Donald Trump To Run For President in 2016!!!!!!!!

[rkelly110]

they can't under obama. Fact. They could under bush.


"they 1% were already rich under bush jr"


that is why the global wealth gap has grown to widest margin under Obama. Use logic jay.

How do you fig, jig. The margin still might be great, but Obama stopped the bleeding.

Bush's (dep) recession not only fukked us, but the world. Millions laid off, a corporations wet dream. More
people looking creates less demand for help, so they pay them less, while their profits go through the roof.
Same thing happened under Reagan's recession.

You guys can't wait until Obama gets out, but you will wish for the days he was in office. You laugh now, but I will
have the final laugh.

[brooks85]

How do you fig, jig. The margin still might be great, but Obama stopped the bleeding.

Bush's (dep) recession not only fukked us, but the world. Millions laid off, a corporations wet dream. More
people looking creates less demand for help, so they pay them less, while their profits go through the roof.
Same thing happened under Reagan's recession.

You guys can't wait until Obama gets out, but you will wish for the days he was in office. You laugh now, but I will
have the final laugh.

how is that? We both know you can't answer this question and you knew you couldn't before you even posted. Why do you do that?


also just so you know, Bill clinton and democrats own more of the blame for the recession. Bush at least was against it first before he caved in but even at that point it didn't matter. Already way too many loans out there to families who did not deserve them thanks to democrats. Even liberal SNL made fun of it, believe it was one of their intros. Very funny.

[rkelly110]

One word. Stimulus.

[brooks85]

lol you and your my truths

[DwightShrute]

One word. Stimulus.

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[MoMoneyMoVaughn]

[DwightShrute]

One word. Stimulus.

you will believe just about anything that someone claims Obama did right. All he did was use your money to bail out crooks and make pharmaceutical companies rich with Obamacare . Brilliant.

Iceland did it much better.

[jtoler]

you will believe just about anything that someone claims Obama did right. All he did was use your money to bail out crooks and make pharmaceutical companies rich with Obamacare . Brilliant.

Iceland did it much better.

Not exactly, got about 9 months with 6 of them suspended. Theyed been better off had they created money out of thin air and bailed out the banks instead of going into massive debt. Most of what people said about Iceland was a lie.

[DwightShrute]

Not exactly, got about 9 months with 6 of them suspended. Theyed been better off had they created money out of thin air and bailed out the banks instead of going into massive debt. Most of what people said about Iceland was a lie.

[MoMoneyMoVaughn]

Iceland had 300,000 people to bail out.

Not 300,000,000

The scale and scope make the situations similar but incomparable.

[jtoler]

Thats more than before when this was really news then this just happened a couple months ago, I didnt know about those, still a slap on the wrist, 26 bankers for a total of 74 years.

[DwightShrute]

Iceland had 300,000 people to bail out.

Not 300,000,000

The scale and scope make the situations similar but incomparable.

i wasn't saying it's an exact perfect comparison but it's in the same ballpark. As is your 300 million comment. We all know it wasn't close to that number.

[MoMoneyMoVaughn]

i wasn't saying it's an exact perfect comparison but it's in the same ballpark. As is your 300 million comment. We all know it wasn't close to that number.

Wait what?

The population of the United States isn't 300 million or so?

[DwightShrute]

That's more than before when this was really news then this just happened a couple months ago, I didn't know about those, still a slap on the wrist, 26 bankers for a total of 74 years.

ya but still 74 more years that what the US gave. Plus, I think those rating agencies like Standard and Poors should have been prosecuted. They rated junk mortgages as AAA ones.

[DwightShrute]

Wait what?

The population of the United States isn't 300 million or so?

are you saying the US would had to bailout 300 million people for the subprime mortgage mess? I am confused maybe. I think it was around 1 million homes were foreclosed. Many people owned several homes because it was so easy.

[MoMoneyMoVaughn]

are you saying the US would had to bailout 300 million people for the subprime mortgage mess? I am confused maybe. I think it was around 1 million homes were foreclosed. Many people owned several homes because it was so easy.

Oh I see what you are saying.

Well I was merely comparing the populations of the two countries. Iceland is 100 times smaller was my point which, I will admit, became convoluted given the context of the discussion.

I don't believe that the Icelandic crisis had much to do with subprime lending but I believe had more to do with the way in which their banks were financed which prevented effective refinancing when their foreign debt became overwhelming.

I am not an economist though.

I do know that the Icelandic financial crisis manifested itself in different ways than the American equivalent which had much to do with their market's structure. I am pretty sure they have a lot more p3s there also.

I was there immediately before the crisis began and was amazed at the value of their currency relative to ours and didn't quite understand how it could be so. We now know it was incredibly overvalued because of the incentives they provided to foreign debtors to aid in the financing of Icelandic banks.

Interesting stuff though, the comparison between the two situations.

[DwightShrute]

ya I know there are different situations. I was just pointing out how differently both countries governments dealt with these people. Iceland prosecuted them and in some cases kicked them out of the country. The US didn't.

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[rkelly110]

USA- stimulus, better economy. Europe- austerity, shit economy. 'nough said.

Repubs bitch about the economy, but didn't lift a finger to help it after the stimulus. You guys bought the spin job.
You're blaming the wrong man, it's the 500+ you should be bitching about and that's what I do.

[MoMoneyMoVaughn]

ya I know there are different situations. I was just pointing out how differently both countries governments dealt with these people. Iceland prosecuted them and in some cases kicked them out of the country. The US didn't.

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That is a good point.

I wasn't even really tackling the question at hand lol.

I guess I felt like writing 200 words about something more intellectually stimulating than the NBA.

