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  • Rudeboy
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 07-15-14
    • 5725

    #1646
    6/26

    Jelgava (LAT-V) Over 2½ -125 2u Play
    Mattersburg (Friendly) Over 2½ -150 2u Play
    Pakhtakor Tashkent (UZB-PFL) Draw +240 3u Play

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    • camelbreath$
      SBR MVP
      • 12-04-10
      • 3267

      #1647
      Originally posted by Rudeboy
      6/25

      Din Zagreb (Friendly) Over 2½ -150 2u Play -3.00
      JJK (FIN-Y) Over 2 -105 +1.00
      Bolivia (Copa America) +416 3u Play -3.00

      YTD W295-L294 +14.62u
      DAMN last time I visited this thread you were up nearly 30 units now down to +14? Eesh
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      • Rudeboy
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 07-15-14
        • 5725

        #1648
        Originally posted by camelbreath$
        DAMN last time I visited this thread you were up nearly 30 units now down to +14? Eesh
        Thats part n parcel my friend

        As long as you stay in the game and see the light at the end of the tunnel
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        • Rudeboy
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 07-15-14
          • 5725

          #1649
          6/26

          Jelgava (LAT-V) Over 2½ -125 2u Play
          Mattersburg (Friendly) Over 2½ -150 2u Play
          Pakhtakor Tashkent (UZB-PFL) Draw +240 3u Play
          Tallinna Infonet (EST) Over 2½ -115

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          • smoke a bowl
            SBR MVP
            • 02-09-09
            • 2776

            #1650
            Originally posted by Rudeboy
            6/26

            Jelgava (LAT-V) Over 2½ -125 2u Play
            Mattersburg (Friendly) Over 2½ -150 2u Play
            Pakhtakor Tashkent (UZB-PFL) Draw +240 3u Play
            Tallinna Infonet (EST) Over 2½ -115

            That's cool Rudy but what about the International competitions that we are all interested in?
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            • Rudeboy
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 07-15-14
              • 5725

              #1651
              6/26

              Jelgava (LAT-V) Over 2½ -125 2u Play -2.50
              Mattersburg (Friendly) Over 2½ -150 2u Play +2.00
              Pakhtakor Tashkent (UZB-PFL) Draw +240 3u Play -3.00
              Tallinna Infonet (EST) Over 2½ -115 +1.00

              YTD W297-L296 +12.12u
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              • Rudeboy
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 07-15-14
                • 5725

                #1652
                6/26

                Colombia (Copa America) +453 4u Play

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                • jihadvillager
                  SBR MVP
                  • 11-25-11
                  • 2134

                  #1653
                  Rudes got balls the size of grapefruits
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                  • adila1401
                    SBR MVP
                    • 11-16-11
                    • 2014

                    #1654
                    Valencia is out with injury..gonna be very tough for midfield to do anything and on top of that their strikers have been terrible Rude..BOL nonetheless!
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                    • Rudeboy
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 07-15-14
                      • 5725

                      #1655
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                      • Rudeboy
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 07-15-14
                        • 5725

                        #1656
                        6/26

                        Colombia (Copa America) +453 4u Play -4.00

                        YTD W297-L297 +8.12u
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                        • johnyjohnson
                          SBR Rookie
                          • 11-14-14
                          • 46

                          #1657
                          Originally posted by jihadvillager
                          Rudes got balls the size of grapefruits
                          rudes got airbets bro like he slipped in one of his posts would be shocked he had screenshot
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                          • leetreaper
                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                            • 10-23-10
                            • 34841

                            #1658
                            Originally posted by johnyjohnson
                            rudes got airbets bro like he slipped in one of his posts would be shocked he had screenshot
                            It was pretty obv as soon as he started to bet more than a unit, was doing well before, greed and chasing killed him.
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                            • smithah2
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 11-01-14
                              • 743

                              #1659
                              Originally posted by johnyjohnson
                              rudes got airbets bro like he slipped in one of his posts would be shocked he had screenshot
                              this is an awful sentence. structurally awful
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                              • fitguy67
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 03-13-11
                                • 5082

                                #1660
                                rude's picks are solid...if you don't have a stomach for big $-swings like me, then use common sense and just ignore the bet-size variation...i bet everything to WIN 1 measly unit (not risk for dogs, win for faves...everything to win...minimizes variance greatly) and i've done very well since i started tailing a while back...

