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  • bigballa
    SBR Sharp
    • 10-18-12
    • 429

    #1
    Lebron MVP...no matter who wins?
    looking around at odds and most places have steph well odds on to take the mvp, which makes sense considering they are big favs for the title and there hasnt been an mvp from a losing team in what 40 years? more? still cant get around it though has to go to lebron, you take him out they are losing by 30+ a night.....thoughts?
  • Fishhead
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 08-11-05
    • 40179

    #2
    Watching these finals is a great indication of how the talent level in the NBA just sucks these days.

    Curry and Lebron have been the best players in league last 3 years.......how dreadful for a league that once featured legendary figures.

    Lebron very good, if not great, but just not an exciting player to watch.......and of course, he has all the baggage he has scattered in his tenure in the league.
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    • VegasPlayer
      SBR MVP
      • 07-27-09
      • 3676

      #3
      Kids league now. By the time they learn how to play defense and the 24 clock, it's too late cause they're burned out and broke down. They also know they're gettin paid no matter what...
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      • Fishhead
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 08-11-05
        • 40179

        #4
        Originally posted by VegasPlayer
        Kids league now. By the time they learn how to play defense and the 24 clock, it's too late cause they're burned out and broke down. They also know they're gettin paid no matter what...
        Good points
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        • nelsonrc24
          SBR MVP
          • 04-02-13
          • 1578

          #5
          Averaging 30+pts 10+rebs and 8ast per game...you gotta win the MVP! Specially when theres no one even close. Not to mention hes playing with a bunch of scrubs.
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          • slacker00
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 10-06-05
            • 12262

            #6
            5Dimes has a prop about this:

            Sun 6/14 15039 MVP is from winning team <input id="editx" name="M1_24" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> -1200
            8:00PM 15040 MVP is from losing team <input id="editx" name="M2_24" size="4" style="font-size: 1em; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(68, 68, 68);"> +600
            At those odds, I'll lay the wood and say MVP is from the winning team.

            Obviously if the Cavs win, Lebron is the MVP, so that's an easy bet win that has ~25% equity or whatever anyone wants to assess for the Cavs at this point.

            But if GS wins, the voters will try to find a way to give it to Steph or maybe Klay/Iggy/Dray can blow it up in the last 2/3 games and grab it. For Lebron to get MVP, everything has to go perfect, he's gotta continue to post up the mind boggling numbers as well as GS's starters need to chop their numbers and get heavy bench production to dilute their numbers. Steph almost needs to disappear not to win MVP if GS wins. I think Lebron has an outside chance of "stealing" the MVP if anyone ever could in the modern era, but at these odds, I'm betting against it.
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            • Fishhead
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 08-11-05
              • 40179

              #7
              Originally posted by nelsonrc24
              Averaging 30+pts 10+rebs and 8ast per game...you gotta win the MVP! Specially when theres no one even close. Not to mention hes playing with a bunch of scrubs.

              Doesnt matter


              Curry the favorite right now, and will be more so if the Warriors win tonight, even if Lebron has another triple double.

              Lebron stats skewed anyways.
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              • nelsonrc24
                SBR MVP
                • 04-02-13
                • 1578

                #8
                Yeah, but tell me who's been better!
                I just hope they fukking win in Oakland.
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                • goofyre
                  SBR MVP
                  • 04-20-10
                  • 1933

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Fishhead
                  Watching these finals is a great indication of how the talent level in the NBA just sucks these days.

                  Curry and Lebron have been the best players in league last 3 years.......how dreadful for a league that once featured legendary figures.

                  Lebron very good, if not great, but just not an exciting player to watch.......and of course, he has all the baggage he has scattered in his tenure in the league.
                  Curry has not been one of the best players in the league the last 3 years. Lebron absolutely, but not Curry.
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                  • texhooper
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 01-05-09
                    • 10001

                    #10
                    definitely not if they lose the next two games, which i think is a strong possibility. you can't lose 4-2 and still be the mvp of the finals.
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                    • jjgold
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 07-20-05
                      • 388179

                      #11
                      Originally posted by texhooper
                      definitely not if they lose the next two games, which i think is a strong possibility. you can't lose 4-2 and still be the mvp of the finals.

                      exactly

                      maybe if it goes 7 and he has more monster games
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                      • Vinnie Paz
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 03-27-12
                        • 12177

                        #12
                        They are not giving MVP to someone on the losing team. Doesn't happen and won't. Happened with jerry west but won't again. How can you be MVP if you lost? How valuable are you really?

                        Iggy should be MVP maybe
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                        • meader99
                          SBR MVP
                          • 10-30-10
                          • 4223

                          #13
                          No.
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                          • jjgold
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 07-20-05
                            • 388179

                            #14
                            It seems we have a lot of rookies here which is okay I can tolerate them do you people realize the series is tied 2–2 and you're already giving and MVPs out?
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                            • bigballa
                              SBR Sharp
                              • 10-18-12
                              • 429

                              #15
                              jesus euro books have lost their minds....lebron and curry pickem for mvp at mighty 365
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                              • raiders72001
                                Senior Member
                                • 08-10-05
                                • 11144

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Fishhead
                                Doesnt matter


                                Curry the favorite right now, and will be more so if the Warriors win tonight, even if Lebron has another triple double.

