Ummm why didn't AZ ST go for 2?

jtoler · 01-03-16, 02:33 AM

State coach just let clock run down before he called a TO lol, looks like WV ML may win, will make up for that Oregon fiasco.

tony_come · 01-03-16, 02:33 AM

Arizona state coach is a moron

MoneyLineDawg · 01-03-16, 02:33 AM

"Hey coach why didn't you go for 2 up 5 with four minutes left in the game?"

boss_of_um · 01-03-16, 02:33 AM

Coach didn't want OT. Win or lose in regulation and end the season. Only angle I have.

SightSeer · 01-03-16, 02:34 AM

I cannot wait to hear the post game conference. I don't think the media will be as forgiving/ignorant as these broadcasters.

TwoWays · 01-03-16, 02:34 AM

This guy got to be haedcoach dumbfukk of the year no doubt! Lol

tony_come · 01-03-16, 02:34 AM

Originally posted by big joe 1212

crowd now booing because he's taking timeouts

stadium full of idiots!

After 15min running

d2bets · 01-03-16, 02:34 AM

This was almost more unbelievable than the TCU comeback. Never seen a coach not go for 2 in a comparable situation. Ever. These guys have fukkin charts. This is not one of those gray areas. That was an auto go for 2.

d2bets · 01-03-16, 02:35 AM

Originally posted by boss_of_um

Coach didn't want OT. Win or lose in regulation and end the season. Only angle I have.

So you'd rather lose in regulation than go to OT? LOL

mpaschal34 · 01-03-16, 02:37 AM

guess they new i was locked in at +1.5. no need to go for two and potentially screw up my cover by going into overtime.

had already been screwed the the TCU/ORE under in the previous game. glad it didn't happen twice in a row.

SplitAces · 01-03-16, 02:37 AM

Originally posted by d2bets

This was almost more unbelievable than the TCU comeback. Never seen a coach not go for 2 in a comparable situation. Ever. These guys have fukkin charts. This is not one of those gray areas. That was an auto go for 2.

Maybe coach went to school wth BigDeem!

GoBlue77 · 01-03-16, 02:37 AM

Originally posted by d2bets

This was almost more unbelievable than the TCU comeback. Never seen a coach not go for 2 in a comparable situation. Ever. These guys have fukkin charts. This is not one of those gray areas. That was an auto go for 2.

but watch. media is just as stupid and it may not even get mentioned after the game!

astrodomer · 01-03-16, 02:37 AM

That was crazy!! There is no reason not to go for two there!!!! WTF!!!

funnyb25 · 01-03-16, 02:37 AM

coach knew the line, only angle that makes any sense

boss_of_um · 01-03-16, 02:38 AM

Originally posted by d2bets

So you'd rather lose in regulation than go to OT? LOL

We all agree he SHOULD have gone for 2. He didn't. Hence the question asking why he didn't. It's not a poll vote of should he or shouldn't he have gone for 2.

jtoler · 01-03-16, 02:39 AM

Originally posted by BigDeem5

There is a simple reason dumbfucks

If they went for two and didn't get it. Then WVU went down and scored easily as they did and got a 2, a FG would only tie. Now it wins

Makes some sense, but Im almost 100% sure that that didnt cross his mind.

MoneyLineDawg · 01-03-16, 02:39 AM

No one's answered my simple question:

How is this possible?

So I guess the head coach is a confirmed clown but how did none of the assistants or even players say something?

Albert Pujols · 01-03-16, 02:39 AM

Originally posted by BigDeem5

There is a simple reason dumbfucks

If they went for two and didn't get it. Then WVU went down and scored easily as they did and got a 2, a FG would only tie. Now it wins

You are the stupidest sonofabitch alive. BigDumbf.uck.

funnyb25 · 01-03-16, 02:40 AM

I just want the coach to flat out say... "I bet the house on us +2.5, thats why I didnt go for 2 there"

d2bets · 01-03-16, 02:40 AM

Originally posted by jtoler

Makes some sense, but Im almost 100% sure that that didnt cross his mind.

And if it did, his mind is warped.

I assume he'll just take the blame and say that he missed it. Just slipped his mind. Any defense just makes him unqualified to coach. Anyone can make an error in the heat of the moment. But if you make the error again upon reflection, then you're a dumbass with no sense of responsibility.

yankees10 · 01-03-16, 02:40 AM

And of course they lose by 1 !!

MoneyLineDawg · 01-03-16, 02:41 AM

Originally posted by jtoler

Makes some sense, but Im almost 100% sure that that didnt cross his mind.

Potential of being up 7 vs. the downside of 6 vs. 5 in that spot is not even worth discussing

If Big Deem was serious about that post I feel bad I'm not his bookie

d2bets · 01-03-16, 02:42 AM

Originally posted by MoneyLineDawg

No one's answered my simple question:

How is this possible?

So I guess the head coach is a confirmed clown but how did none of the assistants or even players say something?

I assume he just fell asleep and missed it. But yeah, it's not even like they suddenly scored. They should have known all drive "if we score a TD, we go for 2." Coaches normally have that planned before the score happens. Basic coaching. Raise two fingers immediately.

jtoler · 01-03-16, 02:42 AM

Originally posted by funnyb25

coach knew the line, only angle that makes any sense

No doubt he knew it, been out for the longest, sure he had to know someone who had money on State, basically a home game too. Big money, Im sure those people who had State at +1.5 are happy with him win or lose.

d2bets · 01-03-16, 02:43 AM

Originally posted by MoneyLineDawg

Potential of being up 7 vs. the downside of 6 vs. 5 in that spot is not even worth discussing

If Big Deem was serious about that post I feel bad I'm not his bookie

With more time on the clock, it's a discussion. So if it's 8 or 10 minutes, personally I still go for 2, but it's not egregious not to. Under 5 minutes though is a no no no no brainer.

