Indio its all about dividend paying life insurance
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First off, I don't even know what betpoints are, and I have no use for them, so to me, they have about as much value as a Zimbabwe dollar. Offer me $10k in a secured account, and I'll send you over 2,000 pages of what you want, including official notarized documents filed (will be the best 10k you ever spend). Otherwise, it's not worth my time.Ok... before I address the rest of that behemoth of a post filled with inaccuracies and conspiracies... give me proof from a reliable source that the Rothschilds or any other families have substantial enough holdings to control banks through proxy... let alone shadowy back room meetings or whatever else you think. If you can give me that, I will go forward. Otherwise, go join the other tin foil hat wearers in the saloon.
Son? I ain't your son. Why don't you enlighten me rather than insult me and make racist comments and spout completely unfounded conspiracy theories. Hell don't give me proof, just give me something compelling that doesn't reek of wacko conspiracy theories.
I will gladly give you 500 bet points if you can do any of what I asked.
So let me see if I understand you correctly,you think the Rothschilds and the Rockefellers don't have any significant holdings in the Federal Reserve, Bank of London, World Bank, IMF, or any other entity that controls currency of governments?
It's not like it's a secret, and it certainly isn't a conspiracy theory, it's common knowledge. However, they make sure it's not talked about too much on their media channels and newspapers, and they laughably are allowed to keep it withheld from congressional audits, which is the biggest slap in the face to any American citizen. So I guess it's possible for those who are simple minded and easily controlled to believe that world currencies aren't run by globalist loan sharks.
And did you call me racist for calling the primary holders of Federal Reserve shares Jews? Well kid, that's what they are. If you're so far gone that telling the truth is racist to you, perhaps you should think long and hard as to why that is, then perhaps, you'll start to see things a little more clearly. It's obvious you're not ready to talk about things as an adult. Maybe you never will be. The choice is yours. Seek out the truth, embrace wisdom, be an independent thinker, and you too can be free. And you certainly won't ever make any interest payments on anything ever again.Comment -
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The Creature is out of it's Lair and is running rampant, and now anon is on to them.
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Indio--you typed a novel, yet you don't provide any proof or even anything that is somewhat compelling. The Rothschilds were in control of European banking in the 19th century. But their power dwindled significantly in the 20th century. The idea that they, or the Rockefellers (who aren't even Jewish) hold sway over the financial system is a MYTH. You won't provide proof or even anything compelling because there isn't anything to provide.
As far as comparing our current economy to our economy 100 years ago and suggesting that things are worse off... seriously? That is laughable. Lookie here! Proof: http://money.usnews.com/money/person...-100-years-ago
Indio-- my wife stays at home with our 4 children.Comment -
Consumer confidence, real unemployment, international slowdown, ect.
An increase in the money supply creates downward pressure on the value of the dollar, so turning on the printing presses to service the national dept is not exactly an enticing proposition for those holding U.S. treasury bonds.Comment -
Another thing I will add is:
Sure, if you want to go back to the 19th century like Indio, then yes, you should vote for Donald Trump and let "the king of debt" who likes to "play with it", "borrow knowing that if the economy crashed, he could make a deal".
I, however, like things as they are. Do I want them to improve? Sure, improvement is always good. But Americans spend too much time bitching and not enough time putting their heads down and working. If you really think it's all that bad, consider your standard of living compared to your grandparents, or hell, your parents. Are you not better off? If you're not, whose fault is it? Because I guarantee your grandparents worked harder and did more with the opportunities they had.
I hope an interesting Ross Perot-type third party candidate emerges. It would be the perfect time for that. But I think there are only a few days left to get on the ballot in some states....Comment -
Yes, but if you read my post you quoted..... we printed a ton, yet the value of the dollar did not go down (inflation), it held steady with tepid inflation less than 2%, and since we stopped printing in Oct of '14, the value of the dollar has gone back up vs other currencies and commodities (deflation). And the value of Treasuries have gone up, while the yield has gone down. This is because of a number of factors, many would say a slowdown in China and low demand in commodities and in turn, a slowdown in other emerging economies, but I would argue that it has more to do with the fire hydrant at the Fed being shut off in oct of 2014.