                                for example, today 2-3, +0.1u...

                                if Ruder likes to swing a big bet-size differential, let him...it's his money...the plays are solid +$growth over time if you play everything flat is what i'm saying...variance is smaller (less $ upswing on the days, but much lower on the losing days, as well...balance out but with much lower blood pressure along the way)...

                                the big drop over the last while is mostly due to the bet-sizes magnifying a fairly modest drop...it's what happens if you wanna start playing some at 4 and 5 times others...double-edged sword and just as 30 can become 10 quickly, so it can zap to 30 and beyond in just a few-day hot spell as we've seen many times in the past...

                                so keep posting the plays, Ruder...and the bet-sizes you recommend...but just ignore all the idiots who follow along with your bet-sizes BLINDLY and then try blame you for their performance...bet-sizes are a personal thing and gotta depend on your tolerance for $-swings (always ask yourself if you can REALLY handle going "oh for..." on the day...if not, lighten up...it's your roll, nobody else's)
                                _______

                                ignore the prikks that love to show up only when there's a grave to stomp on...and keep posting your plays for the many who appreciate them a lot
                                Last edited by fitguy67; 06-26-15, 11:35 PM.
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                                • smithah2
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 11-01-14
                                  • 743

                                  #1661
                                  looking forward to tomorrow as always
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                                  • Rudeboy
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 07-15-14
                                    • 5725

                                    #1662
                                    Originally posted by fitguy67
                                    rude's picks are solid...if you don't have a stomach for big $-swings like me, then use common sense and just ignore the bet-size variation...i bet everything to WIN 1 measly unit (not risk for dogs, win for faves...everything to win...minimizes variance greatly) and i've done very well since i started tailing a while back...

                                    for example, today 2-3, +0.1u...

                                    if Ruder likes to swing a big bet-size differential, let him...it's his money...the plays are solid +$growth over time if you play everything flat is what i'm saying...variance is smaller (less $ upswing on the days, but much lower on the losing days, as well...balance out but with much lower blood pressure along the way)...

                                    the big drop over the last while is mostly due to the bet-sizes magnifying a fairly modest drop...it's what happens if you wanna start playing some at 4 and 5 times others...double-edged sword and just as 30 can become 10 quickly, so it can zap to 30 and beyond in just a few-day hot spell as we've seen many times in the past...

                                    so keep posting the plays, Ruder...and the bet-sizes you recommend...but just ignore all the idiots who follow along with your bet-sizes BLINDLY and then try blame you for their performance...bet-sizes are a personal thing and gotta depend on your tolerance for $-swings (always ask yourself if you can REALLY handle going "oh for..." on the day...if not, lighten up...it's your roll, nobody else's)
                                    _______

                                    ignore the prikks that love to show up only when there's a grave to stomp on...and keep posting your plays for the many who appreciate them a lot
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                                    • Rudeboy
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 07-15-14
                                      • 5725

                                      #1663
                                      6/27

                                      Denmark U21 (UEFA-Cham) Draw +229 4u Play
                                      Brondby (Friendly) Over 2½ -135 2u Play
                                      Brazil (Copa America) -1½ +180 3u Play

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                                      • camelbreath$
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 12-04-10
                                        • 3267

                                        #1664
                                        Originally posted by Rudeboy
                                        6/27

                                        Denmark U21 (UEFA-Cham) Draw +229 4u Play
                                        Brondby (Friendly) Over 2½ -135 2u Play
                                        Brazil (Copa America) -1½ +180 3u Play

                                        Betting Brazil to win by 2 goals... Neymar is suspended and their results in Copa America have been 2:1 over Peru, a 0:1 loss to Colombia and 2:1 win over Venezuela. That's bold! good luck
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                                        • fitguy67
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 03-13-11
                                          • 5082

