Gonzaga @ Saint Mary's

DOM_Toretto · 02-11-17, 05:04 PM

Line is too small. Zags may be challenged here, but can come away with a 5-10 point win easily. Laying 2 or 3 is a gift. Was hoping to get SMC +8 or +10 in a potentially lower scoring, grind out slow pace game but at this line I'll back the zags.

jjgold · 02-11-17, 05:07 PM

I took St. Mary"s but Gonzales will win

Dirty Sanchez · 02-11-17, 05:27 PM

El Nino · 02-11-17, 05:41 PM

Line says Zags lose. Not sure I buy it...

RangeFinder · 02-11-17, 05:48 PM

St. Mary's can ball with the best. Line reflects that. Zags could very well lose this game.

My opinion.

RGG · 02-11-17, 05:53 PM

At -3 flip a coin, leaning on Zags though.

Snowball · 02-11-17, 05:57 PM

Zags, they are the undefeated team, it's that St. Mary's gym
that has everyone scared off Zags, not the stats and not the players.

RangeFinder · 02-11-17, 06:02 PM

Originally posted by Snowball

Zags, they are the undefeated team, it's that St. Mary's gym
that has everyone scared off Zags, not the stats and not the players.

It's the players on the court. Zags are going to have to play their "A" game, which will be tough.

DOM_Toretto · 02-11-17, 06:58 PM

Originally posted by RangeFinder

It's the players on the court. Zags are going to have to play their "A" game, which will be tough.

I agree with snowball - it's the SMC gym and atmosphere/energy. Zags have already beaten more talented teams, like Florida.

RangeFinder · 02-11-17, 07:18 PM

Florida has a team?

Snowball · 02-11-17, 07:30 PM

Originally posted by DOM_Toretto

I agree with snowball - it's the SMC gym and atmosphere/energy. Zags have already beaten more talented teams, like Florida.

I have Zags -1 but not a lot, and Silva and Holm later.

St. Mary's should never upgrade their home court.
It would come with losses if they did.

QuantumLeap · 02-11-17, 07:52 PM

Zags lose their first game and it won't even be close.

funnyb25 · 02-11-17, 07:58 PM

Small bet on St. Mary's just for fun...Pulling for them

Smoke · 02-11-17, 08:00 PM

Originally posted by funnyb25

Small bet on St. Mary's just for fun...Pulling for them

Oh wow funny

gummo · 02-11-17, 08:09 PM

Two very good defensive teams. I like under 133.

unde0087 · 02-11-17, 08:11 PM

Considering St Mary's schedule this season they better hope they win this game. Its almost ridiculous they are in the top 25.

chico2663 · 02-11-17, 08:15 PM

This game always goes under so i took the over

jjgold · 02-11-17, 09:26 PM

Zags look strong

Wrongside · 02-11-17, 09:26 PM

Big 10 officiating crew would have this game much much closer. WCC refs don't know about proper home cooking.

astro61200 · 02-11-17, 10:03 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

Zags look strong

17-4-1 ATS. They've been strong all season.

kidcudi92 · 02-11-17, 10:07 PM

Originally posted by QuantumLeap

Zags lose their first game and it won't even be close.

omega · 02-11-17, 10:15 PM

Originally posted by astro61200

17-4-1 ATS. They've been strong all season.

They're a covering machine. Don't understand why people don't just ride them till they lose a spread.

astro61200 · 02-11-17, 10:29 PM

Originally posted by omega

They're a covering machine. Don't understand why people don't just ride them till they lose a spread.

Overthinking. Getting scared of massive spreads. They pretty much get to pick what they're going to win by on a nightly basis. They usually are within a few points of the game spread at the half, even when it's 20-25+.

DOM_Toretto · 02-11-17, 10:31 PM

Originally posted by omega

They're a covering machine. Don't understand why people don't just ride them till they lose a spread.

Most "people" betting NCAAB now haven't been following the sport. They think this is a typically Gonzaga team who hasn't been battle tested. But Gonzaga is the ONLY team in the country who's top 5 in offensive AND defensive efficiency.

omega · 02-11-17, 10:35 PM

Originally posted by astro61200

Overthinking. Getting scared of massive spreads. They pretty much get to pick what they're going to win by on a nightly basis. They usually are within a few points of the game spread at the half, even when it's 20-25+.

Same thing with Furman, covered again today, this time by 9.5 points. Covering machines. Ride 'em till they lose.

omega · 02-11-17, 10:45 PM

Originally posted by DOM_Toretto

Most "people" betting NCAAB now haven't been following the sport. They think this is a typically Gonzaga team who hasn't been battle tested. But Gonzaga is the ONLY team in the country who's top 5 in offensive AND defensive efficiency.