Either way, when the shit hit the fan in China and the rest of the world, tons of foreign investors bought dollars and US Treasuries because they are the SAFEST investments in the world. And this all goes back to....if the safety of the US dollar or US Treasury Bond is called into question, the whole world is fukked. Trust me.Comment -
We are here discussing what Trump said, but if you'd ask him what he said, I'd bet you'd get a different answer.
The guy is all over the map. I see early signs of alzheimer's.Comment -
If you vote for Clinton, it just shows how truly ignorant you are. Clinton will be a disgrace and will make a mockery of the military image of this country. Trump has the balls to do what is necessary. Don't care how controversial or naive or how much of a hypocrite he is when it comes to certain things. I don't care that he contradicts himself. He is a force of change. Clinton is a dry, manipulative, and deceptive woman who doesn't know anything. She chooses her words carefully. You can't elect a president based on their words. I want a president that takes action. I want a president that shows some emotion. That rages over certain issues. Not is a trained puppet directed to say exactly what the script writers write.
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I'm not saying Trump is right, but who holds all the bonds? In the past when debt got to the point it could never be paid back the debt was wiped clean.
Banks & the Fire Sector are not part of the real economy, they are a parasite that is sucking the wealth from the 99% to the 1%. Putting us in debt deflation, & on the road to a neofeudalism were the 99% will constantly be paying the 1% interest & rent. People that have nothing to do with a productive economy of production & consumption.
So I guess what I'm trying to say is maybe Trump has a point, he's just going about it the wrong way.
Please know I think Trump is a Box of Rocks.Last edited by khicks26; 05-10-16, 10:38 AM.Comment -
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Actually, it is a good thing to discuss with countries that we owe a lot of money to China/India/???. At the point that the USA debt hit $11 trillion dollars we have no chance to ever decrease the debt because of loans; the interest on the loans alone is too much for the USA to pay back ever year; meaning we will never be able to balance the budget ever again unless something changes with the interest rates (debt will never decrease).Comment -
The whole world holds the bonds, from sovereign govts to 401k's. If the debt was "wiped clean" that means the currecy is no good and we are all fukked. Deep depression like we have never seen.
You are incorrect about banks. They facillitate business at all levels. From investment banking, to commercial banking, to personal banking. There would be no economy without banks. If you don't agree, describe to me how you facillitate business without them.Comment -
Not true. After the tax increases and automatic spending cuts in the sequster, the following year the budget defecit shrank 42%, the largest decrease in like 40 yrs, and the debt trajectory flattened out. Since then, spending has increased and it has gone back up, but the idea that the debt is not manageable is simply untrue.Comment -
Why would the money be no good? What if the debt is written down so its payable? Are we not headed to a deep depression anyway?
I didn't say that the banks were not necessary, just not part of the real economy of production & consumption. Which means jobs & growth. Banks don't produce anything, & the 5 largest US banks are run by a white collar mafia.
They are not lending to small business, their just gambling on Wall ST, charging fees, & collecting interest from the 99%. When we crashed in 2008 they got bailout with trillions of dollars & their just sitting on it. We should have have bailout the people not the banks & crooks.
There is a public bank in North Dakota that facilitates money the right way. Is this the kind of banking you mean?
Though out history the only thing that has restored stability to an economy is debt being wiped clean or written down.
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If there were no debt, in this system, there would be no money. Every dollar created is only created upon the act of borrowing that dollar.
To pay off the national debt to the Federal Reserve would be absolutely crippling and lead to a new system.
Instead, the bankers find it's better simply to bankrupt the central bank, endure the political fallout, then start up another one.
It's not like the Federal Reserve is the US's first central bank. They've all gone bankrupt.
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A shrink in deficit is still an increase in debt.
But I was wrong about the debt to other countries; I always thought the $21 trillion in debt was to other countries but only $7 trillion is; so at 6% we pay out about $420 billion a year in interest alone, a lot better than I thought, but we can't let it increase.
The rest of the debt is within the system of the dollar and really doesn't make sense.Comment -
Indio is my new favorite poster. WOW!! That is one smart son of a bitch!!
And I like greaser. Nothing personal here, pal. But I am now officially a HUGH Indio fan. I think I need to sic him on that retarded beaver coochy!!