                                          #1665
                                          Originally posted by Rudeboy
                                          6/27
                                          Brazil (Copa America) -1½ +180 3u Play
                                          Originally posted by camelbreath$

                                          Betting Brazil to win by 2 goals... Neymar is suspended and their results in Copa America have been 2:1 over Peru, a 0:1 loss to Colombia and 2:1 win over Venezuela. That's bold! good luck
                                          excerpt from "essential mathematics of gambling"

                                          betting "Brazil to win by 2 or more" at +180 does NOT require your belief that such result is "likely" (ie. has a probability of >50%)

                                          on the contrary, to be part of a long-term $growth program, plays you take at +180 require only that the probability of the desired result exceed 35.71% (1/decimal-price = 1/2.8)...

                                          this 35.71% figure for +180 bets is called the implied probability, and can be thought of as the winning percentage required to break-even over time if this bet were repeated countless times at identical stakes...to the extent that your actual hit-rate on the entirety of your +180 bets exceeds/falls short of the implied probability your profits/losses mount...

                                          ______________

                                          the purpose of gambling is not predicting the future or making money on today's slate of bets...

                                          it is placing bets that have "value"= have a % of cashing > % implied by the price...

                                          the better you are at doing this, over the long haul, the better you will do...

                                          _____________

                                          so as long as the concerns you raised don't lower Brazil's chances (of surprising us with a 2+ goal victory) below 35.71%, the bet is money...TBH, most "likely" not tonight...but certainly it's money over time...as the few surprise ticket-cashings will more than compensate the more-frequent unsurprising losses...it's that 80% bonus payout on those surprise wins that make the difference
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                                          • camelbreath$
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 12-04-10
                                            • 3267

                                            #1666
                                            Originally posted by fitguy67
                                            excerpt from "essential mathematics of gambling"

                                            betting "Brazil to win by 2 or more" at +180 does NOT require your belief that such result is "likely" (ie. has a probability of >50%)

                                            on the contrary, to be part of a long-term $growth program, plays you take at +180 require only that the probability of the desired result exceed 35.71% (1/decimal-price = 1/2.8)...

                                            this 35.71% figure for +180 bets is called the implied probability, and can be thought of as the winning percentage required to break-even over time if this bet were repeated countless times at identical stakes...to the extent that your actual hit-rate on the entirety of your +180 bets exceeds/falls short of the implied probability your profits/losses mount...

                                            ______________

                                            the purpose of gambling is not predicting the future or making money on today's slate of bets...

                                            it is placing bets that have "value"= have a % of cashing > % implied by the price...

                                            the better you are at doing this, over the long haul, the better you will do...

                                            _____________

                                            so as long as the concerns you raised don't lower Brazil's chances (of surprising us with a 2+ goal victory) below 35.71%, the bet is money...TBH, most "likely" not tonight...but certainly it's money over time...as the few surprise ticket-cashings will more than compensate the more-frequent unsurprising losses...it's that 80% bonus payout on those surprise wins that make the difference
                                            But I'm on Brazil -1 +136 so a 1 goal win and I recollect my original wager. So -1.5 at +180 is lacking your perceived value
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                                            • camelbreath$
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 12-04-10
                                              • 3267

                                              #1667
                                              Originally posted by fitguy67
                                              ______________

                                              the purpose of gambling is not predicting the future or making money on today's slate of bets...

                                              it is placing bets that have "value"= have a % of cashing > % implied by the price...

                                              the better you are at doing this, over the long haul, the better you will do...

                                              _____________
                                              The purpose of gambling in this context is wagering monetary funds on an uncertain outcome. So it is exactly that... predicting the future of an event.
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                                              • fitguy67
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 03-13-11
                                                • 5082

                                                #1668
                                                Originally posted by camelbreath$
                                                But I'm on Brazil -1 +136 so a 1 goal win and I recollect my original wager. So -1.5 at +180 is lacking your perceived value
                                                yeah, I noticed that when i was placing it, -1 was the going rate, and i had to hit the pull-down box to get the -1.5 with the higher payout...

