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  • nash13
    SBR MVP
    • 01-21-14
    • 1122

    #1
    two short questions
    1. i strongly believe that temperature has an influence to the outcome of a baseball game. how do you research that properly? do you have a website where the exact temperature over a game or at the beginning with forecast can be found?

    2. what is your best resource for line up changes/confirmations in major sports like NBA? or else

    thanks for any help
  • LT Profits
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 10-27-06
    • 90963

    #2
    #2 is Baseball Press

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    • LT Profits
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 10-27-06
      • 90963

      #3
      Oops, thought you were talking strictly MLB. Sorry.
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      • statnerds
        SBR MVP
        • 09-23-09
        • 4047

        #4
        Originally posted by nash13
        1. i strongly believe that temperature has an influence to the outcome of a baseball game. how do you research that properly? do you have a website where the exact temperature over a game or at the beginning with forecast can be found?
        one another site that will go unmentioned here i started a thread about global warming (sham) and Unders in MLB when temp at first pitch is under 50.

        i'll get some data and post it sometime.
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        • A4K
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 10-08-12
          • 5243

          #5
          Originally posted by statnerds
          one another site that will go unmentioned here i started a thread about global warming (sham) and Unders in MLB when temp at first pitch is under 50.

          i'll get some data and post it sometime.
          Fuq, me. I'd love to see those numbers.
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          • nash13
            SBR MVP
            • 01-21-14
            • 1122

            #6
            I can share one. If the temperature is somewhat below 70 and we have a home underdog below 200. the over under record since 2004 has been 1204-1008. with 85 units profit. The problem here is to find accurate weather data throughout the game. maybe connect it to pitcher information.
            however it has been not very profitable last year. but it may be something to work around. maybe taking data for wind conditions into account.
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            • A4K
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 10-08-12
              • 5243

              #7
              Originally posted by nash13
              I can share one. If the temperature is somewhat below 70 and we have a home underdog below 200. the over under record since 2004 has been 1204-1008. with 85 units profit. The problem here is to find accurate weather data throughout the game. maybe connect it to pitcher information.
              however it has been not very profitable last year. but it may be something to work around. maybe taking data for wind conditions into account.

              Interesting
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              • evo34
                SBR MVP
                • 11-09-08
                • 1032

                #8
                For current weather: http://dailybaseballdata.com/cgi-bin/weather.pl
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                • statnerds
                  SBR MVP
                  • 09-23-09
                  • 4047

                  #9
                  47-40 (0.40, 54.0%) avg line: -126.7 / 114.9 on / against: -$12 / -$418 ROI: -0.1% / -4.4%
                  38-48 (-0.14, 44.2%) avg line: 127.4 / -140.2 on / against: -$252 / -$130 ROI: -2.7% / -1.0%
                  37-47-2 (-0.21, 44.0%) avg total: 8.0 over / under: -$1,385 / +$595 ROI: -14.8% / +6.2%
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                  • statnerds
                    SBR MVP
                    • 09-23-09
                    • 4047

                    #10
                    last year was a loser, and i don't see temps too depressed this season.
                    site = home and season = 2014 and temperature < 50
                    35-38 (-0.14, 47.9%) avg line: -122.7 / 111.8 on / against: -$1,095 / +$732 ROI: -11.6% / +9.1%
                    34-39 (-0.57, 46.6%) avg line: 115.9 / -128.5 on / against: -$101 / -$248 ROI: -1.2% / -2.4%
                    37-33-3 (0.69, 52.9%) avg total: 7.8 over / under: +$90 / -$845 ROI: +1.1% / -10.4%
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                    • statnerds
                      SBR MVP
                      • 09-23-09
                      • 4047

