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  • sync2
    SBR Rookie
    • 08-23-16
    • 20

    #1
    is money won from online gamble taxable in the USA?
    I'm having a large balance on my account and was wondering if I have to pay tax on it. I was having a hot streak at sportsbetting. Will I get into any trouble later on? Does the government get suspicious about the checks coming into my bank account?
  • RudyRuetigger
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 08-24-10
    • 65084

    #2
    damned if you do, damned if you don't

    next time I recommend losing to avoid this dilemma
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    • Smoke
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 10-09-09
      • 48111

      #3
      Yes

      Pay your taxes

      Or give up your fruit cocktail in jail
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      • krk1030
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 08-13-08
        • 17610

        #4
        Originally posted by sync2
        I'm having a large balance on my account and was wondering if I have to pay tax on it. I was having a hot streak at sportsbetting. Will I get into any trouble later on? Does the government get suspicious about the checks coming into my bank account?
        Sure it is, but offshore books dont report anything to the IRS.
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        • unusialsusp5
          SBR MVP
          • 04-18-10
          • 4198

          #5
          Originally posted by sync2
          I'm having a large balance on my account and was wondering if I have to pay tax on it. I was having a hot streak at sportsbetting. Will I get into any trouble later on? Does the government get suspicious about the checks coming into my bank account?
          they wouldn't have known since there are 320 million people in the u.s. and only about 10 agents. now they can subpoena sbr for your info since you let the cat out of the bag. don't ask, don't tell.
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          • Fire in da hole
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 09-29-10
            • 6262

            #6
            You're a gambler, gamble again and not report it. Fukem
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            • rm18
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 09-20-05
              • 22291

              #7
              Paying on balances or cash withdrawals is silly, if you put a bunch of checks in your bank you need to be more careful
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              • sync2
                SBR Rookie
                • 08-23-16
                • 20

                #8
                Originally posted by rm18
                Paying on balances or cash withdrawals is silly, if you put a bunch of checks in your bank you need to be more careful
                Wouldn't checks from other countries considered as gifts? And from my knowledge; gifts are tax-free.
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                • rm18
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 09-20-05
                  • 22291

                  #9
                  money transfers are gifts but it looks more like income on checks imo especially if they are coming every few weeks or month.
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                  • Bostongambler
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                    • 02-01-08
                    • 35581

                    #10
                    Yes & No Mr. Federal agent.
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                    • Dirty Sanchez
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 03-01-10
                      • 16031

                      #11
                      Originally posted by sync2
                      Wouldn't checks from other countries considered as gifts? And from my knowledge; gifts are tax-free.
                      Best of luck in jail...when you get out let us know how it went...you know...soap on a rope etc.
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                      • Philmill
                        SBR MVP
                        • 09-30-11
                        • 4275

                        #12
                        pay your taxes.........its that simple......don't be a scum bag.....
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                        • Otters27
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                          • 07-14-07
                          • 30760

                          #13
                          I don't have to worry about taxes becuase I lose
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                          • d2bets
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                            • 08-10-05
                            • 39995

                            #14
                            Originally posted by sync2
                            Wouldn't checks from other countries considered as gifts? And from my knowledge; gifts are tax-free.
                            Gifts are gratuitous transfers. The sportsbook is not sending you money because they are fond of you. They are sending it because you earned it and the owe it. It's income.
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                            • Dirty Sanchez
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                              • 03-01-10
                              • 16031

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Otters27
                              I don't have to worry about taxes becuase I lose
                              Claim your losses Otters and let us know what happens
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                              • Jayvegas420
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                                • 03-09-11
                                • 28213

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Philmill
                                pay your taxes.........its that simple......don't be a scum bag.....
                                The Boss doesn't pay. Why should the citizens?
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                                • Auto Donk
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 09-03-13
                                  • 43558

                                  #17
                                  rule here is simple....... ACTUAL RULE: OF COURSE IT IS....

                                  RULE IN APPLICATION: IF YOU DON'T GET A 1099, IT DIDN'T HAPPEN.......

                                  kinda analgous to a tree falling in the forest makin' noise if noone is there to hear it.....

                                  if it didn't result in a 1099, no taxable event occurred......
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                                  • Philmill
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 09-30-11
                                    • 4275

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Jayvegas420
                                    The Boss doesn't pay. Why should the citizens?
                                    I know Jayvegas420...... this guy that started this thread has to be 5-0..........or his f8king a dumbbunny asking that kind of question.....bahahaha
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                                    • unusialsusp5
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 04-18-10
                                      • 4198

                                      #19
                                      can you imagine if the irs checked everyone's bank account to see if there was an uneven flow of deposits into it. it would take them 20 years to just do rhode island. no 1099, no worry.
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                                      • Jayvegas420
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                                        • 03-09-11
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Auto Donk
                                        rule here is simple....... ACTUAL RULE: OF COURSE IT IS....

                                        RULE IN APPLICATION: IF YOU DON'T GET A 1099, IT DIDN'T HAPPEN.......