                                                right now it's +113/+185 on the -1/-1.5...so Rude's play seems adequately compensated for the decreased likelihood of hitting...

                                                but if you found +136 on the -1, you clearly got extra value in the form of having the "1-goal-win insurance policy " thrown into the ticket with a relatively small sacrifice in payout
                                                ______
                                                ...a big day for daBoys from Brazil!
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                                                • fitguy67
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 03-13-11
                                                  • 5082

                                                  #1669
                                                  Originally posted by camelbreath$
                                                  The purpose of gambling in this context is wagering monetary funds on an uncertain outcome. So it is exactly that... predicting the future of an event.
                                                  agreed...it's clear we're on the same page that it's in the guaging of the probabilities of said future/uncertain events (and being able to discern good or bad "deals" on tickets based on them)...that's the key to success...

                                                  we are definitely perceiving/guaging/"predicting" the probabilities of the events stamped into the tickets we're considering

                                                  to be a smart gambler =
                                                  to be a smart shopper of tickets =
                                                  to insist on being adequately compensated payout-wise for the UN-likelihood of each purchased-ticket's cashing
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                                                  • fitguy67
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 03-13-11
                                                    • 5082

                                                    #1670
                                                    more important issue, camel...who is that marvellous example to humanity in your avatar?
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                                                    • leetreaper
                                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                      • 10-23-10
                                                      • 34841

                                                      #1671
                                                      Originally posted by fitguy67
                                                      more important issue, camel...who is that marvellous example to humanity in your avatar?
                                                      You don't know who that is???
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                                                      • camelbreath$
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 12-04-10
                                                        • 3267

                                                        #1672
                                                        Originally posted by fitguy67
                                                        more important issue, camel...who is that marvellous example to humanity in your avatar?
                                                        I'm sure you know who it is... the one and only Kate Upton. If you don't, google and enjoy your afternoon.

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                                                        • fitguy67
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 03-13-11
                                                          • 5082

                                                          #1673
                                                          Originally posted by leetreaper
                                                          You don't know who that is???
                                                          no, not by name...looks very familiar...

                                                          my guess is it's a porn-star/model/actress (there once was a difference...just as there once were things lawyers,governments, etc. wouldn't do, lol)

                                                          ahhh...that's it: jason verlander's steady squeeze
                                                          Last edited by fitguy67; 06-27-15, 04:13 PM.
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                                                          • Rudeboy
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 07-15-14
                                                            • 5725

                                                            #1674
                                                            6/11

                                                            Soccer Copa America Futures Winner 2015 - Brazil +400 2u Play -2.00

                                                            6/27


                                                            Denmark U21 (UEFA-Cham) Draw +229 4u Play -4.00
                                                            Brondby (Friendly) Over 2½ -135 2u Play -2.70
                                                            Brazil (Copa America) -1½ +180 3u Play -3.00

                                                            YTD W297-L301 -3.58u


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                                                            • smithah2
                                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                                              • 11-01-14
                                                              • 743

                                                              #1675
                                                              All part of the game. Still always looking forward to your picks! Cheers brother
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                                                              • Rudeboy
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 07-15-14
                                                                • 5725

                                                                #1676
                                                                Taking a break and starting next season on July 15th GL men
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                                                                • smithah2
                                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                                  • 11-01-14
                                                                  • 743

                                                                  #1677
                                                                  Take it easy cheers
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                                                                  • Rudeboy
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 07-15-14
                                                                    • 5725

                                                                    #1678
                                                                    6/28

                                                                    Neman Grodno Over 2½ +125
                                                                    LDU Quito (ECU) +102

                                                                    All plays 2u unless I specify otherwise.
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                                                                    • Rudeboy
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 07-15-14
                                                                      • 5725

                                                                      #1679
                                                                      6/28

                                                                      Neman Grodno Over 2½ +125 +2.50
                                                                      LDU Quito (ECU) +102 +2.04

                                                                      YTD W299-L301 +0.96u

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                                                                      • jihadvillager
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 11-25-11
                                                                        • 2134

                                                                        #1680
                                                                        Long overdue! Nice! Can't keep a good man dowb
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