                      #11
                      the most important thing to keep in mind is that these numbers are based on closing numbers. i can tell you that when i first started doing this 2 or 3 years ago, i hit the opener and routinely beat the closer by ~20 cents and sometimes by a half run.
                      site = home and season > 2011 and temperature < 50
                      101-110 (-0.15, 47.9%) avg line: -121.3 / 110.2 on / against: -$2,816 / +$1,806 ROI: -10.4% / +7.7%
                      91-119 (-0.51, 43.3%) avg line: 118.1 / -130.8 on / against: -$1,949 / +$1,037 ROI: -8.0% / +3.5%
                      96-108-6 (0.12, 47.1%) avg total: 7.9 over / under: -$2,095 / +$105 ROI: -9.2% / +0.4%
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                      • nash13
                        SBR MVP
                        • 01-21-14
                        • 1122

                        #12
                        Excellent job, exactly what i was talking about
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                        • Big Bear
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 11-01-11
                          • 43253

                          #13
                          Originally posted by nash13
                          1. i strongly believe that temperature has an influence to the outcome of a baseball game. how do you research that properly? do you have a website where the exact temperature over a game or at the beginning with forecast can be found?

                          2. what is your best resource for line up changes/confirmations in major sports like NBA? or else

                          thanks for any help

                          just get a weather app for your phone and enter the city the game is being played.

                          Be sure to check the direction and speed of the wind if doing a Cubs game
                          You are correct weather plays a factor.

                          Cold weather and rainy weather usually means a low scoring game.

                          Unless RA Dickey is pitching.... take the over and fade his ass anytime he pitches in rainy or misty weather. The humidity fukks up the knuckle ball.

                          Places with a dry climate such as Arizona and Colorado tend to have higher scoring games bc of the thin air and ofcourse the elevation in Denver.

                          Night games in San Diego and San Fran usually mean chilly weather and low scoring.


                          Want the biggest fukkin lock of the year?????


                          Pay attention to the weather this summer and if you see the Rockies or the Rangers playing at home in 96 degrees or hotter weather SLAM THE FUKk OUT OF THE OVER.


                          hot days at coord field usually mean 15-20 runs
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                          • Big Bear
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 11-01-11
                            • 43253

                            #14
                            Originally posted by nash13
                            I can share one. If the temperature is somewhat below 70 and we have a home underdog below 200. the over under record since 2004 has been 1204-1008. with 85 units profit. The problem here is to find accurate weather data throughout the game. maybe connect it to pitcher information.
                            however it has been not very profitable last year. but it may be something to work around. maybe taking data for wind conditions into account.
                            which was 1204-1008 ?

                            the over or the under?
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                            • evo34
                              SBR MVP
                              • 11-09-08
                              • 1032

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Big Bear

                              Pay attention to the weather this summer and if you see the Rockies or the Rangers playing at home in 96 degrees or hotter weather SLAM THE FUKk OUT OF THE OVER.


                              hot days at coord field usually mean 15-20 runs
                              You sound like a real sharp... Actual o/u record for all games since 2006 with temp. of 96 or more at Col or at Tex? 52-52.
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                              • evo34
                                SBR MVP
                                • 11-09-08
                                • 1032

                                #16
                                @nash13 You might want to check swishanalytics.com for NBA lineup news. Not sure if that info. is free or not, but they seem to be on it.
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                                • evo34
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 11-09-08
                                  • 1032

                                  #17
                                  To follow up further, the correl. of temp. to total runs scored at Coors is tiny: 0.02. In Texas, it's more significant, but still not huge: 0.09.
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                                  • smoke a bowl
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 02-09-09
                                    • 2776

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by nash13
                                    I can share one. If the temperature is somewhat below 70 and we have a home underdog below 200. the over under record since 2004 has been 1204-1008. with 85 units profit. The problem here is to find accurate weather data throughout the game. maybe connect it to pitcher information.
                                    however it has been not very profitable last year. but it may be something to work around. maybe taking data for wind conditions into account.
                                    (somewhat below 70) doesn't quite cut the mustard sir.
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                                    • HeeeHAWWWW
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 06-13-08
                                      • 5487

