If you bet 'action' on the Pirates game

[yisman]

I'm wondering what price they'll give.

Liriano replaced by Worley five minutes before first pitch. No new line released.

I believe this happened once last season.

[JS41]

Fair thing to do was use the same mline as before the change, so all those that bet action weren´t screwed over. Obviously all listed bets, totals, rlines, props etc.. No action...

[Ghenghis Kahn]

this is the reason why i never bet action.

[STAX]

wait a minute... books can cancel an action bet if the listed pitcher doesnt start????? what am I missing here?

[STAX]

whenever Im betting against a good pitcher, one that if scratched cannot be replaced by a better option, I always, ALWAYS bet action on that side just in case that pitcher gets scratched. Its a freeroll for you, why wouldnt you bet it this way?

Now you are saying the book can cancel this bet? Am I missing something here?

example: a while back I bet rockies at +170ish against Sonny Gray. I took the listed Rockies starter vrs action for the As starter. Gray got scratched so I gained a ton of value, There was no possible guy Oakland could replace him with a better option.

[TheMoneyShot]

No advantage to ever bet action. Have no clue why you would?

[TheMoneyShot]

whenever Im betting against a good pitcher, one that if scratched cannot be replaced by a better option, I always, ALWAYS bet action on that side just in case that pitcher gets scratched. Its a freeroll for you, why wouldnt you bet it this way?

Now you are saying the book can cancel this bet? Am I missing something here?

example: a while back I bet rockies at +170ish against Sonny Gray. I took the listed Rockies starter vrs action for the As starter. Gray got scratched so I gained a ton of value, There was no possible guy Oakland could replace him with a better option.

You have to give the books time to adjust the line. There's no advantage in wagering a line with action. All it means.... your wager will stand no matter what.

For instance... if you wagered 500 on action at -150... and then the pitcher gets scratched... the new guy comes in at -190. You still have action on the -190 (new opening line) risking 500.

[Ra77er]

It messes with numbers, not a good idea to bet action.

[paco]

No advantage to ever bet action. Have no clue why you would?

With listed pitchers, this woulda went from 4teamer to just a 2 teamer. With action, It just canceled out the total down to a 3 teamer. I woulda took Brewers regardless today so I guess this is a reason to ur question.

[Ghenghis Kahn]

With listed pitchers, this woulda went from 4teamer to just a 2 teamer. With action, It just canceled out the total down to a 3 teamer. I woulda took Brewers regardless today so I guess this is a reason to ur question.

never seen this clown post before the games...

[STAX]

You have to give the books time to adjust the line. There's no advantage in wagering a line with action. All it means.... your wager will stand no matter what.

For instance... if you wagered 500 on action at -150... and then the pitcher gets scratched... the new guy comes in at -190. You still have action on the -190 (new opening line) risking 500.

Im confused... so when you bet action and guy gets scratched, your original line doesnt stand and you just automatically get the new price? If so, Ive had this wrong, I always thought when you bet action you get the original price regardless.

[paco]

never seen this clown post before the games...

He asked why someone would take action over listed, and i answered. Get some fresh air man

i posted plays for over 3 years, prolly highest win % of any poster and thread to prove it . I just don't post plays anymore

[Ra77er]

Im confused... so when you bet action and guy gets scratched, your original line doesnt stand, you just automatically get the new price?

[BigDeem5]

Lol Paco still past posting

[TheMoneyShot]

He asked why someone would take action over listed, and i answered. Get some fresh air man

i posted plays for over 3 years, prolly highest win % of any poster and thread to prove it . I just don't post plays anymore

But Paco... what do you believe is the advantage though? Because you wanted a 4 team to go through? They still would adjust the opening line of that leg of your parlay. Now totals is totally different... that's like playing roulette. You might select the Over 8 and the next pitcher might be a bum... and you'd win easily. Ok. That would work. What if it didn't work out that way though? I just don't want to put the new line in the books hands. I'd rather see the new line move a little... see what the public is doing.

[STAX]

no shit, i never knew that. what about totals? Say total is o/u 6 runs for Kershaw vrs Sherzer, and I take over 6 action. Both get scratched, then what?

[TheMoneyShot]

Im confused... so when you bet action and guy gets scratched, your original line doesnt stand and you just automatically get the new price? If so, Ive had this wrong, I always thought when you bet action you get the original price regardless.

Yes, that's correct. The book opening line of that pitcher is the line you'd get. But does every book tell the truth as to what the opening line is?

[STAX]

Yes, that's correct. The book opening line of that pitcher is the line you'd get. But does every book tell the truth as to what the opening line is?

yeah no shit, im sure they would screw you by a few pts for sure

[TheMoneyShot]

Im confused... so when you bet action and guy gets scratched, your original line doesnt stand and you just automatically get the new price? If so, Ive had this wrong, I always thought when you bet action you get the original price regardless.