Its so nice to watch a team that plays excellent defense like them.

kidcudi92 · 02-11-17, 11:03 PM

Originally posted by DOM_Toretto

Most "people" betting NCAAB now haven't been following the sport. They think this is a typically Gonzaga team who hasn't been battle tested. But Gonzaga is the ONLY team in the country who's top 5 in offensive AND defensive efficiency.

yep

totally different team, hammered them today

best team they have had ...since i can remember or ever for that program???

as an IU fan I am actually nervous they could run the table (including tourney) - just want IU to still be the last team to do it lol

unde0087 · 02-11-17, 11:16 PM

Originally posted by DOM_Toretto

Most "people" betting NCAAB now haven't been following the sport. They think this is a typically Gonzaga team who hasn't been battle tested. But Gonzaga is the ONLY team in the country who's top 5 in offensive AND defensive efficiency.

Maybe because 95% of their schedule is against teams that won't even sniff the tournament. You think they would be doing that in the ACC, Big 12, Big East or Big 10? Not even close. I think we can equate that to the almost 100th rated SOS. I think everyone else in the top 25 average around the 20s.

I like Mark Few, got respect for the guy and what he has accomplished, but this is nothing more than what we see every season. Few out recruits his conference 10 fold. IMO, they will by far be the weakest #1 seed in the tournament and most likely be the first #1 out like the last time.

kidcudi92 · 02-11-17, 11:20 PM

Originally posted by unde0087

Maybe because 95% of their schedule is against teams that won't even sniff the tournament. You think they would be doing that in the ACC, Big 12, Big East or Big 10? Not even close. I think we can equate that to the almost 100th rated SOS. I think everyone else in the top 25 average around the 20s.

I like Mark Few, got respect for the guy and what he has accomplished, but this is nothing more than what we see every season. Few out recruits his conference 10 fold. IMO, they will by far be the weakest #1 seed in the tournament and most likely be the first #1 out like the last time.

???????? you been drinking und ?????

unde0087 · 02-11-17, 11:29 PM

Originally posted by kidcudi92

???????? you been drinking und ?????

No, just trying to wake people up. This is not the best team Few has coached but everyone seems to think it is. No one remembers any of the other teams that actually put Gonzaga on the map. Its annoying. Kudi, if Zags reach the final 4 I will put in the paperwork for your Pro membership the second that game goes final but it isn't going to happen.

kidcudi92 · 02-11-17, 11:43 PM

Originally posted by unde0087

No, just trying to wake people up. This is not the best team Few has coached but everyone seems to think it is. No one remembers any of the other teams that actually put Gonzaga on the map. Its annoying. Kudi, if Zags reach the final 4 I will put in the paperwork for your Pro membership the second that game goes final but it isn't going to happen.

i don't like to disagree but this team is scary

unde0087 · 02-11-17, 11:54 PM

Originally posted by kidcudi92

i don't like to disagree but this team is scary

They have a good squad, probably the deepest team Few has coached but I am not convinced they have what it takes to do what some of the other Few teams have done in the past. But ya, keep riding them in this pathetic conference for sure.

DOM_Toretto · 02-12-17, 12:10 AM

Originally posted by unde0087

Maybe because 95% of their schedule is against teams that won't even sniff the tournament. You think they would be doing that in the ACC, Big 12, Big East or Big 10? Not even close. I think we can equate that to the almost 100th rated SOS. I think everyone else in the top 25 average around the 20s.

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I posted this somewhere else, but to recap: Gonzaga beat Arizona, they won in Florida, they won at Tennessee and vs. Iowa State. They are deep, have size, perimeter shooting and defense... they have a McDonald's All American point guard who's a Wooden Award top 20 finalist, 4 good guards and 4 good big men, and a good coach. I may have said this in years past, but THIS looks like the best Gonzaga team ever.

I believe they'd be 1st or 2nd in the PAC 12, Big Ten, or Big East. I think they'd easily be top 3 in the Big XII. They'd be top 5 in the ACC, but that conference is all about how the conf schedule lands.

astro61200 · 02-12-17, 12:25 AM

Originally posted by omega

Same thing with Furman, covered again today, this time by 9.5 points. Covering machines. Ride 'em till they lose.

Are they? Haven't noticed, will definitely take a look at them for their next game. Louisville had been covering like crazy (16-5 in their first 21) but has lost ATS the last 2, however one of those 2 games they suspended 2 starters before the game.