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  • jjgold
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 07-20-05
    • 388179

    #1
    Phils/KC Live Dogs
  • Big Bear
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 11-01-11
    • 43253

    #2
    will fade both
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    • jjgold
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 07-20-05
      • 388179

      #3
      Bear I dare you to fade me

      I've been a very consistent handicapper if you look at my spreadsheet and I think it would be a very dangerous decision on your part to go against me here
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      • KVB
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 05-29-14
        • 74817

        #4
        KC not as live as you would think.

        And here's one even the sharpest of stats gatherers may not be able to generate...how many times does an actual live dog that is in the first spot on the betting rotation pay the bettor?

        I suppose you have to know what "live dog" means first, and that probably varies, especially among posters in this Forum.

        Good Luck

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        • kidcudi92
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 12-14-11
          • 15434

          #5
          jj dont bet live MLB its not for you
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          • Big Bear
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 11-01-11
            • 43253

            #6
            Originally posted by jjgold
            Bear I dare you to fade me

            I've been a very consistent handicapper if you look at my spreadsheet and I think it would be a very dangerous decision on your part to go against me here






            can't back these 2....
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            • jjgold
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 07-20-05
              • 388179

              #7
              Bear They are momentum plays
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              • Ra77er
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 06-20-11
                • 10969

                #8
                Good luck today
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                • Big Bear
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 11-01-11
                  • 43253

                  #9
                  Originally posted by jjgold
                  Bear They are momentum plays
                  what else do you like ?
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                  • jjgold
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 07-20-05
                    • 388179

                    #10
                    I only like two plays tonight as the board is very small and I just don't like the matchups
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                    • Ra77er
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 06-20-11
                      • 10969

                      #11
                      Originally posted by KVB
                      KC not as live as you would think.

                      And here's one even the sharpest of stats gatherers may not be able to generate...how many times does an actual live dog that is in the first spot on the betting rotation pay the bettor?

                      I suppose you have to know what "live dog" means first, and that probably varies, especially among posters in this Forum.

                      Good Luck


                      Number not good enough on KC.

                      Let me ask this, if you could get KC +130 would you bet it?
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                      • jjgold
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 07-20-05
                        • 388179

                        #12
                        Kc one of better teams in baseball

                        It never hurts to bet them as a dog
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                        • KVB
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 05-29-14
                          • 74817

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Ra77er
                          Number not good enough on KC.

                          Let me ask this, if you could get KC +130 would you bet it?
                          Probably not. It all depends on circumstances. Right now, in this situation, if the line suddenly moved to KC +130, I would, for various reasons, actually consider the other side.

                          If it had opened at +130 or even +140 it would be interesting.

                          That said I simply don't like KC to pay out tonight. Money talks, and I suppose the any team could be bought at the right price, but that can neglect an important part of market analysis...why is the price where it is?

                          Often times we see a lag time between a team’s actual performance and the reflected market price. Because of this, KC has recently been off in price…of course, this depends on who they are playing and how that team is also being “priced.”

                          I believe the market is catching up to or even has caught up to KC. Because most bettors can’t create their own valid money line and because KC is an underdog again, many bettors don’t see that the market has caught up…”is catching up” may be a better way to put it, leaves me open for a little error.

                          The bettors who sold out KC yesterday may turn around and buy them today while those same type of guys will look for a let down from Houston after squeaking by yesterday.

                          Generally, this type of betting behavior, while sometimes successful in the short term, will hurt the bettor over the long haul.

                          Finally, the concept of live dog should be addressed. I’ve written enough for this post, but perhaps readers should make a list of the things that actually make up a “live dog.” These would be things like price (obviously needs to be an underdog), home road, pitchers, etc.

                          Is KC really in that type of spot tonight, or is it just perceived?

                          Good Luck

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                          • Ra77er
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 06-20-11
                            • 10969

                            #14
                            thank you KVB. Never bump this thread ever again.
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                            • LEOLEO
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 02-13-13
                              • 664

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Big Bear






                              can't back these 2....
                              win or lose


                              PRIMO IS WITH BEAR here
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                              • birdman24
                                SBR MVP
                                • 10-13-09
                                • 2135

                                #16
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                                • jjgold
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 07-20-05
                                  • 388179

                                  #17
                                  men you guys were right

                                  Both going to lose
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                                  • GT21Megatron
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 12-20-13
                                    • 10818

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by jjgold
                                    men you guys were right

                                    Both going to lose
                                    Anymore late night gems/ sharpe plays?
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                                    • jjgold
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 07-20-05
                                      • 388179

                                      #19
                                      I'll have a better card tomorrow


                                      I tried to push some plays and look what happened to the betting board was too small
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                                      • ithinkiamgood
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 10-30-13
                                        • 2211

                                        #20
                                        keep em coming Baldy
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                                        • Big Bear
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 11-01-11
                                          • 43253

                                          #21
                                          anybody on these 2 squads today?
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                                          • jjgold
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 07-20-05
                                            • 388179

                                            #22
                                            Bear it might be a good idea to come back with them
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                                            • Big Bear
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 11-01-11
                                              • 43253

                                              #23
                                              Chad Billingsley on the mound today. He could be worth a look.


                                              Royals a favorite with Chris Young on the bump but he should get a victory today.
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                                              • KVB
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 05-29-14
                                                • 74817

                                                #24
                                                Sitting on Kansas City -148 with Young tonight. The spurt of underdog days are over and bettors still can't figure out KC.

                                                To some this number too sharp to decide, to others, there indications to buy.

                                                We got this.

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                                                • jjgold
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 07-20-05
                                                  • 388179

                                                  #25
                                                  KC due

                                                  Chasing dangerous though
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                                                  • Ra77er
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 06-20-11
                                                    • 10969

                                                    #26
                                                    KVB I concur and took them at -145.

                                                    Also watching Casey Kassum in west virginia
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