I thought like you did.... many years ago. Pedro Martinez was coming back from an injury. I knew he would pitch the next day. The line was for a different pitcher at -160. I knew Pedro would be at least -220. I took action. Pedro won easily. When the book paid me... it wasn't even close to what I expected. I learned the hard way and said FUK THIS SH#$. No point of betting action.

So I layed like 800 on -160.... it ended up being 800 -220. I was pissed off.

[STAX]

I thought like you did.... many years ago. Pedro Martinez was coming back from an injury. I knew he would pitch the next day. The line was for a different pitcher at -160. I knew Pedro would be at least -220. I took action. Pedro won easily. When the book paid me... it wasn't even close to what I expected. I learned the hard way and said FUK THIS SH#$. No point of betting action.

So I layed like 800 on -160.... it ended up being 800 -220. I was pissed off.

Thanks for clearing it up. This is my first year betting baseball so luckily I didnt have to learn the hard way. What about totals and Runlines? work the same way?

[TheMoneyShot]

Thanks for clearing it up. This is my first year betting baseball so luckily I didnt have to learn the hard way. What about totals and Runlines? work the same way?

No problem. Glad to help you out. I never wagered a game on totals with a scratched pitcher. I would only assume the o/u would stand. Unless someone else could answer this. Paco would know. He just wagered the game with totals involved.

[paco]

No problem. Glad to help you out. I never wagered a game on totals with a scratched pitcher. I would only assume the o/u would stand. Unless someone else could answer this. Paco would know. He just wagered the game with totals involved.

No, totals are automatically voided with scratched pitchers.

[Ghenghis Kahn]

He asked why someone would take action over listed, and i answered. Get some fresh air man

i posted plays for over 3 years, prolly highest win % of any poster and thread to prove it . I just don't post plays anymore

ask me if i give a shit if anyone posts plays or not? it just irks me when people post shit after the games are over.

[ROFLcopter]

With listed pitchers, this woulda went from 4teamer to just a 2 teamer. With action, It just canceled out the total down to a 3 teamer. I woulda took Brewers regardless today so I guess this is a reason to ur question.

Same shit happened to me

http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/players-talk/3120073-fukkin-pu-bag-liriano-just-cost-me-over-3k.html

[LT Profits]

so when you bet action and guy gets scratched, your original line doesnt stand and you just automatically get the new price?

Correct.

[LT Profits]

What about totals and Runlines? work the same way?

No, those are automatic refunds with any pitching change. You do not have an "Action" option for Totals and/or Run Lines

[Robber]

All these years and people still don't know the rules regarding mlb betting.

The stupidity of the human race is infinite.

Still moronic squares think they can take a free shot at the books by betting action.

Try reading one of the hundreds of threads at sbr about it.

[Plaza23]

The only advantage to betting action is if you are away from a computer or casino and can't get a bet in on time if the starter gets scratched but you are for sure going to bet that team regardless who starts.

Lot of times people bet action when they bet a great team vs a bad team. You don't want your bet getting cancelled if the bad teams swaps one bad starter out for another and you don't have time to get another bet in.

[upscope]

For totals books automatically list pitchers

[STAX]

All these years and people still don't know the rules regarding mlb betting.

The stupidity of the human race is infinite.

Still moronic squares think they can take a free shot at the books by betting action.

Try reading one of the hundreds of threads at sbr about it.

Yeah man you got it, the human race is doomed because one guy (me) missunderstood what action was during his first 3 months of lifetime MLB betting. Overreact much? You probably just lost a bet and need to kick the dog to make yourself feel big. It's OK, I'll be your dog tonight. I'll hold off judging you till after you apologize...

[Robber]

Stax should apologize for being an uninformed idiot

He's the kind of mongoloid who will tell you he's the greatest poker player and sports bettor ever, but he's too lazy and stupid to even do the basic reading on the subject.

Dozens of threads on sbr in the last year about listed vs. action, yet he remains as clueless as ever.

[upscope]

Stax should apologize for being an uninformed idiot

He's the kind of mongoloid who will tell you he's the greatest poker player and sports bettor ever, but he's too lazy and stupid to even do the basic reading on the subject.

Dozens of threads on sbr in the last year about listed vs. action, yet he remains as clueless as ever.

Douche much??

You're all bent out of shape because somebody that has been betting baseball for all of 3 months didn't clearly understand the pro/con to action rather than listed

Get a life!

[TheMoneyShot]

Honestly... It's a retarded rule. I want to know who was the a$$hole who made action/listed pitchers in vegas back in the day?

[CappinTerp]

If you are a good caper in baseball,betting listed pitchers is the only way to go.!!

[Robber]

wait a minute... books can cancel an action bet if the listed pitcher doesnt start????? what am I missing here?

Brain cells.