[MoMoneyMoVaughn]

USA- stimulus, better economy. Europe- austerity, shit economy. 'nough said.

Repubs bitch about the economy, but didn't lift a finger to help it after the stimulus. You guys bought the spin job.
You're blaming the wrong man, it's the 500+ you should be bitching about and that's what I do.

I don't think its fair to say that Europe's economies are shit.

There are some shit economies but the German especially is very large, efficient and diversified.

I once took a course in university on German economics, which is strange because I was not an economics student.

French, English and Italian also decently large.

[DwightShrute]

USA- stimulus, better economy. Europe- austerity, shit economy. 'nough said.

Repubs bitch about the economy, but didn't lift a finger to help it after the stimulus. You guys bought the spin job.
You're blaming the wrong man, it's the 500+ you should be bitching about and that's what I do.

I don't believe it. Someone one said austerity doesn't work and people repeat it. Just like "the customer is always right" and "defense wins championships". Everyone knows none of them are true.

The US is 19 trillion in debt and growing.

[jtoler]

I don't think its fair to say that Europe's economies are shit.

There are some shit economies but the German especially is very large, efficient and diversified.

I once took a course in university on German economics, which is strange because I was not an economics student.

French, English and Italian also decently large.

You sure Mo? I havent read about Germany in awhile, but last I read they were accepting every migrant from Syria and Libya they could to boost manufacturing, a good economy doesnt do that I dont think.

[MoMoneyMoVaughn]

I don't believe it. Someone one said austerity doesn't work and people repeat it. Just like "the customer is always right" and "defense wins championships". Everyone knows none of them are true.

The US is 19 trillion in debt and growing.

Defence does win championships sometimes dwight.

[jtoler]

Austerity doesnt work for a country if done by imf and/or world bank, they arnt meant to work.

[MoMoneyMoVaughn]

You sure Mo? I havent read about Germany in awhile, but last I read they were accepting every migrant Libya they could to boost manufacturing, a good economy doesnt do that I dont think.

It has less to do with economic strength and more to do with Germans not wanting to work manufacturing jobs. Many ethnic germans are highly educated and want service sector desk jobs that are better paying and less physically taxing. The German manufacturing industry is vibrant and requires a ton of labour that the German citizens themselves can no longer meet that demand for labour. The immigration tends to be in order to fill the positions that traditionally Germans would have taken 20 years ago but are no longer interested in.

It is similar in Canada which is actually the most educated country in the world.¹ Most have degrees and do not want jobs in the manufacturing or resource sectors so we allow for a large number of immigrants in order to meet these labour demands.

¹Veiled brag alert.

[rkelly110]

I don't think its fair to say that Europe's economies are shit.

There are some shit economies but the German especially is very large, efficient and diversified.

I once took a course in university on German economics, which is strange because I was not an economics student.

French, English and Italian also decently large.

I like what germany did. Instead of massive layoffs, they cut hours and the govt supplemented those lost hours,
instead of what we did and dump millions on the doorstep of the govt.

Germany's companies don't desert their country either, like us. Our companies that left, are traitors and should
never be allowed to do business in the US again.

The almighty buck rules here. Fuk the govt and or it's people.

[MoMoneyMoVaughn]

I like what germany did. Instead of massive layoffs, they cut hours and the govt supplemented those lost hours,
instead of what we did and dump millions on the doorstep of the govt.

Germany's companies don't desert their country either, like us. Our companies that left, are traitors and should
never be allowed to do business in the US again.

The almighty buck rules here. Fuk the govt and or it's people.

Yes this is exactly right to the best of my knowledge. Corporate culture is very different there, as is their economic culture. They actually encourage networks between competitors and facilitate if not encourage cartel-like behaviour.

German economic practices are fascinating.

[jtoler]

It has less to do with economic strength and more to do with Germans not wanting to work manufacturing jobs. Many ethnic germans are highly educated and want service sector desk jobs that are better paying and less physically taxing. The German manufacturing industry is vibrant and requires a ton of labour that the German citizens themselves can no longer meet that demand for labour. The immigration tends to be in order to fill the positions that traditionally Germans would have taken 20 years ago but are no longer interested in.

It is similar in Canada which is actually the most educated country in the world.¹ Most have degrees and do not want jobs in the manufacturing or resource sectors so we allow for a large number of immigrants in order to meet these labour demands.

¹Veiled brag alert.

Ahh ok, good stuff.

[DwightShrute]

Defence does win championships sometimes dwight.

agreed but not all the time. I am not trying to argue. I think you know that. Not sure why I said it then lol. I mean you could make a case that defense won the SB last year but you could also make a case that many key plays during the entire game helped decide the game.

It's like saying stimulus works all the time or austerity works all the time. We all know blanket statements like that just aren't true. Too many other factors to take into consideration.

[MoMoneyMoVaughn]

agreed but not all the time. I am not trying to argue. I think you know that. Not sure why I said it then lol. I mean you could make a case that defense won the SB last year but you could also make a case that many key plays during the entire game helped decide the game.

It's like saying stimulus works all the time or austerity works all the time. We all know blanket statements like that just aren't true. Too many other factors to take into consideration.

This is true. I was just making a joke.

Blanket statements about most things never work. There are always variables and the inevitable pitfalls of generalizing.

Defence doesn't win championships in cycling.

[DwightShrute]

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[Jayvegas420]

Dwight, can you post a picture of yourself, wearing a ski mask?



Asking for a friend.
Thanx

[DwightShrute]

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[DwightShrute]

[ACoochy]

This fukkin clown

Shruter backing a clown who's already ready to pull the pin on his campaign and is still flogging a dead horse...

Shruter there should be a definition in the dictionary for guys like you