                                        kinda analgous to a tree falling in the forest makin' noise if noone is there to hear it.....

                                        if it didn't result in a 1099, no taxable event occurred......
                                        About the best advice you'll get here.
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                                        • sync2
                                          SBR Rookie
                                          • 08-23-16
                                          • 20

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Auto Donk
                                          rule here is simple....... ACTUAL RULE: OF COURSE IT IS....

                                          RULE IN APPLICATION: IF YOU DON'T GET A 1099, IT DIDN'T HAPPEN.......

                                          kinda analgous to a tree falling in the forest makin' noise if noone is there to hear it.....

                                          if it didn't result in a 1099, no taxable event occurred......
                                          what is 1099? I don't want to pay tax since I might lose all the money back in the future. I'm just worrying about the amounts of foreign checks coming into my bank accounts.
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                                          • Bostongambler
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                                            • 02-01-08
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Otters27
                                            I don't have to worry about taxes becuase I lose
                                            You really don't have to declare points on your taxes.
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                                            • funnyb25
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                                              • 07-09-09
                                              • 39663

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Jayvegas420
                                              The Boss doesn't pay. Why should the citizens?
                                              Sharp...
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                                              • thetrinity
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 01-25-11
                                                • 22430

                                                #24
                                                Donk and krk best responses here
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                                                • vividjohn45
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                                                  • 11-21-10
                                                  • 6331

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Otters27
                                                  I don't have to worry about taxes becuase I lose
                                                  This.
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                                                  • vividjohn45
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                                                    • 11-21-10
                                                    • 6331

                                                    #26
                                                    If you withdrawal you need to pay taxes on net winnimgs. Problem is offshores dont report to irs. Or send you or give you proper tax documents to do your taxes. This is the gamblers dilemna.
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                                                    • vividjohn45
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                                                      • 11-21-10
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                                                      #27
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                                                      • vividjohn45
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                                                        • 11-21-10
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                                                        #28
                                                        Hope that helps. I try to stay accurate. But hell. How many hands of bkackjack or poker do u play. Impossible for player to track. So estimation is needed. As a practical matter.
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                                                        • Goat Milk
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                                                          • 03-24-10
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Philmill
                                                          pay your taxes.........its that simple......don't be a scum bag.....
                                                          wtf? do you report your gambling losses too then? because if you don't then you're getting ripped off...

                                                          would never report my gambling winnings.
                                                          Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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                                                          • Goat Milk
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                                                            • 03-24-10
                                                            • 25850

                                                            #30
                                                            If you report your gambling winnings you are a square plain and simple

                                                            Most places in the world don't even have income tax

                                                            Don't be stupid and gullible
                                                            Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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                                                            • ThaWoj
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                                                              • 03-09-10
                                                              • 6764

                                                              #31
                                                              1 person out of 1000 people report gambling winnings on their offshore winnings. The people in this thread saying to do so, don't do it themselves.
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                                                              • ByeShea
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                                                                • 06-30-08
                                                                • 8113

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by sync2
                                                                I'm having a large balance on my account and was wondering if I have to pay tax on it. I was having a hot streak at sportsbetting. Will I get into any trouble later on? Does the government get suspicious about the checks coming into my bank account?
                                                                Illegal, not taxable.

                                                                Collect it and pretend it never came in. If you get audited come clean and pay the piper. If you live in a low income zip code it doesn't matter what you do.
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                                                                • grease lightnin
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 10-01-12
                                                                  • 16015

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Auto Donk
                                                                  rule here is simple....... ACTUAL RULE: OF COURSE IT IS....

                                                                  RULE IN APPLICATION: IF YOU DON'T GET A 1099, IT DIDN'T HAPPEN.......

                                                                  kinda analgous to a tree falling in the forest makin' noise if noone is there to hear it.....

                                                                  if it didn't result in a 1099, no taxable event occurred......


                                                                  Guess you're not a tax lawyer.

                                                                  Per IRS.gov--


                                                                  Gambling winnings

                                                                  Gambling winnings are fully taxable and must be reported on Form 1040.

                                                                  Gambling income includes, among other things, winnings from lotteries, raffles, horse races, poker tournaments and casinos. It includes cash winnings as well as the fair market value of prizes such as cars and trips.

                                                                  Even if a W-2G is not issued, all gambling winnings must be reported as taxable income
                                                                  regardless of whether any portion is subject to withholding. In addition, taxpayers may be required to pay an estimated tax on the gambling winnings.


                                                                  Losses may be deducted only if the taxpayer itemizes deductions and only if he or she also has gambling winnings. The losses deducted may not be more than the gambling income reported on the return.



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                                                                  • triplecrown333
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 07-13-14
                                                                    • 1524

                                                                    #34
                                                                    wouldnt it be self incriminating if online gambling is not legal in your state?
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                                                                    • RudyRuetigger
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 08-24-10
                                                                      • 65084

                                                                      #35
                                                                      what are you allowed to receive, $5000 in gifts from one identity per year?

                                                                      next year post your plays and say here is a free gift...Jacksonville rivermen -3
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