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[kidcudi92]

[Mac4Lyfe]

They should be pulled over 25 times more than whites. Their crime rate is about 25 times that of white people.

Again, black males...only make up 5% of the entire US population. But they do over 50% of the violent crime in this country. You better believe the police should be checking them. I can't believe they are only pulled over 3X as much. It should be way MORE than that if the police were doing their jobs. But we got police running scared of being labeled racists so much that they've given up on policing blacks. Thats why the murder rate in Chicago and St Louis has skyrocketed. Police have given up on it.

But again, all of you progressive beta SJW morons never look at stats. Never look at data. You are willfully ignorant. I am very conservative, and I know Trump really is not much of a conservative, if at all - but I guarantee if he gets elected we won't be having a President make excuses for these violent parasites that have tried to destroy the US culture. We won't have a President blaming white people for violent Muslims wanting to kill us. We will have a President that tells it like it is.

And the flat out truth is that #1. Islam is at war with everyone who is not Muslim. If every single terrorist attack in multiple countries, and the very words of the Koran cannot convince you, then nothing will. #2. They will use any means necessary to inflict as many deaths as possible. #3. The way to win this war is to either kill them all, or convert them all. There's no making peace with people that want to kill you. Taking weapons away from them is IMPOSSIBLE. Naive. And stupid to even consider.

As for blacks, complete loss cause until they stop having babies out of wedlock. The only way government can help change that is to end welfare and stop incentivizing baby making. Till that changes, nothing in that community will change. Going to be poor, angry, violent, and lacking discipline growing up with only mama in the home. Ain't nobody can change that till they do it themselves.

Wow guy, you are fukked up with some bullshit beliefs. You are throwing out stats to serve your twisted mind. Do you really think any president holds as much power as you think to get shit done? You need to quit watching TV. I'm done with this conversation because you are the lost cause. You're more dangerous than the guys you're talking about. Damn, you're fukked up. You need to go see a shrink.

[kidcudi92]

[habitualwinning]

This is simply not true. Did you know that there are more blacks in college than there are in prison? You also have to take into account of the number of blacks that have been falsely imprisoned and are completely innocent. There are quite of them. We hear all of the time about innocent blacks that have been serving years in prison only to finally be released.

Okay so what are you trying to say then? That the FBI and Justice Department blatantly lied about crime figures in America?

[habitualwinning]

Did you have parents? Did they try to teach you right from wrong? Many of these kids are growing up in families where the parents are doing wrong so they can't teach right from wrong. You may be an outlier, so also your black chick. I do not have time to break down your stats because you won't be open to what I share because you've already formed your opinion. There are disproportionate amount of disadvantage black people so you should expect them to commit more crimes. I can take you to several black neighborhoods where there are no crime (look at the list I showed above). and I can take you to white areas that white people commit all the crimes.

I hope you also know that 90% of blacks are killing blacks. And by the same token, 82% of whites are killing whites. So don't try and spin this into black people killing white people because it is not true. By a large margin, people kill people that are in their own environment.

I just want to say that I'm not trying to debate with you and I respect your points of view. I actually understand what you're saying and I would agree that parenting does play a profound role in the outcome of offspring. I'm very open minded so to say that I've already formulated my opinion is bogus. I change my point of view often when new data comes along like any good scientific pupil would.

You're correct that most murders are between people of the same race. Data supports that. I was never trying to spin it off as blacks are killing all the whites as you made it sound. Simply pointing out facts corroborated by the FBI and Justice Dept. about murder in America. No matter what race of person is getting murdered, it's still wrong and illegal. Did you know police killed over 1200 American citizens last year and the majority of them were unarmed? That's another nice stat that people conveniently never bring up.

A lot of people in this thread are just going off on each other and stating asinine remarks. I like to deal with facts and avoid the name calling and pointless emotional banter. I think we're more similar than opposing on our positions on guns from what I've seen you say. I, however, think that guns are a small problem of a much bigger picture overall in America. We have a very violent society. Look at road rage for example and how that's exploded. Cleaning up the gun issue would be a nice step but we still have problems beyond that. I don't even know what the solutions are to some of these problems anymore.

[bettilimbroke999]

Which is why I got the hell out of Cleveland many years ago. But I've seen my share of poor white trash doing stupid shit in Florida too, believe that. Try reading the news in Florida and it will have you shaking your head. I'm glad I'm out of that place. Bottom line, years ago, you could insulate yourself from most of the bullshit if you had money. Now, no place is safe. Too many crazies everywhere, no matter the color. Too many people with mental illnesses. It's like hereditary and spreading rapidly.

Yup...it's the welfare culture more kids more benefits...best thing that ever happened to street gangs

[Muller Rose]

Is this an act of terrorism or just a plain scumbag high in dope or something?
Anyhow.. RIP. Sad news.

