Don't put your money on Manchester United to win vs Ajax in tonight's EL-Final

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  • Blackballer
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    #1
    Don't put your money on Manchester United to win vs Ajax in tonight's EL-Final
    Better look for the goals market or both teams to score but NOT Manchester on the 3-way line.
    I go with Ajax to lift the trophy and a small bet for a straight Ajax win.
    The odds for Ajax declined though on (for example on BET365 from 4.75 to 4.33 ).

    In case you really like ManU ask yourself: is it really worth backing them tonight? Think carefully.

    Best of luck to everyone.
  • lakerboy
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    #2
    Mourinho great in one offs
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    • Blackballer
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      #3
      Originally posted by lakerboy
      Mourinho great in one offs

      Mourinho is great but he is not playing the game the players do. Even if ManU palys with their best available squad tonight, I still think Ajax has some hidden talent that will shine tonight. Just look at his comments he made during the press conference before the EL-Final about Ajax and teams coming from the Champions League stage to play in the Europa League:

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      • Midoohadi
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        • 02-25-17
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        #4
        anything mourinho says should be taken with a pinch of salt, sadly mourinho is a serial winner and even though i really want to bet on ajax and hope they win it, i just cant see it..ffs sake mourinho said that his team would most def. loose vs Boro a month ago, they won easily..He loves mind games..
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        • jjgold
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          • 07-20-05
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          #5
          under might be the hidden gem
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          • BigBlueNYG
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            • 10-12-11
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            #6
            The under looks too easy
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            • juicername
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              #7
              Man U will win. This game is bigger than the Champions League final.
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              • NYRin09
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                • 10-12-09
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                #8
                Originally posted by juicername
                Man U will win. This game is bigger than the Champions League final.
                Lol what
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                • steven12
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                  • 02-23-17
                  • 185

                  #9
                  Originally posted by jjgold
                  under might be the hidden gem
                  Why don`t we think about money line Draw ?
                  I think that hidden gem is Draw
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                  • lakerboy
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                    • 04-02-09
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by juicername
                    Man U will win. This game is bigger than the Champions League final.
                    Huh?
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                    • lom bylyri
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                      • 04-24-17
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                      #11
                      Man. U - Ajax no goal first 10 minutes at -535 !!!
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                      • juicername
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                        #12
                        Man Utd a bigger club than both Juventus and Real Madrid combined. The Champions League final is for just a trophy. This game for so much more. A United win and they'll get into CL for next season and Griezmann all but guaranteed to join them.
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                        • lom bylyri
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                          • 04-24-17
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                          #13
                          This game has 1-0 written all over it. Mou knows that Ajax, though young and relatively inexperienced, can score in bunches. So get ready for one of them "mini van parking" game Mourinho style. The " chosen one " has no shame and he'will be happy to take it to penalty kicks. Can't figure out who wins but I think will be a low scoring finale.
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                          • jjgold
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                            • 07-20-05
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                            #14
                            Pound under
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                            • lom bylyri
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by juicername
                              Man Utd a bigger club than both Juventus and Real Madrid combined. The Champions League final is for just a trophy. This game for so much more. A United win and they'll get into CL for next season and Griezmann all but guaranteed to join them.
                              With all due respect both of your statements are debatable to say the least. Since sir Alex left, Man U hasn't been the " bigger " club in EPL let alone Europe. Plus, comparing the importance of CL with EL is way too unfair. There are teams that are happy to avoid the grind of Europa League all together. As far as this year drama, Griezmann joining Man U is small potatoes to the story of the legend of Gigi Buffon's last chance to win his CL trophy.
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                              • bozeman
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by Blackballer
                                Mourinho is great but he is not playing the game the players do. Even if ManU palys with their best available squad tonight, I still think Ajax has some hidden talent that will shine tonight. Just look at his comments he made during the press conference before the EL-Final about Ajax and teams coming from the Champions League stage to play in the Europa League:

                                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9SZdnxZUOA
                                a hidden talent, ha? U r trying to discourage everyone, meanwhile u have zero arguments for ajax but some "hidden" talent.
                                Bro manchester is a world class team and they need this cup otherwise they lose additional 80 mln from sponsors for failure to make into the champions league next year.
                                UEFA would rather see manchester in the champs league next year too. even refs will favour manchester.
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                                • bozeman
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by BigBlueNYG
                                  The under looks too easy
                                  would have been easy if it were 3.5

                                  now 2.5 at -175 has no value - taking under 2 goals? seriously in soccer its not the safest bet on the planet
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                                  • bozeman
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                                    #18
                                    anyways manchester will dope, injure the opponent, bribe a ref - show their best soccer even without all this to get past these boys from rotterdam
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                                    • shadymcgrady
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                                      • 02-27-12
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                                      #19
                                      Hah united not even the most popular team in Manchester at the moment let alone Liverpool and arsenal which have all overtaken it
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                                      • Blackballer
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by juicername
                                        Man Utd a bigger club than both Juventus and Real Madrid combined. The Champions League final is for just a trophy. This game for so much more. A United win and they'll get into CL for next season and Griezmann all but guaranteed to join them.

                                        Good points that you are stating. All the pressure is on ManU, they have to deliver and for odds at around 2.00 now I will not risk a penny with this ManU team. This 'must win' thing is totally bullshit, I watched Ajax games and ManU games this season, I rather take my chances with the young dynamic Ajax teams instead of wasting my money on ManU. ManU has to show me that they are worth the odds of 2.00, sorry I am not convinced especially when you consider the way Mourinho rested all his players (plus some are injured or suspended).