                                Lebron stats skewed anyways.
                                You make a good point on stats being skewed.
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                                • greenhippo
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 02-15-12
                                  • 9091

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by bigballa
                                  jesus euro books have lost their minds....lebron and curry pickem for mvp at mighty 365
                                  They must be anticipating a big Cavs win on Tuesday...
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                                  • bigballa
                                    SBR Sharp
                                    • 10-18-12
                                    • 429

                                    #18
                                    i mean like i said earlier i am all for lebron but you cant be pickem on them......west was the last/only guy to win a finals mvp on the losing side in 1969, where do they get pick'em?? fans vote for mvp yeah?
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                                    • nyplayer33
                                      Restricted User
                                      • 09-27-06
                                      • 8303

                                      #19
                                      If we r basing the mvp is best plaer in the series..then he gets it..curry was great game 5..but that is not the series
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                                      • nyplayer33
                                        Restricted User
                                        • 09-27-06
                                        • 8303

                                        #20
                                        iggy isnt getting it..missing 9 free throws in a row lol
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                                        • yydouble
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 05-30-11
                                          • 1240

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by slacker00
                                          5Dimes has a prop about this:



                                          At those odds, I'll lay the wood and say MVP is from the winning team.

                                          Obviously if the Cavs win, Lebron is the MVP, so that's an easy bet win that has ~25% equity or whatever anyone wants to assess for the Cavs at this point.

                                          But if GS wins, the voters will try to find a way to give it to Steph or maybe Klay/Iggy/Dray can blow it up in the last 2/3 games and grab it. For Lebron to get MVP, everything has to go perfect, he's gotta continue to post up the mind boggling numbers as well as GS's starters need to chop their numbers and get heavy bench production to dilute their numbers. Steph almost needs to disappear not to win MVP if GS wins. I think Lebron has an outside chance of "stealing" the MVP if anyone ever could in the modern era, but at these odds, I'm betting against it.
                                          Could not agree more,
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                                          • yydouble
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 05-30-11
                                            • 1240

                                            #22
                                            Is there a possibility of Co-MVP's?

                                            If so how do bets settle?
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                                            • jjgold
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 07-20-05
                                              • 388179

                                              #23
                                              slight shot only if it goes 7
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                                              • KuLaPhU
                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                • 10-21-10
                                                • 725

                                                #24
                                                Give LBJ the MVP coz' he won't get the championship this year.
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                                                • jjgold
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 07-20-05
                                                  • 388179

                                                  #25
                                                  Iggy or Curry -8000 to win
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                                                  • GIVEMETHEMONEY
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 12-13-12
                                                    • 8428

                                                    #26
                                                    No way Le suck Bron James is MVP.

                                                    He couldn't make any shots in the last 1:30 when they needed it the most.

                                                    Chock and puke, choke and puke.
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                                                    • slacker00
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 10-06-05
                                                      • 12262

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by yydouble
                                                      Is there a possibility of Co-MVP's?

                                                      If so how do bets settle?
                                                      Never thought of this, good question. Has there ever been co-MVP for a major sport championship? It could be a first.
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                                                      • amrit
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 10-30-12
                                                        • 1307

                                                        #28
                                                        I think books expect LeBron to win finals MVP in a losing effort.
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                                                        • slacker00
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 10-06-05
                                                          • 12262

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by amrit
                                                          I think books expect LeBron to win finals MVP in a losing effort.
                                                          Based on what? The lines I've seen have prop as a heavy long shot.
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                                                          • amrit
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 10-30-12
                                                            • 1307

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by slacker00
                                                            Based on what? The lines I've seen have prop as a heavy long shot.
                                                            Bet365 has Lebron to wins Finals MVP at -110 right now. Curry is -110 as well.
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                                                            • MoMoneyMoVaughn
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 05-08-14
                                                              • 14988

                                                              #31
                                                              He will not get Jerry West'd. Its just not how things work these days.

                                                              He will probably get Kanye West'd instead.

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                                                              • nelsonrc24
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 04-02-13
                                                                • 1578

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by GIVEMETHEMONEY
                                                                No way Le suck Bron James is MVP.

                                                                He couldn't make any shots in the last 1:30 when they needed it the most.

                                                                Chock and puke, choke and puke.

                                                                LOL! What a moron! He's the real MVP!
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                                                                • Jeffie
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 04-06-12
                                                                  • 3428

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by nelsonrc24
                                                                  LOL! What a moron! He's the real MVP!
                                                                  yeah what a moron he is for stating the obvious.
                                                                  Lets give lebron the MVP when hes shooting 37% and being non existant late in games.
                                                                  You cannot make this stuff up. "Take lebron off the team and they lose by 30"
                                                                  yeah no shet take any super star off a team and they get blown out.
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                                                                  • jjgold
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 07-20-05
                                                                    • 388179

                                                                    #34
                                                                    LeBron is a horrible late game player unlike Curry that crushes you
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                                                                    • TheMoneyShot
                                                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                      • 02-14-07
                                                                      • 28672

                                                                      #35
                                                                      James with MONSTER numbers. But you can't give him the award.
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