Also, agree with Indio 1000% on the jews
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Yeah, Indio knows all about the Creature from Jekyll Island.
Good stuff.
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Sharp points.First off, I don't even know what betpoints are, and I have no use for them, so to me, they have about as much value as a Zimbabwe dollar. Offer me $10k in a secured account, and I'll send you over 2,000 pages of what you want, including official notarized documents filed (will be the best 10k you ever spend). Otherwise, it's not worth my time.
So let me see if I understand you correctly,you think the Rothschilds and the Rockefellers don't have any significant holdings in the Federal Reserve, Bank of London, World Bank, IMF, or any other entity that controls currency of governments? It's not like it's a secret, and it certainly isn't a conspiracy theory, it's common knowledge. However, they make sure it's not talked about too much on their media channels and newspapers, and they laughably are allowed to keep it withheld from congressional audits, which is the biggest slap in the face to any American citizen. So I guess it's possible for those who are simple minded and easily controlled to believe that world currencies aren't run by globalist loan sharks.
And did you call me racist for calling the primary holders of Federal Reserve shares Jews? Well kid, that's what they are. If you're so far gone that telling the truth is racist to you, perhaps you should think long and hard as to why that is, then perhaps, you'll start to see things a little more clearly. It's obvious you're not ready to talk about things as an adult. Maybe you never will be. The choice is yours. Seek out the truth, embrace wisdom, be an independent thinker, and you too can be free. And you certainly won't ever make any interest payments on anything ever again.Comment -
Trump is already catching up to that wacky witch in battleground state after battleground state.
She should worry more about Bernie Sanders right now than Trump - because she's losing, what, 8 states in a row to him? If it weren't for backroom deals with "superdelegates", Sanders would be the nominee.
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Because the dollar is backed by nothing but the full faith and credit of the US Govt.
No we are not headed for a deep depression. We are in the latter part of the current cycle, but there isn't any indication of a "deep depression". Can you find someone to say there is? Of course you can. That is perpetual in any environment.What if the debt is written down so its payable? Are we not headed to a deep depression anyway?
I didn't say that the banks were not necessary, just not part of the real economy of production & consumption. Which means jobs & growth. Banks don't produce anything, & the 5 largest US banks are run by a white collar mafia.
Banks produce financial products and they employ millions of people. Of course they are a part of the real economy, all businesses are part of the economy.
They are not lending to smallThey do provide lending to small businesses, although they are more conservative than they were before 08-09. They charge interest on these loans because they have to make a profit, like in any business. But they are also taking the risk, what if loans aren't paid back?business, their just gambling on Wall ST, charging fees, & collecting interest from the 99%. When we crashed in 2008 they got bailout with trillions of dollars & their just sitting on it. We should have have bailout the people not the banks & crooks.
Bailouts have been paid back. https://projects.propublica.org/bailout/
However, I agree we should have had more fiscal stimulus/infrastructure improvements.
I don't know what bank you're referring to.There is a public bank in North Dakota that facilitates money the right way. Is this the kind of banking you mean?
Though out history the only thing that has restored stability to an economy is debt being wiped clean or written down.
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Answer me this batman, if the federal reserve is lending banks we borrow from at 0% interest, how can
there be interest on our debt?
That debt clock that keeps running to the tune of almost 20T is just a number. A fear projector. If that number
was backed with gold, then I'd worry, but when there's nothing to back up that debt but air, I'm not worried.Comment -
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Brooks-- either prove me wrong or at least back up your idiodic statements with an argument. This is the last time I will respond to one of your posts unless you do that. It is a waste of my time to respond to you and even though debating on the internet is an itch I like to scratch, my time is too valuable to argue with someone like yourself. Good luck in all your future endeavors.
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I've got a better I idea since you'll just ignore the facts as you've done already, I dare you to answer any of the following;Brooks-- either prove me wrong or at least back up your idiodic statements with an argument. This is the last time I will respond to one of your posts unless you do that. It is a waste of my time to respond to you and even though debating on the internet is an itch I like to scratch, my time is too valuable to argue with someone like yourself. Good luck in all your future endeavors.
What is the unemployment rate?
Did Bill Clinton leave the country with a surplus?
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That is about like me saying "Indio, it's all about wiping nursing home patients' asses"