MoneyLineDawg · 01-03-16, 02:45 AM

Originally posted by d2bets

I assume he just fell asleep and missed it. But yeah, it's not even like they suddenly scored. They should have known all drive "if we score a TD, we go for 2." Coaches normally have that planned before the score happens. Basic coaching. Raise two fingers immediately.

Yeah but usually there is one assistant without his head up his ass.....Like how did no one speak up?

I've never seen a blunder like this I can remember so late in the game

This is the spot where it's not a question...it's an auto 2 pointer

BigDofBA · 01-03-16, 02:45 AM

Originally posted by big joe 1212

crowd now booing because he's taking timeouts

stadium full of idiots!

They're booing because he waited 20 seconds before he called the timeout. WVU ran a play with 1:26 left and then Graham set there with his head us his ass and waited until the clock got down to a minute. Then he called the timeout.

Some dumbass coaching and time mismanagement in this game. Graham wasted a timeout on a kickoff and the burned one on the final drive. Guy is a jabroni.

And hell no WVU wasn't going to kick two FGS. They only had two timeouts left and there and four minutes and some change left. No coach in America would have kicked a FG. That's why you go for 2 if you're ASU.

MoneyLineDawg · 01-03-16, 02:45 AM

Originally posted by d2bets

With more time on the clock, it's a discussion. So if it's 8 or 10 minutes, personally I still go for 2, but it's not egregious not to. Under 5 minutes though is a no no no no brainer.

Yeah I'm just saying in this exact spot

TwoWays · 01-03-16, 02:47 AM

Guy knew what's up. He's a dumbfukk probably thought that was the right move. No says shitt to him cause he's just yell at them. That basically all he did the whole game

jtoler · 01-03-16, 02:49 AM

Guy's been coaching a long time which doesnt matter, an idiot knows to go for 2 IF youre trying to win on strategy. Only thing I can see is he was protecting ASU wagers lol seriously. Go for 2 and dont make it youre up 5 and if and when WV scores a TD no doubt they are going for 2 to be up 3. Why let the ASU boosters and other bettors who got the +3 early waste all that time on a push, nah, just kick the extra point then we are up 6, even if they score a td everybody on ASU still cash their tickets. If you go to OT then all those ASU bettors are upset if they lose by a td and some who had under +3 on a field goal.

swamijoe · 01-03-16, 02:49 AM

Originally posted by jtoler

No doubt he knew it, been out for the longest, sure he had to know someone who had money on State, basically a home game too. Big money, Im sure those people who had State at +1.5 are happy with him win or lose.

I've never seen anything like this. I was yelling at my tv. I had big money on asu ml. Fycking wish I'd taken the 1.5. But again I was shocked. And I kept waiting for the moron announcers to be like that was odd or say anything but nothing. The whole thing was the worst coaching I've ever seen. Because to respond to someone else that said the crowd was dumb booing when he called timeout. Noooooo. They were booing like I was yelling at the fact the moron let 15 seconds go by n then called timeout. Wow. I don't watch too many asu games but he may be the worst coach ever. Or something very shady was going on. penetrating asshole. Who dosnt go for 2 with like 4 minutes and change to go up 7. Never ever have I seen it

MoneyLineDawg · 01-03-16, 02:52 AM

Originally posted by jtoler

Guy's been coaching a long time which doesnt matter, an idiot knows to go for 2 IF youre trying to win on strategy. Only thing I can see is he was protecting ASU wagers lol seriously. Go for 2 and dont make it youre up 5 and if and when WV scores a TD no doubt they are going for 2 to be up 3. Why let the ASU boosters and other bettors who got the +3 early waste all that time on a push, nah, just kick the extra point then we are up 6, even if they score a td everybody on ASU still cash their tickets.

That's the only semi-reasonable explanation but I still think they play to win the game above all else......That whole timeout blunder at the end just makes me think the coach is a complete fukkin moron

BigDofBA · 01-03-16, 02:52 AM

Originally posted by jtoler

Guy's been coaching a long time which doesnt matter, an idiot knows to go for 2 IF youre trying to win on strategy. Only thing I can see is he was protecting ASU wagers lol seriously. Go for 2 and dont make it youre up 5 and if and when WV scores a TD no doubt they are going for 2 to be up 3. Why let the ASU boosters and other bettors who got the +3 early waste all that time on a push, nah, just kick the extra point then we are up 6, even if they score a td everybody on ASU still cash their tickets.

You're giving Graham too much credit. He is just a dumbass.

BigDofBA · 01-03-16, 02:53 AM

Originally posted by swamijoe

I've never seen anything like this. I was yelling at my tv. I had big money on asu ml. Fycking wish I'd taken the 1.5. But again I was shocked. And I kept waiting for the moron announcers to be like that was odd or say anything but nothing. The whole thing was the worst coaching I've ever seen. Because to respond to someone else that said the crowd was dumb booing when he called timeout. Noooooo. They were booing like I was yelling at the fact the moron let 15 seconds go by n then called timeout. Wow. I don't watch too many asu games but he may be the worst coach ever. Or something very shady was going on. penetrating asshole. Who dosnt go for 2 with like 4 minutes and change to go up 7. Never ever have I seen it

Exactly. I think I just said that above....I thought he left like 20 seconds burn off. I was watching the game wondering WTF maybe he is waiting until second down. Then the dumbass calls a timeout after the playclock ran halfway down. LMAO.

d2bets · 01-03-16, 02:54 AM

Has he been asked about it yet?