeyman and second grade players
                                        Yes he's wanted but teams know cavs have no leverage so they're offering jack shittt for him
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                                        • thomorino
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                                          • 06-01-17
                                          • 45842

                                          #55
                                          The Cavs have leverage, he has 2 years left on his deal and his deal is very favorable given the rise in the salary cap, the problem is the teams he wants to go to have nothing to offer Cleveland.
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                                          • homie1975
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 12-24-13
                                            • 15452

                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by thomorino
                                            The Cavs have leverage, he has 2 years left on his deal and his deal is very favorable given the rise in the salary cap, the problem is the teams he wants to go to have nothing to offer Cleveland.
                                            they have leverage in terms of not having to trade him but they have no leverage in terms of getting equal or better value for him. if they had that leverage he would have been traded by now.
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                                            • thomorino
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                                              • 06-01-17
                                              • 45842

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by homie1975
                                              they have leverage in terms of not having to trade him but they have no leverage in terms of getting equal or better value for him. if they had that leverage he would have been traded by now.
                                              Well depends what you mean by equal value, getting Kyrie Irving for 2 years at 20 mil per when some guys are like Wall are getting 35 million a year plus gives the Cavs a lot of leverage, the reason he hasn't been traded is Lebron doesn't want him dealt and the teams Kyrie wants to go to have nothing to offer. Kyrie's value is hard to determine since he was horrible as the #1 option before Lebron got there.
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                                              • pokerdevil
                                                SBR Sharp
                                                • 04-20-16
                                                • 433

                                                #58
                                                FYI you can still get +160 on Kyrie starting the year in CLE at BOL & Sportsbetting (same ownership)

                                                A lot of talk that he might get traded in December or January once freshly-signed free agents are eligible to be traded. So you still win if he plays even 1 minute for the Cavs
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                                                • homie1975
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                                                  • 12-24-13
                                                  • 15452

                                                  #59
                                                  Traded to celtics lmfao
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                                                  • d2bets
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                                                    • 08-10-05
                                                    • 39995

                                                    #60
                                                    This was the most obvious thing ever. How could anyone have thought he wouldn't be traded.
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                                                    • lakerboy
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 04-02-09
                                                      • 94379

                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by homie1975
                                                      they have leverage in terms of not having to trade him but they have no leverage in terms of getting equal or better value for him. if they had that leverage he would have been traded by now.
                                                      So how did the trade go in terms of who won?
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                                                      • GoBlue77
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 03-20-11
                                                        • 9166

                                                        #62
                                                        homie the clown at it per usual lol
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                                                        • thomorino
                                                          Restricted User
                                                          • 06-01-17
                                                          • 45842

                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by lakerboy
                                                          So how did the trade go in terms of who won?
                                                          Its a win for Cleveland, what is Boston going to win with a shoot first point guard and no frontline. Cleveland now can convince Lebron to stay after this year because Thomas only has 1 year left on his deal and the Nets pick could be traded for a top player. Love's contract isn't horrible either with the salary cap going up, so Cleveland can clean house after this year. Cleveland wasn't going to win anything with Love and Irving's defense.
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                                                          • homie1975
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                                                            • 12-24-13
                                                            • 15452

                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by lakerboy
                                                            So how did the trade go in terms of who won?

                                                            Cavs got over big time
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