[Mac4Lyfe]

5% of the population in this country...FIVE PERCENT....BLACK MALES AGES 14-40....COMMIT > 50%...FIFTY PERCENT...of violent crime in the US.

And you think white people cause crime? Are you shitting me? We got 5% of our population doing over 50% of the crime, and you want to blame whites.

what is it... crime or violent crime? Either way you are dead ass wrong. Your data is so fukking wrong it's not even funny. Have you ever looked at the DOJ statistics on crime in America? White people, men and woman commit over 60% of all violent crime in America. Black people including Hispanics commit 37%. Do your damn research. You cannot determine how many black men exactly are committing these violent crimes because the DOJ did not separate the data by gender. Bottom line is that there are more white people committing VIOLENT crimes than black AND Hispanic people. Wake the fuk up.

You are mixing up your numbers by quoting murders which is broken down by gender. Black men are responsible for 45% of all murders in the US, while white men are responsible for 42%. BUT, the waters are muddy here because Hispanics get lumped into black and white data but who really knows by how much. The great majority of black men are killing black men, the majority of white men are killing white men. The majority of all these killings are within their own communities. So, it's not like black men are targeting white men and vice versa. A white man is more likely to be shot and killed by another white man. Bottom line, despite your fear.

There are 9 countries that have more murders per year than the US and only 2 of the countries are predominantly black. Non black people commit much more murders world wide. There are 111 other countries around the world that have a higher murder rate per capita than the US. Many are non black. Greenland for example has a murder rate 5 times more than the US and there ain't no blacks in Greenland.

I don't have an agenda, just telling you the truth. Stop this irrational sense of fear that some strange black man is out there to kill you. Whites have an 83% chance of being killed by another white. Blacks have a 90% chance of being killed by another black. Blacks actually have a higher chance of being killed by a white than a white has at being killed by a black. And no the white is not the police, which is to low to count. Number do not lie. Educate yourself and stop being a victim to fear. Can we get back on topic?

[habitualwinning]

Is this an act of terrorism or just a plain scumbag high in dope or something?
Anyhow.. RIP. Sad news.

I've heard it been labeled as both an act of terrorism and a hate crime. It's also the largest mass shooting in American history, most lives lost.

[Mac4Lyfe]

I just want to say that I'm not trying to debate with you and I respect your points of view. I actually understand what you're saying and I would agree that parenting does play a profound role in the outcome of offspring. I'm very open minded so to say that I've already formulated my opinion is bogus. I change my point of view often when new data comes along like any good scientific pupil would.

You're correct that most murders are between people of the same race. Data supports that. I was never trying to spin it off as blacks are killing all the whites as you made it sound. Simply pointing out facts corroborated by the FBI and Justice Dept. about murder in America. No matter what race of person is getting murdered, it's still wrong and illegal. Did you know police killed over 1200 American citizens last year and the majority of them were unarmed? That's another nice stat that people conveniently never bring up.

A lot of people in this thread are just going off on each other and stating asinine remarks. I like to deal with facts and avoid the name calling and pointless emotional banter. I think we're more similar than opposing on our positions on guns from what I've seen you say. I, however, think that guns are a small problem of a much bigger picture overall in America. We have a very violent society. Look at road rage for example and how that's exploded. Cleaning up the gun issue would be a nice step but we still have problems beyond that. I don't even know what the solutions are to some of these problems anymore.

I sure don't know the solution because the bible says that you will always have the poor. So if you always have the poor, inherently you are going to have people who want what you have and see no way to get it legally. I do think we all have to take responsibility to reach one, teach one. Try to help one at a time. You can't eat an elephant in a day. Gun issues, child poverty, broken homes, military suicide rates, Islamic fundamentalist, etc., etc. there's so many issues, you try to help where you can. If the masses would each do a little, we could end up doing a lot. The problem is that most people don't know where to start and we don't have leadership to show us the way. Unfortunately, I don't see the 2 party system as the answer. It's going to take someone with a tremendous amount of vision that can cause everyone to change. Which might be 100 years from now.

[Mac4Lyfe]

Which reminds me, I have a HS kid coming to my office first thing in the morning as part of a mentoring circle. I need to take my ass to sleep. Night all.

[ACoochy]

You yanks have had a minimum of 1 mass shooting a day for the last 3 years, there have been more mass shootings in that period than days. MASS shootings, not regular, MASS!!! Yet morons think more guns will help, well that approach hasn't worked in the last 20 years, it's only gotten worse. Maybe gun control might help.

If this many people were being murdered from gun violence in another country, and that country was doing nothing about it, the US would penetrating invade them...

Dumberica strikes again...