                                      #19
                                      How are you handling weather prediction error? That's an issue a backtest doesn't have to deal with.
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                                      • Cordoba25
                                        SBR Sharp
                                        • 11-22-14
                                        • 315

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by nash13
                                        do you have a website where the exact temperature over a game or at the beginning with forecast can be found?
                                        By far the best site is Accuweather. In the search box enter in the name of the stadium in question and click enter... then check info you're looking for either w/ hourly or minute to minute weather conditions (great for anticipating rain delays - called minutecast) at the specifc location you requested. Has everything you'll ever need.
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                                        • nash13
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 01-21-14
                                          • 1122

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by smoke a bowl
                                          (somewhat below 70) doesn't quite cut the mustard sir.
                                          Home Dogs below 180 and temperature below 70
                                          1131-1249 (-0.51, 47.5%) avg line: 120.4 / -130.7 on / against: +$10,037 / -$21,625 ROI: +4.2% / -7.0%
                                          1032-742 (0.87, 58.2%) avg line: -138.3 / 125.4 on / against: +$1,492 / -$10,827 ROI: +0.6% / -5.9%
                                          1034-1227-112 (0.05, 45.7%) avg total: 8.3 over / under: -$29,459 / +$8,058 ROI: -11.4% / +3.1%
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                                          • nash13
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 01-21-14
                                            • 1122

                                            #22
                                            the predictability increases if you take out hot summer months

                                            793-811 (-0.38, 49.4%) avg line: 118.7 / -128.8 on / against: +$12,340 / -$20,390 ROI: +7.7% / -9.9%
                                            715-467 (1.02, 60.5%) avg line: -140.0 / 127.0 on / against: +$6,852 / -$12,989 ROI: +4.1% / -10.6%
                                            702-822-74 (0.05, 46.1%) avg total: 8.3 over / under: -$19,009 / +$4,448 ROI: -10.9% / +2.5%
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                                            • Big Bear
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 11-01-11
                                              • 43253

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by nash13
                                              1. i strongly believe that temperature has an influence to the outcome of a baseball game. how do you research that properly? do you have a website where the exact temperature over a game or at the beginning with forecast can be found?

                                              2. what is your best resource for line up changes/confirmations in major sports like NBA? or else

                                              thanks for any help
                                              dailybaseballdata.com for weather

                                              right now is when weather really starts to come into play as summer is in full swing
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                                              • jjgold
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 07-20-05
                                                • 388179

                                                #24
                                                once you start thinking past stats influence games your in trouble
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                                                • RudyRuetigger
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 08-24-10
                                                  • 65084

                                                  #25
                                                  the higher the humidity, the further the ball travels

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                                                  • jjgold
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 07-20-05
                                                    • 388179

                                                    #26
                                                    guys you can find winning trends all the time if you look deep enough

                                                    I can make a case for every game tonight both sides and totals meaning showing winning trends
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                                                    • Big Bear
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 11-01-11
                                                      • 43253

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                                                      the higher the humidity, the further the ball travels

                                                      ummm no.

                                                      just the opposite.
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                                                      • RudyRuetigger
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 08-24-10
                                                        • 65084

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Big Bear
                                                        ummm no.

                                                        just the opposite.
                                                        umm no
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                                                        • Big Bear
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 11-01-11
                                                          • 43253

                                                          #29
                                                          rudy why do u think they put baseballs in a humidor at coors field?

                                                          i'll give you a clue... it's not because of the humidity in Denver.
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                                                          • RudyRuetigger
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 08-24-10
                                                            • 65084

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Big Bear
                                                            rudy why do u think they put baseballs in a humidor at coors field?

                                                            i'll give you a clue... it's not because of the humidity in Denver.
                                                            wtf are you smoking?
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                                                            • No coincidences
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 01-18-10
                                                              • 76300

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Big Bear
                                                              rudy why do u think they put baseballs in a humidor at coors field?

                                                              i'll give you a clue... it's not because of the humidity in Denver.
                                                              I am convinced that you are literally the dumbest person on the planet.
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