                                        Liverpool did the same the previous season by going all-in on the Europa League, at the end they failed. ManU could be the next English team, just think about it.
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                                        • Blackballer
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by bozeman
                                          a hidden talent, ha? U r trying to discourage everyone, meanwhile u have zero arguments for ajax but some "hidden" talent.
                                          Bro manchester is a world class team and they need this cup otherwise they lose additional 80 mln from sponsors for failure to make into the champions league next year.
                                          UEFA would rather see manchester in the champs league next year too. even refs will favour manchester.
                                          Dude I think you are not following soccer around Europe I guess. You don't even understand what I am saying when I referr to talent regarding Ajax. Anyway best of luck to you.
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                                          • shadymcgrady
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                                            • 02-27-12
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                                            #22
                                            Don't know much about Ajax, seems like it was all the cleaning rave in the 80s.

                                            I do know that if fellatio is in the starting lineup, man u chances decrease by at least 45%. Guy is a jinx and a sht player. He's worse than Peter crouch in every way and crouch was trash
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                                            • juicername
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Blackballer
                                              Good points that you are stating. All the pressure is on ManU, they have to deliver and for odds at around 2.00 now I will not risk a penny with this ManU team. This 'must win' thing is totally bullshit, I watched Ajax games and ManU games this season, I rather take my chances with the young dynamic Ajax teams instead of wasting my money on ManU. ManU has to show me that they are worth the odds of 2.00, sorry I am not convinced especially when you consider the way Mourinho rested all his players (plus some are injured or suspended).

                                              Liverpool did the same the previous season by going all-in on the Europa League, at the end they failed. ManU could be the next English team, just think about it.
                                              Honestly, I'm not even betting this game. Too biased.
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                                              • HockeyRocks
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                                                #24
                                                ajax...+0.5....1u
                                                btts..............1u


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                                                • pistolpeat
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                                                  #25
                                                  2u over 2.5
                                                  .75u ajax ML


                                                  Enjoy the show
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                                                  • cashin81
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                                                    • 09-10-14
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                                                    #26
                                                    Id say btts.
                                                    1-1 in 90 mins.
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                                                    • bozeman
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Blackballer
                                                      Dude I think you are not following soccer around Europe I guess. You don't even understand what I am saying when I referr to talent regarding Ajax. Anyway best of luck to you.
                                                      u r right i am not following it closely. but i ve observed quite a few teenager teams in european playoffs since 1997 when i started watching CL and uefa cup talented and many of the players were later stars sold to elite clubs. and one observation i have is they do get stopped by a classier team at some point usually around semifinal

                                                      i remember dynamo kyiv full of young talents in 1997/98 reaching quarterfinals and semis of champions league with a whole team of future stars including a golden shoe shevchenko. they were stopped by juventus by intentional injury of a capitan and next year munich bayern somehow scored 3 goals in 15 minutes to take a cl final from dynamo.

                                                      basel and fenerbAHCE THAT GOT DEStroyed in semis of 12/13 - young dnipro didnt survive the final against sevilla a few years later.

                                                      I am a bit upset and suprised how people are almost certain of manchester failure, despite such tendency of young teams yielding to class in final stages of these soccer tournaments thats all

                                                      peace
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                                                      • dreamlanding
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                                                        • 02-22-11
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                                                        #28
                                                        Just don't see how Ajax win this outright.

                                                        Seeing Man U by 1-0, 2-0, or 2-1. Mourinho doesn't lose one-off games like this to young, inexperienced teams no matter how exciting they are. A fleet of buses will be parked for a while and United will grab a counter. Just the way these things go.

                                                        0-0 or 1-1 @ full time wouldn't be shocking to me, but I think the value is on Man U FT +100 or so as I think that's the result 60-70% of the time in this scenario.
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                                                        • juicername
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                                                          #29
                                                          Fantastic goal! All over now.
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                                                          • dreamlanding
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                                                            #30
                                                            Reminds me of lovable Monaco running into the Juve wall. There's a reason it's so rare for these hot young upstart teams to beat a megapower in a big game.
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                                                            • lakerboy
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                                                              #31
                                                              Congrats utd . Going to champions league will ensure utd do nothing in epl again.
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                                                              • Midoohadi
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                                                                • 02-25-17
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by dreamlanding
                                                                Reminds me of lovable Monaco running into the Juve wall. There's a reason it's so rare for these hot young upstart teams to beat a megapower in a big game.
                                                                They say you don't win trophies with kids I was all over Monaco vs Dortmund in both legs but stayed away vs Juventus because of Juve's experience!!
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                                                                • bozeman
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  i hope all ajax miracle believers have learnt their lesson
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                                                                  • juicername
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by lakerboy
                                                                    Congrats utd . Going to champions league will ensure utd do nothing in epl again.
                                                                    CL much kinder to PL teams than EL with Tue/Wed games instead of the nasty Thursday games though.
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                                                                    • bozeman
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Midoohadi
                                                                      They say you don't win trophies with kids I was all over Monaco vs Dortmund in both legs but stayed away vs Juventus because of Juve's experience!!
                                                                      that's just a quarterfinal though - stakes arent that high there. Its a fair game - i do believe in conspiracy around big games - cause sponsor money for next season plus broadcast revenue of bigger clubs sometimes surpass a whole yearly budget of a smaller team - thats why the latter can only afford young buds on their team.

                                                                      If i were the owner and any intelligent businessman - would approach the owner of the smaller club and settle for the result. Why would a smaller team decline a multimillion dollar deal which is more profit than winning the cup itself? Soccer is a business afterall too. And UEFA doesnt spy after club owners - just officials, so
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