[kidcudi92]

there are also 56,483 people in Greenland... (2013 data)

too small to compare it

in 2007 the rate was 3.5

the year the rate was 19.4 there was 11 murders (2009)

[bettilimbroke999]

I don't have an agenda, just telling you the truth. Stop this irrational sense of fear that some strange black man is out there to kill you. Whites have an 83% chance of being killed by another white. Blacks have a 90% chance of being killed by another black. Blacks actually have a higher chance of being killed by a white than a white has at being killed by a black. And no the white is not the police, which is to low to count. Number do not lie. Educate yourself and stop being a victim to fear. Can we get back on topic?

Lifelong permanent welfare has destroyed the blacks culture....reward failure and penalize success....do it for their entire life and then wonder why they failed. I am an anti-welfarist....there should never even be considered the concept of permanent welfare...welfare is designed to give you a help up when your down...the blacks have turned it into communism....free food, free rent, free healthcare, free utilities, free cash, etc. and as long as you never rise above low-income status we'll never take it away...why the penetrate would a poor person penetrate that up by trying to succeed? You'd actually have to be an idiot to try to succeed and be independent....get an education and get a job and work my ass off to pay for my rent, utilities, food why the penetrate would I do that I already get those things for nothing?

This permanent lifelong welfare system is worse for the blacks than slavery ever was...if there was any justice in the world Democrats would be taken out into the street and shot for their pure idiocy in creating it...communist piles of shit.

[bettilimbroke999]

On a lighter note that poor Grimmie girl....you cant even get shot by a crazed stalker fan John Lennon-style (I guess he was a fan I'd never heard of her til he killed her but maybe I'm just too old) in Orlando anymore and stay on top of the Orlando news for a whole day before some whacko Muslim kills 50 ppl and ppl forget about you

[chico2663]

Something he quoted made it look like he had his Muhammad's mixed up, so i was asking to clarify.

I certainly don't know much about Islam nor am I taking up for him but do we really know the exact age Aiesha was when they married? I think I read that she had gone through puberty which I think was the only rule for marriage back then. I think he had a vision of marrying her several years before that so it wasn't some quick "lust" thing. Even the bible has some unusual things that make you go hmmm, so I don't try to knock other people's beliefs without fully understanding where they're coming from.

Girls from the ages of 9 to 14 were also being married in Europe, Asia, and Africa back then anyway. Just a century ago here in the United States girls at the age of 10 were also being married. So it's not a foreign concept.

Read up on the practice of thighing/ Yes i'm sure about the age.

[chico2663]

Exactly. Crime is all in the demographics. Go to any city or town in the US that has a 90% white population, and you'll see a safe city regardless of any gun laws on the books.

Go to any black hood, and you'll find crime. Lots of it.

Whitey bulger was from a 90% white neighborhood. Certain parts of Kentucky are all white and with the invent of hillbilly heroin there is a hell of a lot of theft. Now if you said affluent whites than you may have a point, Darryl Gates ex police chief of l.a. had a son who had offers to play football in college(usc and n.d. to name a few) He had a knee injury in school and got hooked on oxy. They sent him to rehab about 4 times but he kept stealing from neighbors, He got killed in a B&E.

[chico2663]

Does anyone else find these events intriguing just before a major event like the presidential elections?

It's like they are timed perfectly.

Been telling friends and family that something like this would happen and lead to a wave to elect Trump. But then again Nostradamus says we are getting ready to be done. I always thought it would be a pulse bomb but it could be someone ragging on Donald's small hands. lol

[chico2663]

But sex with little boys is acceptable.Bacha bereesh and bacha bazi

[chico2663]

ATF said he bought the gun legally...you can't buy a "automatic assault rifle" legally unless you have military or law enforcement credentials and even then it's not that simple...so which is it? Did he buy the gun legally or was is an actual "automatic assault rifle"??...you sound like you don't know what you are talking about, that's all..

I think he filed down the clip

[bettilimbroke999]

Read up on the practice of thighing/ Yes i'm sure about the age.

Muslims...could they get any worse....I mean seriously a religion that preaches child molestation, terrorism, mass murder....I mean seriously Muslims do you ever think maybe you're just worshipping the Devil?

You've been charged with being a serial child molestor...

Oh well I'm just a Muslim practicing my beliefs

Also you apparently mass murdered 50 ppl...

Right right I did murder a lot of ppl but in fairness I am a Muslim

Uhhh okay also you apparently blew up a building full of ppl

Yes yes well I am a terrorist of course but that's again part of being a Muslim

You shot up a daycare

Mmmhmm mmmhmm I mean I'm trying to be a good Muslim

Are you sure you're not just the personification of evil?

What's the difference...Muslim...personification of evil...they're synonyms....now am I gonna get refugee status or what?

[chico2663]

Someone said the guy in California got busted because he was buying chemicals. Nothing could be farther from the truth. The dipshit got caught cause he was knocking on peoples doors at 5 in the morning. Here is the link to the An Indiana man armed with assault rifles and explosive chemicals was arrested on his way to a gay pride event in Los Angeles, police said Sunday.James Wesley Howell, 20, was arrested when Santa Monica police discovered three assault rifles, high capacity magazines and ammunition in his car, according to a news release from the Santa Monica Police Department. Investigators also recovered a five-gallon bucket "with chemicals capable of forming an improvised explosive device," police said.
According to initial reports from Santa Monica police Chief Jacqueline Seabrooks, Howell told officers he wanted to harm the gay pride event in West Hollywood that was taking place about 7 miles away later Sunday.
But Seabrooks later called those comments an "inaccuracy," saying on Twitter that Howell only said that he was going to the event, not that he wanted to harm anyone.

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Authorities encountered Howell while responding to a call about "suspicious circumstances" in Santa Monica shortly before 5 a.m. Police said Howell was reportedly knocking on a resident's door and window. Howell's vehicle was registered in Indiana.
Seabrooks also tweeted that there are no known connections between Howell's arrest and the mass shooting this weekend that killed 50 people at a gay nightclub in Florida.
According to court records, Howell most recently lived in Jeffersonville, which is part of the Louisville metro area. He was arrested in Clark County in October 2015 on a felony charge of pointing a firearm and a misdemeanor charge of intimidation.
Court records show Howell pleaded guilty in April to the intimidation charge. The felony firearm charge was dismissed. Howell was sentenced to serve a year of probation. According to court records, he was to "forfeit all weapons" for the entirety of his probation period.
Three days after his plea in that case, Howell was indicted in Jefferson Circuit Court in Kentucky on charges of fleeing or evading police and reckless driving, according to court documents. Howell is scheduled for a hearing in that case next month. Further details about that case were not immediately available.
A man who attended middle school and high school with Howell told IndyStar that he was the quiet one in their class. He said Howell didn't talk much, but would get into arguments and fights with people over differences of opinions.
The man, who asked to remain anonymous for fear of retribution, told IndyStar that he couldn't really think of a situation in which Howell spoke about his opinions regarding the LGBT community.
Howell's arrest is still under investigation by the Santa Monica Police Department, which says it is collaborating with the FBI.
Matthew Glowicki of the Louisville Courier-Journal and The Associated Press contributed to this story.

[chico2663]

Everyone says Obama wants to do away with our guns. That is not true he just wants to get rid of the gun show loop hole.

[chico2663]

[rake922]

perfect

[chico2663]

[teaserpleaser]

Yup bunch of savages doing rain dances and shit to try to make it rain...real advanced...thats why those reservations are such nice places to live...guzzling Listerine in a trailer

Wow

just


wow

[chico2663]

[teaserpleaser]

I think broker would enjoy storm front

broker have you checked it out?

Betimbroke talking about the browning of America lol better wake up you'll be a minority in the blink of an eye

if you aren't already. Nobody can be certain how many illegals are here.

trust me there are a lot.

[chico2663]

http://www.ijreview.com/2016/06/627509-the-father-of-the-orlando-shooter-recently-visited-state-department-writes-open-letters-to-president-obama/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=owned&utm_campaign=ods&utm_term=ijamerica&utm_content=terrorism

[chico2663]

Says here that another false flag sent out by our govt. to get our weapons. If that article is true.
maybe fraud but someone shared it

[bettilimbroke999]

I think broker would enjoy storm front

broker have you checked it out?

Betimbroke talking about the browning of America lol better wake up you'll be a minority in the blink of an eye

if you aren't already. Nobody can be certain how many illegals are here.

trust me there are a lot.

Yea that would be fine and I would do that except I've said absolutely nothing racist....I assume you are referring to a joke I made about Indians being rain dancing savages....that was a joke...again we did steal this country from the Indians and kill them but officially no one gives a penetrate and yes reservations are shitholes where Indians sit around and get drunk in trailers...I've been to one unfortunately and that's what they are

[opie1988]

Yea that would be fine and I would do that except I've said absolutely nothing racist....I assume you are referring to a joke I made about Indians being rain dancing savages....that was a joke...again we did steal this country from the Indians and kill them but officially no one gives a penetrate and yes reservations are shitholes where Indians sit around and get drunk in trailers...I've been to one unfortunately and that's what they are

You're 1000% correct.

Every rez I've ever been close too is a shithole. Bunch of drinks and drug addicts sitting around on overturned 5 gal buckets smoking meth and waiting for their govt assistance and casino checks.

[TheSideBet]

Do gays know how to fight back?

Dude had balls picking on gays?

Must of had some massive nuts.

[TheSideBet]

Has anyone seen the shooter's father's videos??? Guy claimed to be some Afghan govt leader with his own intelligence agency against Pakistan and sources inside the Congress here in the U.S. This story is about to get more interesting.